[opensuse] Where are system update instructions? Need to update 10.0->10.2 without CD-drive.
Hi! I have a test server that is running 10.0 and it does not have a CD/DVD drive. It does however have a floppy drive (but it's not used and unclear if it is even connected :-) So, how do I update that 10.0 to 10.2? I have another 10.0 on the network as well as 10.2 in a VMware and I can use those both to help here. But I have no idea how to do this. If I open "System update" from YaST, it want's to update my system to 10.0... which is what I want to update from! (And further more, it says it wants to update 17 packages even though I just updated everything with smart...) I searched to OpenSUSE site/wiki for instructions on how to update old version of openSUSE to newer one. I could not find the information. I know, I'm probably blind and just didn't see it. Please, can somebody point me to the right direction? -- HG. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 16 December 2006 02:05, HG wrote:
But I have no idea how to do this. If I open "System update" from YaST, it want's to update my system to 10.0... which is what I want to update from!
Point an installation source to a 10.2 repository and then try the System Update... -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
Hi!
Thanks for the tip. But...
On 12/16/06, John Andersen
On Saturday 16 December 2006 02:05, HG wrote:
But I have no idea how to do this. If I open "System update" from YaST, it want's to update my system to 10.0... which is what I want to update from!
Point an installation source to a 10.2 repository and then try the System Update...
In the mean time, I looked around SUSE help again. I did found a paragraph of the system update. It says: "Update the version of SUSE Linux installed on your system with 'System Update'. During operation, you can only update application software, not the base system." Don't those two contradict? First says, you use System Update to install the version of SUSE, but then next says, that it can not do that. Great. Then it goes on to say: "To update the base system, boot the computer from an installation medium, such as CD. When selecting the installation mode in YaST, select 'Update an Existing System'." What is the point of "System Update" in YaST? So it means that I need to boot from something. Now, I can boot from network and possibly from floppies. How do I boot from network and start SUSE installation? Should be quite easy as it's only a few clicks in Knoppix... I'm thinking that as I have the ISO image on the other server, there should be easy way to make the other server boot from net and just start on the installation (I think that's about how knoppix does it.). Jdd, thanks for your tip also. I do not have any spare partitions where I could copy stuff (or keep 10.0 around) so I have to be able to boot from the net. -- HG. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 18:26 +0200, HG wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for the tip. But...
In the mean time, I looked around SUSE help again. I did found a paragraph of the system update. It says: "Update the version of SUSE Linux installed on your system with 'System Update'. During operation, you can only update application software, not the base system." Don't those two contradict? First says, you use System Update to install the version of SUSE, but then next says, that it can not do that. Great. Then it goes on to say: "To update the base system, boot the computer from an installation medium, such as CD. When selecting the installation mode in YaST, select 'Update an Existing System'." What is the point of "System Update" in YaST?
So it means that I need to boot from something. Now, I can boot from network and possibly from floppies. How do I boot from network and start SUSE installation? Should be quite easy as it's only a few clicks in Knoppix... I'm thinking that as I have the ISO image on the other server, there should be easy way to make the other server boot from net and just start on the installation (I think that's about how knoppix does it.).
Jdd, thanks for your tip also. I do not have any spare partitions where I could copy stuff (or keep 10.0 around) so I have to be able to boot from the net.
Is there no way to temporarily add a CD/DVD reader just to install the newer version? Even a USB external drive would do. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi!
On 12/16/06, Kenneth Schneider
Is there no way to temporarily add a CD/DVD reader just to install the newer version? Even a USB external drive would do.
Physically not really (possible as that's how it was installed in the first place, but now it's too much work). USB I guess would be, well at least physically possible, but not sure about BIOS and I do not have any at hand to try. :-( Yeah, it's strange that the servers aren't that well equipped. Most of our servers only have CD (i.e. no DVD) and this one doesn't have anything. It doesn't even have a place for it. -- HG. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 16 December 2006 17:26, HG wrote:
So it means that I need to boot from something. Now, I can boot from
The way I installed 10.2 on my pc is: put linux and initrd from 10.2's boot.iso somewhere on a partition, made an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst pointing to both, and rebooted. Here's the entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst: --8<-- title OpenSUSE Linux 10.2 Installation - gwdg kernel (hd0,1)/linux vga=0x346 install=http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss splash=silent showopts initrd (hd0,1)/initrd --8<-- Please note: - Change the drive and path to linux/initrd according to your situation. - Perhaps choose a different mirror. - The videomode (0x346) may not be supported by your video card. Supply a supported video mode. It is possible that this does not work if the initrd does not contain the required drivers for your hardware (e.g. NIC). Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi!
On 12/16/06, Leendert Meyer
On Saturday 16 December 2006 17:26, HG wrote:
So it means that I need to boot from something. Now, I can boot from
The way I installed 10.2 on my pc is: put linux and initrd from 10.2's boot.iso somewhere on a partition, made an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst pointing to both, and rebooted.
Ah, so it can be on the same partition (as where the system is now and where the updated system should be)! Ok, I'll try this.
It is possible that this does not work if the initrd does not contain the required drivers for your hardware (e.g. NIC).
Yeah, this is true. But if they are not, then I probably can not do this with the floppies either. (I could not find floppies anymore, so I could not yet try if the floppy drive works or not ... sigh.) Probably works though. At least it's somehow present in the current installation. So I'll do that if I can not get your way to work. Thanks all for the tips. -- HG. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 16 December 2006 19:21, HG wrote:
The way I installed 10.2 on my pc is: put linux and initrd from 10.2's boot.iso somewhere on a partition, made an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst pointing to both, and rebooted.
Ah, so it can be on the same partition (as where the system is now and where the updated system should be)!
Indeed. There is however a point of no return, which is usually marked well by the installer. ;-) Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006-12-16 10:26, HG wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for the tip. But...
On 12/16/06, John Andersen
wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 02:05, HG wrote:
But I have no idea how to do this. If I open "System update" from YaST, it want's to update my system to 10.0... which is what I want to update from!
Point an installation source to a 10.2 repository and then try the System Update...
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Jdd, thanks for your tip also. I do not have any spare partitions where I could copy stuff (or keep 10.0 around) so I have to be able to boot from the net.
You do not need any spare partitions if you just change your installation sources to point to 10.2 repositories. See http://en.opensuse.org/Updating_SUSE_Linux You must do: 1. change *all* repositories to 10.2 sources, including extra ones like Packman or guru. 2. ensure that *all* packages which cannot be updated are removed (the dependency check will be useful here, but you might have to wade through a lot of choices, particularly if you do not adhere to point 1.) Make sure you read and understand the warning at the top of the URL I posted above. -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
HG a écrit :
Hi!
I have a test server that is running 10.0 and it does not have a CD/DVD drive. It does however have a floppy drive (but it's not used and unclear if it is even connected :-)
So, how do I update that 10.0 to 10.2? I have another 10.0 on the network as well as 10.2 in a VMware and I can use those both to help here. But I have no idea how to do this. If I open "System update" from YaST, it want's to update my system to 10.0... which is what I want to update from! (And further more, it says it wants to update 17 packages even though I just updated everything with smart...)
I searched to OpenSUSE site/wiki for instructions on how to update old version of openSUSE to newer one. I could not find the information. I know, I'm probably blind and just didn't see it. Please, can somebody point me to the right direction?
the best way, IMHO is to copy the files /boot/.../linux and initrd from any install cd/dvd of opensuse on a partition you wont erase in the install process (do this by the net, these files are probably downloadable also) then start them with the grub boot of 10.0, you will be in the install yast and can install from the net. better you keep your 10.0 around and use an other partition for the new install jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Darryl Gregorash
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jdd
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John Andersen
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Kenneth Schneider
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Leendert Meyer