--- On Fri, 2/26/10, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

Charles Obler [02-26-10 18:22]:

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My activity bars no longer function, and the "show dashboard" widget on the taskbar panel does nothing. I have tried removing almost all of my activities -- everything but the original "desktop activity" -- and adding them back. Still the activity bars are non-functional.

I have an activity-bar panel, activity bars in the Folders, and an activity bar in the Desktop window. All have stopped functioning. I can click on them and the slider moves, but no activity switch occurs.

Possibly, <right-click> on desktop and select "Desktop Activity Settings" and select "Activity"(Cashew) and Type of Desktop or Folder View.

Maybe....

That didn't fix it, but it led me to something that did. Somehow I ended up at Personal Settings > Multiple Desktops. I unselected "Different activity for each desktop", and everything freed up. I see I still have a lot to learn about this DE. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Will Stephenson [03-01-10 12:14]:

This Activity stuff is still very new and the KDE project are learning as they go.

From what I gathered last week at the Plasma meeting we hosted, in KDE 4.5 Activities and virtual desktops will be combined, so changing activity also controls the visible windows, so settings like 'Different activity for each desktop will go away. I expect to see some blogs on planetkde.org in the near future explaining the plan.

Thankyou much, Will. Your posts today (cumulative) have help put light where there has been darkness or very little light :^) "Linux/Live *is* a learning process" tm! -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 01 March 2010 09:12:56 am Will Stephenson wrote:

On Saturday 27 February 2010 01:18:49 Charles Obler wrote:

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That didn't fix it, but it led me to something that did. Somehow I ended up at Personal Settings > Multiple Desktops. I unselected "Different activity for each desktop", and everything freed up. I see I still have a lot to learn about this DE.

This Activity stuff is still very new and the KDE project are learning as they go.

From what I gathered last week at the Plasma meeting we hosted, in KDE 4.5 Activities and virtual desktops will be combined, so changing activity also controls the visible windows, so settings like 'Different activity for each desktop will go away. I expect to see some blogs on planetkde.org in the near future explaining the plan.

Will

So in spite of the fact that activities have been an Epic Failure from day one, they are going to continue with them instead of backing them out or providing a way to turn them off all together? Another My way or the Highway fix? Activities don't work reliably. They NEVER have. Virtual desktops have always worked reliable. Since the Pleistocene! Do NOT turn over what works to the same people who can not make activities work! -- __________________________________________________________ Somebody stoled my tag line, so now I have this rental... JSA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 3/3/2010 12:39 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* jsa [03-03-10 14:06]:

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So in spite of the fact that activities have been an Epic Failure from day one, they are going to continue with them instead of backing them out or providing a way to turn them off all together? Another My way or the Highway fix?

Activities don't work reliably. They NEVER have.

Virtual desktops have always worked reliable. Since the Pleistocene!

Do NOT turn over what works to the same people who can not make activities work!

Ah, what one can accomplish with a "positive attitude".

You have a contribution?

Ah, can't defeat the argument, so attack the messenger, eh Patrick? You can watch the sorry state of Activities here direct from the KDE Americas conference 2010. Pretty pathetic. She couldn't make it work. She couldn't even explain it. http://www.youtube.com/user/kdepromo#p/u/8/5EaPD6L1fNs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 03 Mar 2010 21:47:48 Tejas Guruswamy wrote:

On 03/03/10 21:24, John Andersen wrote:

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On 3/3/2010 12:39 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* jsa [03-03-10 14:06]:

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So in spite of the fact that activities have been an Epic Failure from day one, they are going to continue with them instead of backing them out or providing a way to turn them off all together? Another My way or the Highway fix?

Activities don't work reliably. They NEVER have.

Virtual desktops have always worked reliable. Since the Pleistocene!

Do NOT turn over what works to the same people who can not make activities work!

Ah, what one can accomplish with a "positive attitude".

You have a contribution?

Ah, can't defeat the argument, so attack the messenger, eh Patrick?

You can watch the sorry state of Activities here direct from the KDE Americas conference 2010. Pretty pathetic. She couldn't make it work. She couldn't even explain it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/kdepromo#p/u/8/5EaPD6L1fNs

What have we done for the troll brigade to descend on the openSUSE lists this week?

FWIW activities have enabled me to improve my workflow tremendously. They work just fine (with the minor exception of excessive use of the ZUI, which will be fixed by 4.5) and have done since 4.2. For every shouting troll there are many satisfied users staying quiet, and I hope the developers don't give up just because of nonsense like this. Besides if you don't like the features, don't use them. This hate just makes you look ridiculous.

Regards, Tejas You know what ..!

One of the things that never ceases to amaze me on this list is the ease with which certain people resort to accusing others of being trolls just because they dont agree with the others ideas / ideals , This is to say the least Childish and at best immature so get the message grow up quit with the childish name calling and listen then when you can make sensible argument speak till then STFU .. This means anyone with a tendency to use the Troll accusation as an excuse Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 06:51 up 39 days 21:34, 3 users, load average: 0.11, 0.12, 0.09