Re: [opensuse] Panel bar problem in 11.1 install
Jim Sabatke pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
OK, I don't see any way of selecting KDE3 in the user maintenance. Do I need to load other packages besides KDE3 to make it available or am I just missing an obvious ( or not so obvious ) place to set the window manager?
TIA,
Jim
Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
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I'm running KDE4
TIA,
Jim
Use KDE3 until openSUSE 11.2 us released.
Please keep replies to the list only! Which openSUSE version? It won't be available in 11.2 so you need to install 11.1. When you get to the screen to select KDE or GNOME select other (I think) and select it there. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Oops, sorry. I usually remember to "Reply To All", then delete the user and keep the list reply. I have to see if there is a "Reply to List" add-in available. Jim Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Jim Sabatke pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
OK, I don't see any way of selecting KDE3 in the user maintenance. Do I need to load other packages besides KDE3 to make it available or am I just missing an obvious ( or not so obvious ) place to set the window manager?
TIA,
Jim
Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
<snip>
I'm running KDE4
TIA,
Jim
Use KDE3 until openSUSE 11.2 us released.
Please keep replies to the list only!
Which openSUSE version? It won't be available in 11.2 so you need to install 11.1. When you get to the screen to select KDE or GNOME select other (I think) and select it there.
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Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Jim Sabatke pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
OK, I don't see any way of selecting KDE3 in the user maintenance. Do I need to load other packages besides KDE3 to make it available or am I just missing an obvious ( or not so obvious ) place to set the window manager?
TIA,
Jim
Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
<snip>
I'm running KDE4
TIA,
Jim
Use KDE3 until openSUSE 11.2 us released.
Please keep replies to the list only!
Which openSUSE version? It won't be available in 11.2 so you need to install 11.1. When you get to the screen to select KDE or GNOME select other (I think) and select it there.
Uh, the SuSE version is in the subject line. I have no clue where the screen is that allows selection of the window manager. I have KDE3, KDE4 and gnome loaded on my home computer and see no way to select one; it certainly isn't on the login screen and I don't see it anywhere in the user setup YaST utility. I am trying to fix a friend's computer. He is experiencing severe slowness that I haven't been able to have time to go over and take a look at the system monitor, but I suspect it is the window manager. He is incapable of doing a login with help over the phone, so I need to make this as simple as possible. I know I could do this on 10.2 Thanks, Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 04 October 2009 08:01:29 pm Jim Sabatke wrote:
have no clue where the screen is that allows selection of the window manager. I have KDE3, KDE4 and gnome loaded on my home computer and see no way to select one; it certainly isn't on the login screen
when i was running 11.1, i could select from the login screen which windows manager to use--only if they were properly installed, of course. don't have 11.1 running right now so can't provide a screenshot, but there's a popup menu on the left side of the screen, a little below the middle, which defaults to the last used windows manager, but allows you to choose from all the others available on the system. if that isn't the case in your installation, are you sure the additional WMs are installed, not just a couple libraries to support some program? -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
phanisvara das wrote:
On Sunday 04 October 2009 08:01:29 pm Jim Sabatke wrote:
have no clue where the screen is that allows selection of the window manager. I have KDE3, KDE4 and gnome loaded on my home computer and see no way to select one; it certainly isn't on the login screen
when i was running 11.1, i could select from the login screen which windows manager to use--only if they were properly installed, of course. don't have 11.1 running right now so can't provide a screenshot, but there's a popup menu on the left side of the screen, a little below the middle, which defaults to the last used windows manager, but allows you to choose from all the others available on the system. if that isn't the case in your installation, are you sure the additional WMs are installed, not just a couple libraries to support some program?
I did install KDE3. Does anything else have to be installed? Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 05 October 2009 03:58:08 am Jim Sabatke wrote:
I did install KDE3. Does anything else have to be installed?
what do you mean, you did install KDE3? there's a lot different KDE3 stuff in the KDE3 repo. if i remember correctly, yast2 in openSUSE 11.1 can sort packages in "patterns." one of them is called "desktop environment" or "windows managers." among different WMs there's KDE3 to choose from. you'll need most of the packages that show up in this list. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 04 October 2009 05:28:08 pm Jim Sabatke wrote:
phanisvara das wrote:
On Sunday 04 October 2009 08:01:29 pm Jim Sabatke wrote:
have no clue where the screen is that allows selection of the window manager. I have KDE3, KDE4 and gnome loaded on my home computer and see no way to select one; it certainly isn't on the login screen
when i was running 11.1, i could select from the login screen which windows manager to use--only if they were properly installed, of course. don't have 11.1 running right now so can't provide a screenshot, but there's a popup menu on the left side of the screen, a little below the middle, which defaults to the last used windows manager, but allows you to choose from all the others available on the system. if that isn't the case in your installation, are you sure the additional WMs are installed, not just a couple libraries to support some program?
I did install KDE3. Does anything else have to be installed?
Jim
Jim, I think you are being bitten by the "which kdm is the right kdm?" problem. What is the output of: which kdm If the answer is "/opt/kde3/bin/kdm" then you should be fine. If it is something else, then you need to visit the sysconfig editor in yast. I haven't had this problem with suse, but I did have this problem with arch. Basically if you default to the kde4 kdm to start, then it will not show you anything about your kde3 install, but if you default to your kde3 kdm it will show both kde3 and kde4. (I may not be using the right terminology, but you get the drift) Start yast sysconfig editor and look at Desktop -> Display manager -> DISPLAYMANAGER and make sure it is set to 'kdm3' without quotes. Then look at Desktop -> Window manager -> DEFAULT_WM and make sure it is set to 'startkde3' without quotes. Then when you restart the desktop (rckdm, or drop to runlevel3 then back to rl5 or reboot) you should be OK. I guess since you apparently had kde4 first, it is still using the kde4 DM and WM defaults which apparently will not show kde3. Like I said, I haven't had these problems with suse, but with Archlinux, when I upgraded to kde4 there, I did have this happen. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
phanisvara das wrote:
On Sunday 04 October 2009 08:01:29 pm Jim Sabatke wrote:
have no clue where the screen is that allows selection of the window manager. I have KDE3, KDE4 and gnome loaded on my home computer and see no way to select one; it certainly isn't on the login screen
when i was running 11.1, i could select from the login screen which windows manager to use--only if they were properly installed, of course. don't have 11.1 running right now so can't provide a screenshot, but there's a popup menu on the left side of the screen, a little below the middle, which defaults to the last used windows manager, but allows you to choose from all the others available on the system. if that isn't the case in your installation, are you sure the additional WMs are installed, not just a couple libraries to support some program?
On my 11.1 install, I've looked everywhere on the login screen and there are only three things there: a set of buttons for the login enabled users, a user entry box, and a password entry box. There is NO window manager selection anywhere, and on my box I have KDE3, KDE4 and gnome loaded. Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On my 11.1 install, I've looked everywhere on the login screen and there are only three things there: a set of buttons for the login enabled users, a user entry box, and a password entry box. There is NO window manager selection anywhere, and on my box I have KDE3, KDE4 and gnome loaded.
Jim
look in the bottom left of the kdm It may be hard to see w/ the new scheme, roll your mouse down there and see if something shows up. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon 05 Oct 2009 at 10:52:04 (-0300 UTC), Jim Sabatke wrote:
phanisvara das wrote:
On Sunday 04 October 2009 08:01:29 pm Jim Sabatke wrote:
have no clue where the screen is that allows selection of the window manager. I have KDE3, KDE4 and gnome loaded on my home computer and see no way to select one; it certainly isn't on the login screen
On my 11.1 install, I've looked everywhere on the login screen and there are only three things there: a set of buttons for the login enabled users, a user entry box, and a password entry box. There is NO window manager selection anywhere, and on my box I have KDE3, KDE4 and gnome loaded.
Jim
Just a guess: if your /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager is configured to use "gdm" as displaymanager, then watch carefully to the login screen bottom side, you should see three input fields: left: Language center: Keyboard Layout right: Window Manager you wish to use (based on what you have installed) BR, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> "He often broke into song because he couldn't find the key." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 05 October 2009 07:22:04 pm Jim Sabatke wrote:
On my 11.1 install, I've looked everywhere on the login screen and there are only three things there: a set of buttons for the login enabled users, a user entry box, and a password entry box. There is NO window manager selection anywhere, and on my box I have KDE3, KDE4 and gnome loaded.
i have to go to my 11.1 box then and try to find out what's going on. right now i'm baffled. perhaps there's a setting somewhere that lets you en- or disable different windows managers. don't remember such a thing, and on the computer i'm using now there's only KDE 4 installed... perhaps somebody more knowlegeable comes up with the answer, or i manage to find out. if so, i'll let you know. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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