On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010 20:51:05 Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2010-07-14 21:35, ianseeks wrote:

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HI

I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved? Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them.

I think it keeps track of email it thinks it previously downloaded. That list will be stored somewhere, locally, because there is no way to store that info in the pop3 server (contrary to imap). You have to find and remove that list of downloaded email, or pick those with another client.

i might have to try another client or forward them to myself in the hope it picks them up. thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010 21:18:14 James Knott wrote:

ianseeks wrote:

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HI

I've just logged into my webmail to find i have 32 emails going back over a 2 year period. Some of them have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't. Is there anyway to force kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been retrieved? Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them.

regards

Ian

Are those messages marked as read? If so, mark them unread and they should download.

I tried that, still no luck. thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-07-15 00:59, ianseeks wrote:

On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010 23:36:26 Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

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Change your client configuration to use IMAP, a proper protocol for email retrieval.

Can you do that with an POP3 account?

Certainly not. However, you can try, to see if they do have imap. I have found several providers that did have imap, although disabled at some point. I mean, some had the port opened, some had an imap server responding, but at the last minute, authentication would always fail. And some, after a few years, suddenly announced they had added imap to their service. (the imap server was there because the software they used had both pop3/imap. But they didn't have the resources, and disabled it). And some never add imap to their service. Unless you pay extra, that is. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkw+Q24ACgkQU92UU+smfQW5rgCeNcOVp3G3T0/sORhia+bTOx8/ VBIAmgPO6/vOepU6wAZeyC7c0jiyFAMx =jums -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

El 14/07/10 18:59, ianseeks escribió:

Can you do that with an POP3 account?

No, but your ISP may have the IMAP service running though they might not "support" it in any way. They sell you POP3 accounts because it is supposed to be cheaper to operate. (aka, they sell you crap ;) ) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

El 15/07/10 01:49, ianseeks escribió:

thanks, I'll give it a try, the original ISP (pipex) has been taken over a few times so maybe one of the new owners may have mistakenly set IMAP going.

You can use the account wizard that kmail or thunderbird has to automatically detect what imap server you should use. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-07-15 12:04, Philipp Thomas wrote:

* Cristian Rodríguez (crrodriguez@opensuse.org) [20100715 00:37]:

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Change your client configuration to use IMAP, a proper protocol for email retrieval.

And then spend eons to port your procmailrc to sieve rules ...

Why? On the client side you can still use procmail with imap. I do. The problem is if you use a local imap server and want to distribute your received email there... which is not the OP case. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkw/IhAACgkQja8UbcUWM1z0+wD7BAI57UcU3nWy8rf2msAf3RMW SrDA3l4pMxf3tKhKmccBAJ0E9I1MvQUJj+lfouU291SQej2taglSMJ5yngyuI80J =cALY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Philipp Thomas said the following on 07/20/2010 05:06 AM:

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:58:24 +0200, "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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On the client side you can still use procmail with imap. I do.

Yes, but I needed sorting the mail into folders on the server in order to do selective mail downloads to my N900 smartphone and for that you need sieve.

What am I missing here? I use procmail rules to filter and sort messages into specific folders according to subject and source as well as the results of spamassassin. What is it I'm doing that Philipp says procmail can't do? I don't claim genus in this matter. I just googled for some examples and "changed the names to protect the innocent". Google is my friend. -- Unix *is* user friendly! You just aren't necessarily on the A-list... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-07-21 14:09, Philipp Thomas wrote:

So I have to do the sorting on my providers server and that means creating sieve filters.

Now a bit clearer?

Yes. But that means you have a very good provider. Most of us can not access such features. Think of gmail... and that's a good one! My ISP, Telefonica, looses (as in lost, did I spell it right?) some of my sent email, for example. I have imap, yes. No filtering, no sorting, except spam, and I have no control over it. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxHS3IACgkQU92UU+smfQWCCACfSG0v2rtdu/cekhdH+Ei5oqVY GekAn0/DaUWSpMITh4F8uOXdh7sFPHaU =vKq2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 22:39 -0400, Bob S wrote:

On Wednesday 21 July 2010 15:33:07 Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2010-07-21 14:09, Philipp Thomas wrote:

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So I have to do the sorting on my providers server and that means creating sieve filters. Now a bit clearer? Yes. But that means you have a very good provider. Most of us can not access such features. Think of gmail... and that's a good one!

Check out fastmail.fm for an IMAP provider that supports Open Source. -- Adam Tauno Williams LPIC-1, Novell CLA http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com OpenGroupware, Cyrus IMAPd, Postfix, OpenLDAP, Samba -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2010-07-20 11:06, Philipp Thomas wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:58:24 +0200, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:

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On the client side you can still use procmail with imap. I do.

Yes, but I needed sorting the mail into folders on the server in order to do selective mail downloads to my N900 smartphone and for that you need sieve.

But that is not related to the OP questions. He only has access to the client. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkxGpBAACgkQja8UbcUWM1wkCAD/flhHvhURM4yHdbQA7SAkwN7Q WravEkuEglw0QRs42+EA/iGlWqLK9KT1BJSe50dca4ZtRPljLUavWZrkLbt97fab =w/+Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 09 August 2010 14:49:19 Will Stephenson wrote:
> On Wednesday 14
July 2010 21:35:12 ianseeks wrote:
> > I've just logged into my webmail to
find i have 32 emails going back over
> > a 2 year period.
> > Some of them
have been retrieved by kmail and some haven't.  Is there
> > anyway to force
kmail to re-attempt getting the ones that haven't been
> > retrieved?
Currently it checks the mail box but ignores them.
> 
> I am adding the fix
to the bug to our packages.
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230072
>
which	 looks like it could cause a lot of random behaviour when fetching
>
POP  mail. There will be an online update
> 
> Will.
> 
> 
> --
> Will
Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team
> SUSE LINUX Products GmbH
- Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus
>  Rex
> 
Great, hopefully
this might fix my reported bug 245943 that no-one seems to have checked yet
even though its marked Major.

regards

ian
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