how great SuSE is: trying another distro you discover that...Slackware 9.1 can't find my /media/cdrom as SuSE can
BACKGROUND==SuSE 8.0 just works fine to me. So I'm afraid of making some upgrade that can corrupt my system. I'm giving a chance to trying new kernels with newer Gnome and KDE: I decided to install Slackware 9.1. THE PROBLEM==I have two devices for reading cd-rom: /media/cdrom (in SuSE it points to my Creative 4x CD-ROM reader); and /media/cdrecorder (in SuSE it points to my LG combo CD-RW + DVD-ROM) Untill this moment I don't understand why Slackware 9.1 had found LG combo device as /mnt/cdrom and yet not found the another drive (Creative CD-ROM reader). It was so easy with SuSE...Some ideas? (What had SuSE done automatically that shoudl be make manually in Slackware?) a.
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From: "Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva"
BACKGROUND==SuSE 8.0 just works fine to me. So I'm afraid of making some upgrade that can corrupt my system. I'm giving a chance to trying new kernels with newer Gnome and KDE: I decided to install Slackware 9.1.
THE PROBLEM==I have two devices for reading cd-rom: /media/cdrom (in SuSE it points to my Creative 4x CD-ROM reader); and /media/cdrecorder (in SuSE it points to my LG combo CD-RW + DVD-ROM) Untill this moment I don't understand why Slackware 9.1 had found LG combo device as /mnt/cdrom and yet not found the another drive (Creative CD-ROM reader). It was so easy with SuSE...Some ideas? (What had SuSE done automatically that shoudl be make manually in Slackware?) a.
I would think you should post this on the slackware mailing list. http://www.slackware.com/lists/ Rob
Maybe somebody here can explain to me the way Yast did to recognise and mount my cdrecorder and cdrom; Maybe I could reproduce it manually. a. Rob Freeman escreveu:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva"
To: "SLE" Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:22 AM Subject: [SLE] how great SuSE is: trying another distro you discover that...Slackware 9.1 can't find my /media/cdrom as SuSE can BACKGROUND==SuSE 8.0 just works fine to me. So I'm afraid of making some upgrade that can corrupt my system. I'm giving a chance to trying new kernels with newer Gnome and KDE: I decided to install Slackware 9.1.
THE PROBLEM==I have two devices for reading cd-rom: /media/cdrom (in SuSE it points to my Creative 4x CD-ROM reader); and /media/cdrecorder (in SuSE it points to my LG combo CD-RW + DVD-ROM) Untill this moment I don't understand why Slackware 9.1 had found LG combo device as /mnt/cdrom and yet not found the another drive (Creative CD-ROM reader). It was so easy with SuSE...Some ideas? (What had SuSE done automatically that shoudl be make manually in Slackware?) a.
I would think you should post this on the slackware mailing list.
http://www.slackware.com/lists/
Rob
-- Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva Bibliotecário FIOCRUZ-Centro de Pesquisa Aggeu Magalhães
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 08:22, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
BACKGROUND==SuSE 8.0 just works fine to me. So I'm afraid of making some upgrade that can corrupt my system. I'm giving a chance to trying new kernels with newer Gnome and KDE: I decided to install Slackware 9.1.
THE PROBLEM==I have two devices for reading cd-rom: /media/cdrom (in SuSE it points to my Creative 4x CD-ROM reader); and /media/cdrecorder (in SuSE it points to my LG combo CD-RW + DVD-ROM) Untill this moment I don't understand why Slackware 9.1 had found LG combo device as /mnt/cdrom and yet not found the another drive (Creative CD-ROM reader). It was so easy with SuSE...Some ideas? (What had SuSE done automatically that shoudl be make manually in Slackware?) a.
You may want to ask on the Slackware mailing list. You may get a faster response there. -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2)
On Monday, 17 of May 2004 14:22, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
BACKGROUND==SuSE 8.0 just works fine to me. So I'm afraid of making some upgrade that can corrupt my system. I'm giving a chance to trying new kernels with newer Gnome and KDE: I decided to install Slackware 9.1.
you worry to update quite old 8.0 and at the same moment you are optimistic with Slackware 9.1 where you are a newbie. Where is a logic?
THE PROBLEM==I have two devices for reading cd-rom: /media/cdrom (in SuSE it points to my Creative 4x CD-ROM reader); and /media/cdrecorder (in SuSE it points to my LG combo CD-RW + DVD-ROM) Untill this moment I don't understand why Slackware 9.1 had found LG combo device as /mnt/cdrom and yet not found the another drive (Creative CD-ROM reader). It was so easy with SuSE...Some ideas? (What had SuSE done automatically that shoudl be make manually in Slackware?)
I also have tried few times other distros and always back to great SuSE product. I doubt I will try once again in the future. Good Luck, -- Marek Chlopek
I'm happy with SuSE 8.0: it's stable and I can connect to internet with my winmodem hsp56 based on the humble pcchips mobo M598lmr, play and record cds, for writing i have Abi Word, and Gnumeric for spreadsheets. Although I want to try newer versions of Abiword, Gnucash, etc. I´m avoiding greater risks for SuSE 8.0. I know some people have to make a clean install and anothers have reported some programs and dependencies became corrupt with upgrades. In addition, restoring the system for a point back is not an idea you could count by if you want to make a downgrade (if repented). So it was the time to try and compare SuSE with another distro (you never know what you are losing when you don't keep your mind open) at the same time I can check a newer KDE (3.2) and Gnome (2.4). Learning Slackware is just an exercise for increasing my knowledge about linux - "learning is the best way to keep your mind youg" ;) Thanks for replying adagilson Marek Chlopek escreveu:
On Monday, 17 of May 2004 14:22, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
BACKGROUND==SuSE 8.0 just works fine to me. So I'm afraid of making some upgrade that can corrupt my system. I'm giving a chance to trying new kernels with newer Gnome and KDE: I decided to install Slackware 9.1.
you worry to update quite old 8.0 and at the same moment you are optimistic with Slackware 9.1 where you are a newbie. Where is a logic?
THE PROBLEM==I have two devices for reading cd-rom: /media/cdrom (in SuSE it points to my Creative 4x CD-ROM reader); and /media/cdrecorder (in SuSE it points to my LG combo CD-RW + DVD-ROM) Untill this moment I don't understand why Slackware 9.1 had found LG combo device as /mnt/cdrom and yet not found the another drive (Creative CD-ROM reader). It was so easy with SuSE...Some ideas? (What had SuSE done automatically that shoudl be make manually in Slackware?)
I also have tried few times other distros and always back to great SuSE product. I doubt I will try once again in the future.
Good Luck,
-- Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva Bibliotecário FIOCRUZ-Centro de Pesquisa Aggeu Magalhães
On Monday, 17 of May 2004 17:08, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
I'm happy with SuSE 8.0: it's stable and I can connect to internet with my winmodem hsp56 based on the humble pcchips mobo M598lmr, play and record cds, for writing i have Abi Word, and Gnumeric for spreadsheets. Although I want to try newer versions of Abiword, Gnucash, etc. I´m avoiding greater risks for SuSE 8.0. I know some people have to make a clean install and anothers have reported some programs and dependencies became corrupt with upgrades. In addition, restoring the system for a point back is not an idea you could count by if you want to make a downgrade (if repented).
i understand your point very well, as a SuSE user since 6.4. Some versions did a lot of problems after updating and the only solution was to clean install and two days of configuring :-) however between 8.0 and 9.0 with updated kde (i work on ftp version) is a huge gap (exactly speaking 1.0 ;-) and it is worth to install it.
So it was the time to try and compare SuSE with another distro (you never know what you are losing when you don't keep your mind open) at the same time I can check a newer KDE (3.2) and Gnome (2.4). Learning Slackware is just an exercise for increasing my knowledge about linux - "learning is the best way to keep your mind youg" ;)
I'm sure you will be back to SuSE as you like yast :-) all the best, -- Marek Chlopek
Hello All, I am still new ot linux ... and the list discussions are more than interesting, but one thing seems clear to me: to upgrade from one version (8.0->9.0-9.1, etc.,etc.) seems to cause more than necessary problems. My opinion (MNTBHO): When I was in the Windows environment I learned quite early to not to try to upgrade a version. Instead of trying to upgrade I just bought a new harddrive and loaded the OS on that. Such it was time consuming to reload all the software, drivers, etc... but I found it was less time consuming than the problems I always seems to have doing it the other way. (AND- if I had problems with the new system I always had the old one to fll back on until I got bugs in the new one out.) ===== Stephen W Sarasota, FL "A merry heart doeth good like a medicine ..." Proverbs __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 17:29, Stephen W wrote:
My opinion (MNTBHO): When I was in the Windows environment I learned quite early to not to try to upgrade a version.
I think that's very true, I personally consider my home cut of windows as something with about a 2 years max shelf life. Usually by then, if not earlier, I'll re-install everything from scratch and it will overhaul completely my computing experience. Linux (any distro) certainly has it's pains in doing this, but I would say that it's not as bad as Windows as long as you consider yourself at least an intermediate level user. Most of the time, it tends to be about getting mods up to date with the kernel, you lose your sound or display, etc. With Windows, there's things like registry bloat and conflicts, spyware, worms, etc. I simply won't bother upgrade Windows ever, whereas I will occasioanlly with Linux. I think the Registry is probably the single biggest reason for this. However, having said that, I tend to back up my data and re-install no matter what OS I'm talking about...:) There is one downside to that, however - some config aspects of Linux involve a lot of hard work and research, and starting over again can really be a pain. The big advantage is if the new version you're installing is better at configging your hardware for you... Cheers, J.C. -- John Coldrick www.axyzfx.com Axyz Animation Houdini/Renderman/Discreet 425 Adelaide St W 416-504-0425 Toronto, ON Canada jc@axyzfx.com M5V 1S4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Campbell's Law: Nature abhors a vacuous experimenter.
participants (6)
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Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva
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John Coldrick
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Kenneth Schneider
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Marek Chlopek
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Rob Freeman
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Stephen W