2008/2/4, Basil Chupin :

Kermit Mei wrote:

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Hello! I'm using openSuse 10.3 Linux in VirtualBox,and I just installed the text mode. I use the command "shutdown now" to turn off the machine. But the result is as the following:

linux-Kermit:~# shutdown now The system message from root (tty1)(Mon Feb ......<the time> ): INIT: Switching to runlevel: 1 <snip>

Why the system goes to runlevel:1,but not shutdown? Is "shutdown now" different from "init 1"?

Now I ususlly use "init 0" to turn off the machine,is it right or wrong?

Thank you!

I thought the command was

shutdown -t <period-in-seconds> -h (h for halt-on-shutdown) now

that is

shutdown -t 10 -h now

(which is what I use).

Ciao.

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On Monday 04 February 2008 13:36:15 Basil Chupin wrote:

I thought the command was

shutdown -t <period-in-seconds> -h (h for halt-on-shutdown) now

that is

shutdown -t 10 -h now

(which is what I use).

poweroff is the command I use. It's shorter :) Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

peter wrote:

Anders Johansson schrieb:

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poweroff is the command I use. It's shorter :)

'init 6' is even shorter than 'poweroff'. But I think that 'halt' is the shortest at all. ;)

apples and oranges. init 6 = reboot init 0 = halt halt != reboot Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2008-02-04 at 20:19 +0100, peter wrote:

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poweroff is the command I use. It's shorter :)

'init 6' is even shorter than 'poweroff'. But I think that 'halt' is the shortest at all. ;)

[ctrl][alt][supr] is even shorter :-P You can define that combination to be reboot or halt. No need to be logged in. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHp2lKtTMYHG2NR9URAuggAJ44rMy+m0/65lgo2CGh9FysU3AkzACgktp6 K4bJvQ7YGdshvSMpkaCYOvM= =uf2x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2008-02-04 at 17:01 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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[ctrl][alt][supr] is even shorter :-P

You can define that combination to be reboot or halt. No need to be logged in.

On my machine with ACPI in use I just hit the power button once. Can't get any shorter then that. :-)

On mine that hybernates the machine, because I changed the definition. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHp5FLtTMYHG2NR9URAiwRAJ9S3aIa31EqT/W81UQ3h8IoEXBdcACfT2TS zyj6U5RgSOlpfP0uMqia9pE= =t9TG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-02-05 at 09:33 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

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On my machine with ACPI in use I just hit the power button once. Can't get any shorter then that. :-)

And then you do that to someone else's machine, and f*CK up their filesystems with massive corruption.

Do that on a commercial worksite, and you're liable to find yourself looking for a new job.

I would fire instead the administrator that set up the bios of that computer, allowing it to power of instantly, instead of waiting for 4 seconds. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHsGnCtTMYHG2NR9URAnUWAJsE6yfoFmMuQB1pvxbIqPutuWKX1wCdGoIk fQFuq00GXbUnBYdBjZUBhFw= =spgS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2008-02-11 at 14:37 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

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On my machine with ACPI in use I just hit the power button once. Can't get any shorter then that. :-)

And then you do that to someone else's machine, and f*CK up their filesystems with massive corruption.

Do that on a commercial worksite, and you're liable to find yourself looking for a new job.

I would fire instead the administrator that set up the bios of that computer, allowing it to power of instantly, instead of waiting for 4 seconds.

Even with 4 seconds, things can be left hanging

That's not the point. The point is that by touching once the power off button you are generating an acpi event which is interpreted by the kernel as a signal that the user wants to power off orderly. Such a touch must not power off instantly any PC. To forcelly poweroff you have to press the button and keep it pressed for 4 seconds, or pull the cable. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHsXWctTMYHG2NR9URArZ3AJ42tTc0uT/RLjiP85MJXHtkh2ApfgCeIYjb vkKYyADFDHQYqeUFPfl7PZo= =BySy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-02-12 at 10:42 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

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wants to power off orderly. Such a touch must not power off instantly any PC. To forcelly poweroff you have to press the button and keep it pressed for 4 seconds, or pull the cable.

Oh, yeah, i see what you mean.\

It's been so long since I've had or worked on any machine which did NOT require long push down to turn off power that I had completely forgot about the difference.

:-) I've worked with some that required to press at least two buttons to power of or reset, as a precaution. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHslYMtTMYHG2NR9URArnvAJ0YiYCa5ojjZ0lh+sBNHqXYAzKCeQCeKlwv 0ZjXAeNP0FyIYF6OVaIOpPw= =vyQp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Monday 2008-02-04 at 20:19 +0100, peter wrote:

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poweroff is the command I use. It's shorter :)

'init 6' is even shorter than 'poweroff'. But I think that 'halt' is the shortest at all. ;)

[ctrl][alt][supr] is even shorter :-P

You can define that combination to be reboot or halt. No need to be logged in.

Which means no security. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Thursday 2008-02-07 at 19:58 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

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[ctrl][alt][supr] is even shorter :-P

You can define that combination to be reboot or halt. No need to be logged in.

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Which means no security.

It is implemented by an armed guard standing beside the computer :-P

Common, once someone has physical access to the computer, you depend on that person training and good will.

If that's an issue, dissable ctrl.alt.supr.

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

Even that won't get around popping the 10.3 dvd in, pulling the plug and entering /bin/bash as a grub option... Unless the server lives in a locked vault, physical security all boils down to trust and knowledge of the people who have access. My server is _completely_ secure from a physical sense. It's in a law office. Finding the on button is a technical challenge in that environment.... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin wrote:

Kermit Mei wrote:

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Hello! I'm using openSuse 10.3 Linux in VirtualBox,and I just installed the text mode. I use the command "shutdown now" to turn off the machine. But the result is as the following:

linux-Kermit:~# shutdown now The system message from root (tty1)(Mon Feb ......<the time> ): INIT: Switching to runlevel: 1 <snip>

Why the system goes to runlevel:1,but not shutdown? Is "shutdown now" different from "init 1"?

Now I ususlly use "init 0" to turn off the machine,is it right or wrong?

Thank you!

I thought the command was

shutdown -t <period-in-seconds> -h (h for halt-on-shutdown) now

that is

shutdown -t 10 -h now

-t 10 and now are contradictory "now" is an alias for "-t 0"

(which is what I use).

Ciao.

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Kermit Mei wrote:

jim barnes wrote:

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On Monday 04 February 2008 05:23:25 am Kermit Mei wrote:

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Hello! I'm using openSuse 10.3 Linux in VirtualBox,and I just installed the text mode. I use the command "shutdown now" to turn off the machine. But the result is as the following:

linux-Kermit:~# shutdown now The system message from root (tty1)(Mon Feb ......<the time> ): INIT: Switching to runlevel: 1 <snip>

Why the system goes to runlevel:1,but not shutdown? Is "shutdown now" different from "init 1"?

Now I ususlly use "init 0" to turn off the machine,is it right or wrong?

Thank you!

From man shutdown...

"and runlevel 1 is used to put to system into a state where administrative tasks can be performed; this is the default if neither the -h or -r flag is given to shutdown."

Thanks for all.With your help,I have understood.

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