[opensuse] wicd instead of network manager enabled after install, wifi not working

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Mikhail Ramendik

6 Jun 2016 6 Jun '16

03:53

Hello, I have a desktop computer which has a PCI Wi Fi card. Internet is only available via Wi Fi. When I installed OnepSuSe LEAP, it started up and Wi Fi was not working. I went into YaST and found that "Wicked services" was set as the network setup manager, but I found no way to start wicd. So I was stuck without it. When I (with some prompting from IRC) switched the setting to Network manager, YaST wanted to install a package and the Internet was not there. Thankfully I got around this by getting an open wifi network up temporarily and connecting to it using iwconfig. Now everything works and there is a nice Network Manager widget in the KDE system tray. But why was wicd the initial setting and where was its UI? -- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik Unless explicitly stated, all opinions in my mail are my own and do not reflect the views of any organization -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Per Jessen

6 Jun 6 Jun

06:12

Mikhail Ramendik wrote:

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Hello,

I have a desktop computer which has a PCI Wi Fi card. Internet is only available via Wi Fi.

When I installed OnepSuSe LEAP, it started up and Wi Fi was not working. I went into YaST and found that "Wicked services" was set as the network setup manager, but I found no way to start wicd. So I was stuck without it.

wicked is started automatically.

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When I (with some prompting from IRC) switched the setting to Network manager, YaST wanted to install a package and the Internet was not there. Thankfully I got around this by getting an open wifi network up temporarily and connecting to it using iwconfig.

Now everything works and there is a nice Network Manager widget in the KDE system tray. But why was wicd the initial setting and where was its UI?

wicked's UI is 'vi' :-) Why wicked was chosen by default, I'm not sure. I guess YaST has some magic that determines when or when not to use Network Manager. I know it is the default on laptops, but probably not on desktops. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Andrei Borzenkov

06:16

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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wicked's UI is 'vi' :-)

Actually wicked *configuration* UI is YaST. Having DE applet showing network status would still be helpful for users. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

06:58

Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

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On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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wicked's UI is 'vi' :-)

Actually wicked *configuration* UI is YaST.

Ah yes, I forgot about that, I use it so rarely (for network config). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Andrei Borzenkov

06:13

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 6:53 AM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:

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Hello,

I have a desktop computer which has a PCI Wi Fi card. Internet is only available via Wi Fi.

When I installed OnepSuSe

You managed to make four mistakes in distribution name. That's a bit too much for an accident.

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LEAP, it started up and Wi Fi was not working. I went into YaST and found that "Wicked services" was set as the network setup manager, but I found no way to start wicd. So I was stuck without it.

wicd has nothing to do with wicked - they are two separate pieces of software. wicd was never configurable via YaST; you need to do this manually. wicked should be started automatically; how do you know it was *not* started? How did you check it?

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When I (with some prompting from IRC) switched the setting to Network manager, YaST wanted to install a package and the Internet was not there. Thankfully I got around this by getting an open wifi network up temporarily and connecting to it using iwconfig.

Now everything works and there is a nice Network Manager widget in the KDE system tray. But why was wicd the initial setting and where was its UI?

Usually installer defaults to Network Manager on notebooks (as long as it can guess it is notebook) and to wicked (or ifup in the past) on desktops on the premises that desktop needs just one static connection. It is hard to tell why wicked did not work in your case; did you configure it during (or after) installation at all? Wicked does not have desktop UI as far as I know. It is more server oriented where you have fixed connection that is simply started when system boots. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Mikhail Ramendik

14:06

New subject: [opensuse] Re: wicd instead of network manager enabled after install, wifi not working

Andrei Borzenkov has (offlist) found the settings I failed to find. It turned out I needed to go to YaST>Network Settings, there Overview tab, select the wireless card, click Edit. There in the Address tab, click Next (that button might be a bit hard to notice) and get the wireless setup. On 6 June 2016 at 04:53, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:

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Hello,

I have a desktop computer which has a PCI Wi Fi card. Internet is only available via Wi Fi.

When I installed OnepSuSe LEAP, it started up and Wi Fi was not working. I went into YaST and found that "Wicked services" was set as the network setup manager, but I found no way to start wicd. So I was stuck without it.

When I (with some prompting from IRC) switched the setting to Network manager, YaST wanted to install a package and the Internet was not there. Thankfully I got around this by getting an open wifi network up temporarily and connecting to it using iwconfig.

Now everything works and there is a nice Network Manager widget in the KDE system tray. But why was wicd the initial setting and where was its UI?

-- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik

Unless explicitly stated, all opinions in my mail are my own and do not reflect the views of any organization

-- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik Unless explicitly stated, all opinions in my mail are my own and do not reflect the views of any organization -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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