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Oliver Kullmann

31 Oct 2010 31 Oct '10

19:40

Hello, here we have an open WLAN ("otto"), and everybody can connect to it (Linux, Windows, Mac), only I can't: It again and again asks for the secrets of the network: there are none, so the menu-point "none" is chosen, but it asks again ... and after some time it then gives up.

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iwlist eth1 scan eth1 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:1B:53:A8:FF:50 ESSID:"eduroam" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) Quality:5/5 Signal level:-52 dBm Noise level:-92 dBm IE: WPA Version 1 Group Cipher : WEP-104 Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x Encryption key:on Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s 11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s Cell 02 - Address: 00:1B:53:A8:FF:51 ESSID:"otto" Mode:Managed Frequency=2.412 GHz (Channel 1) Quality:5/5 Signal level:-51 dBm Noise level:-92 dBm Encryption key:off Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s 11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s

The first network in the list is encrypted, but it is the second which is supported by the host organisation, which is open, and to which I can't connect. (Actually, also for the first network I have the secrets, but I can't connect.) I'm using KNetwork manager. (Currently I'm using the wired connection.) How can I analyse the situation? How can I get KNetworkManager to tell me what happens?? Or, if this is "impossible" --- what to do??? Thanks for any help! Oliver -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Javier Llorente

31 Oct 31 Oct

22:49

On Domingo, 31 de Octubre de 2010 20:40:56 Oliver Kullmann escribió: [...]

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How can I analyse the situation? How can I get KNetworkManager to tell me what happens?? Or, if this is "impossible" --- what to do???

Check /var/log/NetworkManager What wireless network adapter do you have? (hwinfo --wlan) Greetings, -- Javier Llorente

Oliver Kullmann

1 Nov 1 Nov

23:43

Here one can see that connection fails:

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tail -20 /var/log/NetworkManager Nov 1 23:31:22 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <WARN> check_one_route(): (eth0) error -34 returned from rtnl_route_del(): Sucess#012 Nov 1 23:31:22 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <debug> [1288654282.202977] run_netconfig(): Spawning '/sbin/netconfig modify --service NetworkManager' Nov 1 23:31:22 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <debug> [1288654282.229267] write_to_netconfig(): Writing to netconfig: INTERFACE='eth0'#012 Nov 1 23:31:22 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Clearing nscd hosts cache. Nov 1 23:31:22 linux-ubd8 nm-dispatcher.action: Script '/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/autofs' exited with error status 1. Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1) starting connection 'notto' Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): device state change: 3 -> 4 (reason 0) Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled... Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started... Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled... Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete. Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting... Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): device state change: 4 -> 5 (reason 0) Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1/wireless): connection 'notto' requires no security. No secrets needed. Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Config: added 'ssid' value 'otto' Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1' Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'NONE' Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete. Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Config: set interface ap_scan to 1 Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): supplicant connection state: disconnected -> scanning root-0:kullmann> tail -20 /var/log/NetworkManager Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1/wireless): connection 'notto' requires no security. No secrets needed. Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Config: added 'ssid' value 'otto' Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1' Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'NONE' Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete. Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Config: set interface ap_scan to 1 Nov 1 23:31:42 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): supplicant connection state: disconnected -> scanning Nov 1 23:31:47 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): supplicant connection state: scanning -> associating Nov 1 23:31:52 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): supplicant connection state: associating -> disconnected Nov 1 23:31:52 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): supplicant connection state: disconnected -> scanning Nov 1 23:31:58 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): supplicant connection state: scanning -> associating Nov 1 23:32:03 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): supplicant connection state: associating -> disconnected Nov 1 23:32:03 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): supplicant connection state: disconnected -> scanning Nov 1 23:32:08 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1/wireless): association took too long, failing activation. Nov 1 23:32:08 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): device state change: 5 -> 9 (reason 11) Nov 1 23:32:08 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1) failed for access point (otto) Nov 1 23:32:08 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Marking connection 'notto' invalid. Nov 1 23:32:08 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> Activation (eth1) failed. Nov 1 23:32:08 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): device state change: 9 -> 3 (reason 0) Nov 1 23:32:08 linux-ubd8 NetworkManager: <info> (eth1): deactivating device (reason: 0).

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:49:19PM +0100, Javier Llorente wrote:

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On Domingo, 31 de Octubre de 2010 20:40:56 Oliver Kullmann escribió:

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How can I analyse the situation? How can I get KNetworkManager to tell me what happens?? Or, if this is "impossible" --- what to do???

Check /var/log/NetworkManager

What wireless network adapter do you have? (hwinfo --wlan)

And here is the adapter:

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hwinfo --wlan 17: PCI 400.0: 0282 WLAN controller [Created at pci.318] Unique ID: JNkJ.reAAs+k0MA5 Parent ID: qTvu.X4o5B4kNFk8 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:04:00.0 SysFS BusID: 0000:04:00.0 Hardware Class: network Model: "Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-Card" Vendor: pci 0x14e4 "Broadcom" Device: pci 0x4315 "BCM4312 802.11b/g" SubVendor: pci 0x1028 "Dell" SubDevice: pci 0x000c "Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-Card" Revision: 0x01 Driver: "wl" Driver Modules: "wl" Device File: eth1 Features: WLAN Memory Range: 0xf0200000-0xf0203fff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 17 (no events) HW Address: 70:f1:a1:ff:81:e6 Link detected: yes WLAN channels: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 WLAN frequencies: 2.412 2.417 2.422 2.427 2.432 2.437 2.442 2.447 2.452 2.457 2.462 2.467 2.472 WLAN bitrates: 1 2 5.5 6 9 11 12 18 24 36 48 54 WLAN encryption modes: WEP40 WEP104 WEP256 WEP128 TKIP CCMP WLAN authentication modes: open sharedkey wpa-psk wpa-eap Module Alias: "pci:v000014E4d00004315sv00001028sd0000000Cbc02sc80i00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: ssb is not active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe ssb" Driver Info #1: Driver Status: wl is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe wl" Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #7 (PCI bridge)

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Greetings, -- Javier Llorente

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Sven Burmeister

09:55

Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2010, 20:40:56 schrieb Oliver Kullmann:

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eth1 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:1B:53:A8:FF:50 ESSID:"eduroam"

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The first network in the list is encrypted, but it is the second which is supported by the host organisation, which is open, and to which I can't connect. (Actually, also for the first network I have the secrets, but I can't connect.)

I guess you ran into: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209673 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226140 Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Oliver Kullmann

13:52

On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 10:55:09AM +0100, Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2010, 20:40:56 schrieb Oliver Kullmann:

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eth1 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:1B:53:A8:FF:50 ESSID:"eduroam"

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The first network in the list is encrypted, but it is the second which is supported by the host organisation, which is open, and to which I can't connect. (Actually, also for the first network I have the secrets, but I can't connect.)

I guess you ran into: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209673 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226140

Regarding the first bug (eduroam) I don't know, but regarding the second one, "connecting to unsecured networks", it doesn't look like that: The only configuration files I found are in .kde4/share/config, and there we have "networkmanagement_configshellrc" and "networkmanagementrc". The first file seems irrelevant, while in the second one we only have entries like [Connection_{09e1690b-519f-4000-8fa0-569c3185002a}] Name=otto Type=802-11-wireless (that's the entry for the network under consideration), and nothing else (not all that stuff mentioned in the second bug report above). Also, if there would be an error like that, (mis)using older configuration data, then by creating a new network connection the problem should be solved, however it isn't. The only additional fact I could find out about the (non-)connection is that the basic failure seems to be that no IP-address is obtained from the network (though DHCP is specified). Oliver -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Oliver Kullmann

14:31

On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 01:52:16PM +0000, Oliver Kullmann wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 10:55:09AM +0100, Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2010, 20:40:56 schrieb Oliver Kullmann:

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eth1 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:1B:53:A8:FF:50 ESSID:"eduroam"

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The first network in the list is encrypted, but it is the second which is supported by the host organisation, which is open, and to which I can't connect. (Actually, also for the first network I have the secrets, but I can't connect.)

I guess you ran into: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209673 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226140

Okay, now I try to connect to eduroam (which worked from several places in the UK, but there using WPA2). I get

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iwlist eth1 scan eth1 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:1B:53:A8:FF:50 ESSID:"eduroam" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) Quality:5/5 Signal level:-48 dBm Noise level:-92 dBm IE: WPA Version 1 Group Cipher : WEP-104 Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x Encryption key:on Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s 11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s

Unfortunately (and "as usual", I would like to add), different people use different notations, and they don't care about a translation. So above we find "IE: WPA Version 1". I don't know what "IE" means, but lets assume it translates into the menu point "Security" in the KNetworkManager. Then there I find None LEAP Dynamic WEP WPA/WPA2 Personal WPA/WPA2 Enterprise What is the connection? And then above we find "WEP-104" and "TKIP" which isn't found anywhere in any of the various menus when you try the different possibilities?? Finally, apparently it can be found out automatically what kind of connection we have --- why does that network-manager then ask me ????? Apparently other network-manager do exactly that, and thus you can't also ask other people what they entered --- since apparently nobody enters anything anywhere, but things just work (on windows, mac, and other Linux'). Hope somebody can shed some light on these mysteries (even better, if in the future that network-manager would gain some intelligence). Frustrated Oliver -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

michael getachew

23:28

hey there i'm connected to wireless network(wpa2 ) and i've connected to multiple types of wireless networks without an issue. my suggestion is to first try connecting via yast network settings(choose the traditional method with ifup option instead of network manager). at least that's how i got mine working at first. network manager should work too it's just that in the past i have run into situations where it wouldn't work but ifup would. --- On Mon, 11/1/10, Oliver Kullmann wrote:

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From: Oliver Kullmann Subject: Re: [opensuse] can't connect to open WLAN (everybody else can) To: "Sven Burmeister" Cc: opensuse@opensuse.org Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 9:31 AM On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 01:52:16PM +0000, Oliver Kullmann wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 10:55:09AM +0100, Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2010, 20:40:56 schrieb Oliver Kullmann:

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eth1 Scan completed :

Cell 01 - Address: 00:1B:53:A8:FF:50

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ESSID:"eduroam"

...
The first network in the list is encrypted, but it is the second which is supported by the host organisation, which is open, and to which I can't connect. (Actually, also for the first network I have the secrets, but I can't connect.)

I guess you ran into: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209673 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226140

Okay, now I try to connect to eduroam (which worked from several places in the UK, but there using WPA2). I get

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iwlist eth1 scan eth1 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:1B:53:A8:FF:50 ESSID:"eduroam" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) Quality:5/5 Signal level:-48 dBm Noise level:-92 dBm IE: WPA Version 1 Group Cipher : WEP-104 Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x Encryption key:on Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s 11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s

Unfortunately (and "as usual", I would like to add), different people use different notations, and they don't care about a translation. So above we find "IE: WPA Version 1". I don't know what "IE" means, but lets assume it translates into the menu point "Security" in the KNetworkManager. Then there I find

None LEAP Dynamic WEP WPA/WPA2 Personal WPA/WPA2 Enterprise

What is the connection? And then above we find "WEP-104" and "TKIP" which isn't found anywhere in any of the various menus when you try the different possibilities??

Finally, apparently it can be found out automatically what kind of connection we have --- why does that network-manager then ask me ?????

Apparently other network-manager do exactly that, and thus you can't also ask other people what they entered --- since apparently nobody enters anything anywhere, but things just work (on windows, mac, and other Linux').

Hope somebody can shed some light on these mysteries (even better, if in the future that network-manager would gain some intelligence).

Frustrated Oliver

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Oliver Kullmann

4 Nov 4 Nov

13:49

Can I change temporarily to ifup (in case I have problems), and then on going back to NetworkManager, nothing changed there? Thanks Oliver On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 04:28:39PM -0700, michael getachew wrote:

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hey there i'm connected to wireless network(wpa2 ) and i've connected to multiple types of wireless networks without an issue. my suggestion is to first try connecting via yast network settings(choose the traditional method with ifup option instead of network manager). at least that's how i got mine working at first. network manager should work too it's just that in the past i have run into situations where it wouldn't work but ifup would.

--- On Mon, 11/1/10, Oliver Kullmann wrote:

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From: Oliver Kullmann Subject: Re: [opensuse] can't connect to open WLAN (everybody else can) To: "Sven Burmeister" Cc: opensuse@opensuse.org Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 9:31 AM On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 01:52:16PM +0000, Oliver Kullmann wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 10:55:09AM +0100, Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2010, 20:40:56 schrieb Oliver Kullmann:

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eth1 Scan completed :

Cell 01 - Address: 00:1B:53:A8:FF:50

...
ESSID:"eduroam"

...
The first network in the list is encrypted, but it is the second which is supported by the host organisation, which is open, and to which I can't connect. (Actually, also for the first network I have the secrets, but I can't connect.)

I guess you ran into: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209673 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226140

Okay, now I try to connect to eduroam (which worked from several places in the UK, but there using WPA2). I get

...
iwlist eth1 scan eth1 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:1B:53:A8:FF:50 ESSID:"eduroam" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) Quality:5/5 Signal level:-48 dBm Noise level:-92 dBm IE: WPA Version 1 Group Cipher : WEP-104 Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x Encryption key:on Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s 11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s

Unfortunately (and "as usual", I would like to add), different people use different notations, and they don't care about a translation. So above we find "IE: WPA Version 1". I don't know what "IE" means, but lets assume it translates into the menu point "Security" in the KNetworkManager. Then there I find

None LEAP Dynamic WEP WPA/WPA2 Personal WPA/WPA2 Enterprise

What is the connection? And then above we find "WEP-104" and "TKIP" which isn't found anywhere in any of the various menus when you try the different possibilities??

Finally, apparently it can be found out automatically what kind of connection we have --- why does that network-manager then ask me ?????

Apparently other network-manager do exactly that, and thus you can't also ask other people what they entered --- since apparently nobody enters anything anywhere, but things just work (on windows, mac, and other Linux').

Hope somebody can shed some light on these mysteries (even better, if in the future that network-manager would gain some intelligence).

Frustrated Oliver

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