On Tue, 29 May 2012 20:33:49 +0530, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

For the moment I am using KMail 4.8.3 and although it is not without flaws it let me do my emails. Have stopped Nepomuk and do not have serious problems with the speed and akonadi. Would say, it is worth a try. Do an upgrade.

same here. 4.8.3 was largely a bugfix and stability update, and compared to 4.7.2 things got much better. even during earlier versions, i think from 4.5.x onwards, i didn't have as serious problems with kmail as many others did, perhaps because i keep all my mail in a local dovecot server, which doesn't get easily affected by kmail misfunction. since 4.8.3, even akonadi/nepomuk/strigi works well for me, without consuming too many resources -- and it does find files it has indexed, even though i don't use this feature much. but before i got all this to work, i had to start over with a fresh $HOME, since up to and during 4.7.x i had something messed up in my configuration which i wasn't able to figure out. since i installed openSUSE 12.2 on my working machine i started with a fresh $HOME, and everything KDE related works extremely well now. i think it's asking too much to expect a flawless upgrade path for all this akonadi/nepoumuk stuff; it's too complicated for this, and starting over does allow you to import your old data once you got everything working ok. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

After some googling I found http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Distro:/Stable/openSUSE_12.1/... Are these the correct (current?) repos for SuSE 12.1 64Bit? ----- Ursprüngliche Message ----- Von: Peter Maffter An: "opensuse@opensuse.org" CC: Gesendet: 22:32 Dienstag, 29.Mai 2012 Betreff: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable Did you compile 4.8.3 of kmail from sources or are there rpms for SuSE 12.1? I managed to silence nepomuk indexing since I do not need it. But akonadi_agent_l still rattles on my harddiscs. So I killed it as root, I know that it will start again after re-login. :-( If it all fails I will do a $HOME-fresher also. SuSE says: "Wednesday, 11 July 2012: openSUSE 12.2 Public release" http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap I will wait a bit. ----- Ursprüngliche Message ----- Von: phanisvara das An: opensuse@opensuse.org CC: Gesendet: 17:30 Dienstag, 29.Mai 2012 Betreff: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable On Tue, 29 May 2012 20:33:49 +0530, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

For the moment I am using KMail 4.8.3 and although it is not without flaws it let me do my emails. Have stopped Nepomuk and do not have serious problems with the speed and akonadi. Would say, it is worth a try. Do an upgrade.

same here. 4.8.3 was largely a bugfix and stability update, and compared to 4.7.2 things got much better. even during earlier versions, i think from 4.5.x onwards, i didn't have as serious problems with kmail as many others did, perhaps because i keep all my mail in a local dovecot server, which doesn't get easily affected by kmail misfunction. since 4.8.3, even akonadi/nepomuk/strigi works well for me, without consuming too many resources -- and it does find files it has indexed, even though i don't use this feature much. but before i got all this to work, i had to start over with a fresh $HOME, since up to and during 4.7.x i had something messed up in my configuration which i wasn't able to figure out. since i installed openSUSE 12.2 on my working machine i started with a fresh $HOME, and everything KDE related works extremely well now. i think it's asking too much to expect a flawless upgrade path for all this akonadi/nepoumuk stuff; it's too complicated for this, and starting over does allow you to import your old data once you got everything working ok. --phani. --To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

kmail very often hangs in SuSE 12.1 and then I have to kill it. :-( The KDE 4.8.3 stuff  is currently downloading. Is there some kind of ISO image which makes it easier to update KDE4 on OpenSuSE 12.1? After reading some tests and postings on the Web I am also thinking about changing to evolution as mail/calendar tool. But afaics it is not so easy to import old emails from kmail to evolution. ----- Ursprüngliche Message ----- Von: phanisvara das An: "opensuse@opensuse.org" CC: Gesendet: 22:54 Dienstag, 29.Mai 2012 Betreff: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable On Wed, 30 May 2012 02:07:51 +0530, Peter Maffter wrote:

After some googling I found http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Distro:/Stable/openSUSE_12.1/x86_64/> Are these the correct (current?) repos for SuSE 12.1 64Bit?

no, that one contains KDE 4.7.4 that was released with openSUSE 12.1. you'll find 4.8.3 in these two locations: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/48/ for the (supposedly) stable version, and http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Distro:/Factory/ for the 'K:D:F' i.e. KDE-factory version. (this has nothing to do with oS factory.) while K:D:F isn't recommended for daily or serious use, i usually fare better with it. YMMV, of course. --phani. --To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 04:49:36 Graham Smith wrote:

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I came to the conclusion that nothing comes near to Kmail in respect to usability, so I ended up setting up a virtual using vmplayer with openSUSE 11.4 and kontact 4.4.9. ...

You can use the 11.4's kmail under 12.1, see http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/4634... And use Yast2 to lock the packages in place to prevent any upgrades. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 04/06/12 09:29, Graham Smith wrote:

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:16:57 michael@actrix.gen.nz wrote:

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On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 04:49:36 Graham Smith wrote:

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I came to the conclusion that nothing comes near to Kmail in respect to usability, so I ended up setting up a virtual using vmplayer with openSUSE 11.4 and kontact 4.4.9.

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You can use the 11.4's kmail under 12.1, see

http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/463 427-kde4-7-migration-kmail2-post2414391.html#post2414391

And use Yast2 to lock the packages in place to prevent any upgrades.

I tried installing kmail 4.7.4 and associated files you mentioned but unfortunately kmail would not run - kept seg faulting. I gave up and resorted to using VMware Player which works quite well.

Hi Although it looks as it comes from the 1980's, thunderbird works all the time. Have a look at that maybe? L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

I also tried Thunderbird and as Graham said, this is no option (but if all fails I will have to use it of course). Regards Pete ________________________________ Von: Graham Smith An: opensuse@opensuse.org Gesendet: 16:45 Montag, 4.Juni 2012 Betreff: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:21:30 lynn wrote:

Hi Although it looks as it comes from the 1980's, thunderbird works all the time. Have a look at that maybe? L x

As I mentioned in my original post I tried all available email clients and found them far inferior to Kmail. Then there is the great effort involved in converting all existing emails over to a different format and then there is the problem with mail filtering. All this to end up with a crappy email client which does not meet my needs. I prefer my solution using the old version of Kmail until kmail 2 becomes stable, even if this means running it in a virtual. -- Regards, Graham Smith -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Sorry again for the "top" mail format - I have to use one of those webmail things and these do not offer the normal mail formatting. :-( This is one other reason why I want kmail back! Current status: I installed KDE 4.8.3. But kmail still fails miserable: -mailfolders are there but mails are not displayed at all -it crashes when moving mailfolders So kmail 4.8.3 is still unusable. systemsettings > personal information > akonadi Resource Config shows double entries like Personal Contacts and Notes, I guess this comes from the update frmo 4.7.2 to 4.8.3 I deleted these and will try again with a complete new kmail from scratch. ----- Ursprüngliche Message ----- Von: Sven Burmeister An: opensuse@opensuse.org CC: Gesendet: 20:30 Samstag, 2.Juni 2012 Betreff: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable Am Samstag, 2. Juni 2012, 14:50:42 schrieb Peter Maffter:

The KDE 4.8.3 stuff  is currently downloading. Is there some kind of ISO image which makes it easier to update KDE4 on OpenSuSE 12.1?

No ISO, all you need can be found via google and is part of the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KDE_upgrade#Upgrade_to_Latest_Release_from_Upstre...

After reading some tests and postings on the Web I am also thinking about changing to evolution as mail/calendar tool. But afaics it is not so easy to import old emails from kmail to

It is in most cases and certainly if you only used maildir or mbox but did not mix them. All you need to know is where you email is stored. You skip kmail's automatic import and go to systemsettings > personal information > akonadi. There you add maildir etc. resources and point them to the folders with you email. Akonadi will then server that data to the clients. In case you mixed maildir and mbox (and only then) you have to use the kmail- folder resource. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sunday, June 03, 2012 06:56:45 PM Sven Burmeister wrote:

Am Sonntag, 3. Juni 2012, 13:27:38 schrieb Peter Maffter:

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-mailfolders are there but mails are not displayed at all

It takes some time until akonadi has created the cache. So waiting or maybe even restarting akonadi might help.

Regarding the crash, does it only crash if you move multiple folders or also when moving one folder at a time?

Sven

Like Sven mentioned Akonadi needs some time to recreate and read All mails (specially if you have many mails to download). The first thing it does is synchronize your folders with no mails inside. Once it makes some comparison what is local and what in your mail server the first folder to replenish should be Inbox ( it's my regular practice to not mess all mails around). Finished completely this phase, I usually go to refresh All Mails. This will sync the other mails on subfolders. And no more problems on my side. Hope this make your transition easier. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Linux & FOSS Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Monday, June 11, 2012 08:40:09 PM Peter Maffter wrote:

Even if akonadi runs for some hours, KMail (KDE 4.8.3) does not show any body of the messages. The header lines are displayed. I suspect that upgrade to 4.8.3 did damage something.

@crash: if I move one folder and then another it crashes. If I restart, the 2nd moved folder is in its old location.

How can I start from scratch with KMail? Which directories have to be deleted, so that KMail starts right from the beginning? Do I have to delete certain akonadi databases?

Thanks in advance

----- Ursprüngliche Message ----- Von: Ricardo Chung An: opensuse@opensuse.org CC: Gesendet: 21:38 Montag, 4.Juni 2012 Betreff: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable

On Sunday, June 03, 2012 06:56:45 PM Sven Burmeister wrote:

...

Am Sonntag, 3. Juni 2012, 13:27:38 schrieb Peter Maffter:

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-mailfolders are there but mails are not displayed at all

It takes some time until akonadi has created the cache. So waiting or maybe even restarting akonadi might help.

Regarding the crash, does it only crash if you move multiple folders or also when moving one folder at a time?

Sven

Like Sven mentioned Akonadi needs some time to recreate and read All mails (specially if you have many mails to download). The first thing it does is synchronize your folders with no mails inside. Once it makes some comparison what is local and what in your mail server the first folder to replenish should be Inbox ( it's my regular practice to not mess all mails around). Finished completely this phase, I usually go to refresh All Mails. This will sync the other mails on subfolders. And no more problems on my side.

Hope this make your transition easier.

Regards,

Peter, Just to keep mails archive logical to read and organize try to not post your comments on top of the content. It's better posting below the last mail you are answering. I found the directions below very helpful when migrating from one KMail version to another. This is quoted from The KMail Handbook 8.2 Clean start after a failed migration In case migration from KMail 1 to KMail 2 fails or you have weird problems after it, you can try to do a clean import of your data, instead of migrating the existing settings. Be warned, that needs more manual setup, so do only if you are confident with setting up again your KMail accounts, and it can generate a large amount of network traffic for IMAP resources. 1. Stop Akonadi and related applications quit KMail/Kontact/KOrganizer, and issue this command: akonadictl stop Make sure no Akonadi or MySQL process is running: ps ux | grep mysql ps ux | grep akonadi They should not show anything else but the grep process itself. 2. Remove old Akonadi database and config Delete the following folders • ~/.local/share/akonadi • ~/.config/akonadi Delete also the files starting with akonadi from ~/.kde4/share/config 3. Restart Akonadi server akonadictl start 4. Add back the accounts Now it is time to add back your account. You can use KMail (Kontact) for it, or you can use the akonadiconsole tool. In KMail: Settings → Configure KMail → Accounts and use Add. If you use IMAP, add a new IMAP E-Mail server. If you want disconnected mode (so you can read the mails offline), enable it on the Advanced tab. Be sure to check that you are subscribed to all your important folders. You might already see a Local folder resource. This points to a local maildir folder. You can either modify this to point to your existing maildir folders or you can add a new resource for local mails. When adding a maildir resource you can choose between KMail Mail Folder or Maildir. Unless you have a mixed folder containing both maildir folders and mbox files, you should choose Maildir. For independent mbox files, like the one in the /var/spool/mail, you can set up a new MBox folder. Add the POP3 accounts as well. In case you have multiple Local Folders set up, choose on the Advanced tab the destination folder where the newly downloaded mails are put. For all accounts, configure the mail check interval. For Local folders disable interval check- ing and also disable Include in manual mail check in the Retrieval options. Add the sending (SMTP) accounts. 5. Fix your filters, identities and favorite folders If you have client side filtering (common with POP3 mails), go to Settings → Configure Fil- ters and fix the destination folder for the filters, they most probably are wrong. Otherwise mails will end up in folders you don’t expect. Spam filter (at least in version 4.7.3 and earlier) does not work as expected in that the rule that the wizard creates does not send spam to the folder you have defined. The workaround for this is to change the ‘spam’ and ‘spam unsure’ (if the spam filter you use support that) from looking at Status-fields in the header X-Spam- Status to look Anywhere in headers for X-your spam filter -Classification: ‘SPAM or unsure’. Look at the filters the wizard creates and copy the ‘contains’ part. Example for Spambayes: ‘X- Spambayes-Classification: spam’ and ‘X-Spambayes-Classification: unsure’. You also need to verify the identity settings and set the sent-mail, drafts and templates fold- ers to point to the right folders. To do that go to Settings → Configure KMail → Identities, modify the identity, go to the Advanced tab and modify the above mentioned folder set- tings. Check also that your Favorite Folders are the ones you have chosen before. 6. Initiate a mail check Start a mail check for your accounts. It is suggested doing it per account. First do for IMAP, if you have. Next is to check (import) your local mails. One solution is to do a full check in one go File → Check Mail In and select the local account, the other is to click one by one on the folders, that should initiate the check for that folder (alternatively right click on the folder name and select Update Folder). The initial import might be slow and could use a lot of memory, especially in case you have folders with a large amount of mail. In that case per-folder check is preferred. In case the check (complete or for one folder) is finished and the memory usage is still high, you could restart the Akonadi server — as seen above — or just the maildir agent, if you use akonadiconsole. Do not worry, this high memory usage is only for initial import. Initiate a check mail for POP3 resources" Hopefully after these steps, you will have a much nicer KMail experience. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Linux & FOSS Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Von: Ricardo Chung

An: opensuse@opensuse.org CC: Gesendet: 3:45 Dienstag, 12.Juni 2012 Betreff: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable

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Peter,

Just to keep mails archive logical to read and organize try to not post your comments on top of the content. It's better posting below the last mail you are answering.

I fiddled around with the settings in Yahoo and now I got to the point where there is some rudimentary quoting possible (together with the usual editing). I hope this is ok. @Kmail: had no time to check your advice but thanks again. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Von: Peter Maffter An: "opensuse@opensuse.org" CC: Gesendet: 19:31 Sonntag, 24.Juni 2012 Betreff: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable

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I imported the old mbox mails and the non-mbox mails into one directory. This is a nuisance since akonadi then starts doing it's stuff and using 40% of a Quadcore machine! I had to nice akonadi so that the machine gets responsive again. :-(

Hmm...how long will akonadi take for some 900MB of mails? It's rattling on the HDDs for nearly 3hrs now. :-/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Von: Sven Burmeister

An: opensuse@opensuse.org CC: Gesendet: 9:32 Montag, 25.Juni 2012 Betreff: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable

Am Sonntag, 24. Juni 2012, 21:09:37 schrieb Peter Maffter: ...

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Hmm...how long will akonadi take for some 900MB of mails? It's rattling on the HDDs for nearly 3hrs now. :-/

If you have problems with 4.7.2 use a different KDE version.

It was already suggested to me to use 4.8.3. That's what I use currently. I changed subject accordingly. Anyway - another 2hrs later it was finished but now all the subdirs are also missing and it looks like I have to import each directory from my trusty old SuSE 10.3 KMail. That is tedious and will take ages. I cannot sit in front of KMail and import emails for hours. :-( Is there some simpler and correct way to import the structure and mails of my old 10.3 KMail? Also when opening the old directories and some mails in them KMail takes 100% CPU and it takes approx half a minute before the email is readable. At the same time I am still looking for alternatives (beside thunderbird) since kmail up to now does not seem to be very usable. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Von: Sven Burmeister An: opensuse@opensuse.org CC: Gesendet: 10:22 Montag, 25.Juni 2012 Betreff: Re: KMail 4.8.3 also quite unusable (was: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable)

Am Montag, 25. Juni 2012, 09:07:12 schrieb Peter Maffter:

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It was already suggested to me to use 4.8.3. That's what I use currently. I changed subject accordingly.

4.8.4 is current.

But I heard that KDE 4.8.4 has other issues. I also just upgraded to 4.8.3 just because everybody said that KMail is better in that version. :-/

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Anyway - another 2hrs later it was finished but now all the subdirs are also missing and it looks like I have to import each directory from my trusty old SuSE 10.3 KMail. That is tedious and will take ages. I cannot sit in front of KMail and import emails for hours. :-(

Worked here if you do not mix mbox with maildir. Kmail's "home"-format is plain maildir, e.g. not the kmail-folder resource. Sounds strange but it's true nevertheless.

So the new  KMail cannot handle a mixture of mbox and maildir? But that is the case in my mailbox and the KMail from SuSE 10.3 happily accepted that. Ok, if KMail cannot do it: what else can I use (except thunderbird) and which mail tool easily imports the 900MB mails and structure from my old trusted SuSE-10.3-KMail? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:33:09 Martin Helm wrote:

... Consider to install kdepim3 and use that instead.

Thanks for suggesting this alternative. I just installed kdepim3 from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_12.1/ and I must say it looks like a promising option. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

and would be like going back to KDE3 in fact. :-( a somewhat weird conclusion, of course it needs some basic kde3

Am 04.07.2012 10:57, schrieb Peter Maffter: libraries, but that has nothing to do with going back to kde3. In fact if you install a gnome application it also installs the libraries for that applications dependencies and it does not mean to switch from kde to gnome. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Von: Patrick Shanahan

An: opensuse@opensuse.org CC: Gesendet: 13:57 Montag, 25.Juni 2012 Betreff: Re: KMail 4.8.3 also quite unusable (was: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable)

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Ok, if KMail cannot do it: what else can I use (except thunderbird) and which mail tool easily imports the 900MB mails and structure from my old trusted SuSE-10.3-KMail?

Mutt can do it, quickly.  Matter-of-fact, mutt can use/read the existing structure/location.

Are we getting back to the terminal and character GUI. :-) Good old mutt. I remember using that a bit in 1997. Probably I will try thunderbird before I use mutt. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Von: Insomniactoo

An: opensuse@opensuse.org CC: Gesendet: 18:50 Montag, 25.Juni 2012 Betreff: Re: KMail 4.8.3 also quite unusable (was: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable)

On Monday, 25 June 2012 06:30 Peter Maffter wrote:

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Ok, if KMail cannot do it: what else can I use (except thunderbird) and which mail tool easily imports the 900MB mails and structure from my old trusted SuSE-10.3-KMail?

  Would something like 'mairix' be of any help?

  http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/mairix/

But afaics this only opens a second directory with a somewhat better structure (hopefully) which can be referenced then. It is not an email client as KMail and I would have to keep 2 directories instead of one. As such I still would have the problem of finding a decent mail client which is the main problem currently. Are there any good import tools for evolution so that I can import the structure of my old kmail (mixture of mbox and maildir) easily? I tried evolution a bit and it seems like a proper replacement for my old KMail from SuSE 10.3 as long as KMail 4.X does handle the import of KMail 3.X stuff. Or maybe there is some better import tool for KMail 3.X -> KMail 4.X? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Von: Sven Burmeister An: opensuse@opensuse.org CC: Gesendet: 10:23 Montag, 25.Juni 2012 Betreff: Re: KMail 4.8.3 also quite unusable (was: Re: [opensuse] SuSE 12.1: KMail 4.7.2 unusable)

Am Montag, 25. Juni 2012, 09:07:12 schrieb Peter Maffter:

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Also when opening the old directories and some mails in them KMail takes 100% CPU and it takes approx half a minute before the email is readable.

You can also use akonadiconsole to check what akonadi is doing while using CPU.

One question Sven: in some other posting you said: "In case you are still using the kdepim that came with 12.1 and did not update you might find the local folders not in ~/.local/share/local-mail but ~/.local/share/.local-mail.directory due to the maildir structure. So all you have to do with a "new" akonadi is point it to the data folders." See:  http://opensuse.14.n6.nabble.com/12-1-to-12-2-kmail-import-export-td4966708.... Would that be possible with KMail 4.8.3 to just point akonadi to the old KMail 3.X mail directory at ~/Mail with the mixed mbox/maildir structure and akonadi sorts that out? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org