Is anyone out there using this scsi card (Adaptec 2906 PCI). I'm getting a Yamaha scsi CDRW, and without sounding to cheap, this is the low end (affordable) of the scsi cards that Yamaha recommends, the other one is the 2940 which sells for $275.00 dollars. The 2906 is not on the SuSE supported hardware list, but it sort of is on the RedHat 6.2 intel list. What I mean by sort of is, its listed as 29xx PCI in a long list of approved cards. RedHat 6.2 has the sme kernal 2.2.14 as SuSE 6.4 which I am running. Thanks Michael -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Greetings! I currently have a SuSE 6.3 installation on a 6.4GB hard drive that consists of three partitions (/boot,/swap, and /) that I would like to transfer to a new 20GB hard drive. I'm planning to use Drive Image to copy the partitions directly over to the new hard drive, and then use the unallocated space (~14GB) for a /pub partition. Does Drive Image do a good job at copying the partitions (no resizing)? Is there alternative method of preserving an established installation to a new hard drive? Thanks! Christopher Reimer -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
I've used Drive Image to copy partitions from one hd to another on a hd that had Windows98 & Red Hat Linux on it. As I recall as long as you copy one whole drive to another, and do NOT take the "fill all available space" option, Drive image will work fine. On the other hand I have had little success moving individual linux partitions with Drive Image; the usaual result of that is a "kernel panic - unable to mount vfs" message. Sometimes using the "rdev" parameter on bootup (providing you get a full LILO and not just LI) to point to the location of the new root device partition worked, sometimes no. On the whole Drive Image usally works with Linux as long as you're just copying one whole hd to another, but is very iffy when moving around Linux partitions. Other things you can use might be Norton Ghost or Linux's dd.
I currently have a SuSE 6.3 installation on a 6.4GB hard drive that consists of three partitions (/boot,/swap, and /) that I would like to transfer to a new 20GB hard drive. I'm planning to use Drive Image to copy the partitions directly over to the new hard drive, and then use the unallocated space (~14GB) for a /pub partition.
Does Drive Image do a good job at copying the partitions (no resizing)?
Is there alternative method of preserving an established installation to a new hard drive?
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Danny Barnes wrote:
I've used Drive Image to copy partitions from one hd to another on a hd that had Windows98 & Red Hat Linux on it.
Is Drive Image a commercial product? Does it do anything that Partition Magic can't? (Partition Magic can move *and* resize ext2fs partitions.) Paul Abrahams -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Drive Image is made by the same company that makes Partition Magic. It can create and restore drive images, resize partitions, and can copy one hard drive to another. Drive Image can copy Linux partitions but not resize partitions. A very useful program. Christopher Reimer On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
Danny Barnes wrote:
I've used Drive Image to copy partitions from one hd to another on a hd that had Windows98 & Red Hat Linux on it.
Is Drive Image a commercial product? Does it do anything that Partition Magic can't? (Partition Magic can move *and* resize ext2fs partitions.)
Paul Abrahams
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Danny Barnes wrote:
I've used Drive Image to copy partitions from one hd to another on a hd
that
had Windows98 & Red Hat Linux on it.
Paul Abrahams responded Is Drive Image a commercial product? Does it do anything that Partition Magic can't? (Partition Magic can move *and* resize ext2fs partitions.)
Danny Barnes clarifies That's funny. Both Drive Image and Partition Magic are PowerQuest products and indeed share the SAME technology with regards to moving and copying partitions. As for the resizing, Partition Magic V 5 does NOT resize natively; It includes an open source program that has dependencies that are not satisfied by the linux software Partition Magic includes. I own them both since you can get them from a local Powerquest rep for about half price when it's associated with a Linux users group. A couple a months ago the San Diego Powerquest rep made a presentation at our KPLUG http://www.kernel-panic.org meeting and I purchased them. Hence I stand by my original posting as it comes from my own direct personal experience in having USED both Drive Image and Partition Magic with Linux. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, you sat in front of your keyboard, and wrote:
Danny Barnes wrote:
I've used Drive Image to copy partitions from one hd to another on a hd that had Windows98 & Red Hat Linux on it.
Is Drive Image a commercial product? Does it do anything that Partition Magic can't? (Partition Magic can move *and* resize ext2fs partitions.)
Paul Abrahams
Is it possible to resize with PM? I thought this would destroy the partition? "Nuclear war can ruin your whole compile." -- Karl Lehenbauer ------------------------------------- This Email is 100% Virus Free! How do I know? ~ Because no Microsoft products were used to generate it! ------------------------------------- 7:00pm up 39 min, 2 users, load average: 1.06, 1.09, 0.99 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Alex Risselada wrote:
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, you sat in front of your keyboard, and wrote:
Danny Barnes wrote:
I've used Drive Image to copy partitions from one hd to another on a hd that had Windows98 & Red Hat Linux on it.
Is Drive Image a commercial product? Does it do anything that Partition Magic can't? (Partition Magic can move *and* resize ext2fs partitions.)
Paul Abrahams
Is it possible to resize with PM? I thought this would destroy the partition?
I never tried it, but since the PM manual describes a resize operation without mentioning any restrictions on applying it to ext2fs partitions, I've assumed it works as smoothly as it does with FAT partitions. Paul Abrahams -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Alex Risselada wrote:
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, you sat in front of your keyboard, and wrote:
Danny Barnes wrote:
I've used Drive Image to copy partitions from one hd to another on a hd that had Windows98 & Red Hat Linux on it.
Is Drive Image a commercial product? Does it do anything that Partition Magic can't? (Partition Magic can move *and* resize ext2fs partitions.)
Paul Abrahams
Is it possible to resize with PM? I thought this would destroy the
Oh no. Resizing An ext2fs partition is NOT a native function for PM and in
fact while included, is not supported by Powerquest. PM and Drive Image are
still very useful utilities for the Linux user who multiboots but I'd put
em' in the catagory of progressing, not perfect.
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From: "Paul W. Abrahams"
I never tried it, but since the PM manual describes a resize operation
without
mentioning any restrictions on applying it to ext2fs partitions, I've assumed it works as smoothly as it does with FAT partitions.
Paul Abrahams
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On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Danny Barnes wrote:
Oh no. Resizing An ext2fs partition is NOT a native function for PM and in fact while included, is not supported by Powerquest. PM and Drive Image are still very useful utilities for the Linux user who multiboots but I'd put em' in the catagory of progressing, not perfect.
I haven't seen a clear cut answer to my question about Drive Image. (There are other solutions that I will be checking out.) Can I safely transfer the paritions of a 6.4GB to an empty 20GB drive, set up a new partition in the unused space, and have my installation work fine? I'm leaning towards manually configuring the 20GB drive, used a boot disk to mount the drives and tar to trasnfer the files. Thanks! Christopher Reimer -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Danny Barnes wrote:
Oh no. Resizing An ext2fs partition is NOT a native function for PM and in fact while included, is not supported by Powerquest. PM and Drive Image are still very useful utilities for the Linux user who multiboots but I'd
Yes, with this caveat. Simply transfer all of your 6.4 gb hd to the 20gb hd
just as is leaving the rest of the 20gb empty for now. Do NOT take the
option in Drive Image "Allow partitions to use all space" as this will
change the cluster size expanding your 6.4gb worth of partitions out to
20gb, which will HOSE your linux set up. At that point boot up linux and
verify everything's aok. Then you can partition the REST of the drive as you
wish. This is essentially what I told you the 1st time and is all I can give
you. Good luck!
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From: "Christopher D. Reimer"
em' in the catagory of progressing, not perfect.
I haven't seen a clear cut answer to my question about Drive Image. (There are other solutions that I will be checking out.) Can I safely transfer the paritions of a 6.4GB to an empty 20GB drive, set up a new partition in the unused space, and have my installation work fine?
I'm leaning towards manually configuring the 20GB drive, used a boot disk to mount the drives and tar to trasnfer the files.
Thanks!
Christopher Reimer
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That's what I figured. Thanks! Christopher Reimer On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Danny Barnes wrote:
Yes, with this caveat. Simply transfer all of your 6.4 gb hd to the 20gb hd just as is leaving the rest of the 20gb empty for now. Do NOT take the option in Drive Image "Allow partitions to use all space" as this will change the cluster size expanding your 6.4gb worth of partitions out to 20gb, which will HOSE your linux set up. At that point boot up linux and verify everything's aok. Then you can partition the REST of the drive as you wish. This is essentially what I told you the 1st time and is all I can give you. Good luck!
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To: "Danny Barnes" Cc: ; Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Drive Image to transfer installation to new hard drive... On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Danny Barnes wrote:
Oh no. Resizing An ext2fs partition is NOT a native function for PM and in fact while included, is not supported by Powerquest. PM and Drive Image are still very useful utilities for the Linux user who multiboots but I'd put em' in the catagory of progressing, not perfect.
I haven't seen a clear cut answer to my question about Drive Image. (There are other solutions that I will be checking out.) Can I safely transfer the paritions of a 6.4GB to an empty 20GB drive, set up a new partition in the unused space, and have my installation work fine?
I'm leaning towards manually configuring the 20GB drive, used a boot disk to mount the drives and tar to trasnfer the files.
Thanks!
Christopher Reimer
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"Christopher D. Reimer" wrote:
I haven't seen a clear cut answer to my question about Drive Image. (There are other solutions that I will be checking out.) Can I safely transfer the paritions of a 6.4GB to an empty 20GB drive, set up a new partition in the unused space, and have my installation work fine?
I'm leaning towards manually configuring the 20GB drive, used a boot disk to mount the drives and tar to trasnfer the files.
I'm trying to tell you that cd / find . -xdev | cpio -pm /mnt/newroot works flawlessly and faster than tar. Don't forget the tiny . after find. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
I'll give it a try. Apparently, I can do it either way. Thanks! Christopher Reimer On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, zentara wrote:
"Christopher D. Reimer" wrote:
I haven't seen a clear cut answer to my question about Drive Image. (There are other solutions that I will be checking out.) Can I safely transfer the paritions of a 6.4GB to an empty 20GB drive, set up a new partition in the unused space, and have my installation work fine?
I'm leaning towards manually configuring the 20GB drive, used a boot disk to mount the drives and tar to trasnfer the files.
I'm trying to tell you that
cd / find . -xdev | cpio -pm /mnt/newroot
works flawlessly and faster than tar. Don't forget the tiny . after find.
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"Christopher D. Reimer" wrote:
Greetings!
I currently have a SuSE 6.3 installation on a 6.4GB hard drive that consists of three partitions (/boot,/swap, and /) that I would like to transfer to a new 20GB hard drive. I'm planning to use Drive Image to copy the partitions directly over to the new hard drive, and then use the unallocated space (~14GB) for a /pub partition.
I did something similar a few days back: moved from a 1GB disk to a 1.2 GB disk. ;-) (hda -> hdb) I "copied" root and swap partition to the new disk using partition magic (these were all my partitions). After that, i booted the "old" configuration. I edited /etc/lilo.conf and changed the setup to rewrite the boot sector on my "new" harddrive with the boot files from my "new" harddrive (location of lilo and root file system) With that, I had set up the second hard drive as a bootable device for the next step. The next step was to remove the old hda and rejumper the "new" one. After that I could reboot from the "new" drive. I did not change any partition size (and wonder wether that is possible with ext2 anyway) Juergen
Does Drive Image do a good job at copying the partitions (no resizing)?
Is there alternative method of preserving an established installation to a new hard drive?
Thanks!
Christopher Reimer
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"Christopher D. Reimer" wrote:
Greetings!
I currently have a SuSE 6.3 installation on a 6.4GB hard drive that consists of three partitions (/boot,/swap, and /) that I would like to transfer to a new 20GB hard drive. I'm planning to use Drive Image to copy the partitions directly over to the new hard drive, and then use the unallocated space (~14GB) for a /pub partition.
Does Drive Image do a good job at copying the partitions (no resizing)?
Is there alternative method of preserving an established installation to a new hard drive?
I just asked this in regards to raid. From the Software Raid-Howto: To copy a running root to another drive: cd / find . -xdev | cpio -pm /mnt/newroot where you mounted your empty drive on /mnt/newroot. It is better than dd, because the partitions can be different sizes. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Hi I need to have a ' caracter on the output using awk. I'm using the follow awk instruction: awk -F: '{print "hello 'a'", $1}' /etc/passwd One of the output of this command is: hello aanybody And the one that I need one like this: hello 'a' anybody Thanks <b>Hi I need to have a <font size=4>'</font> caracter on the output using awk. I'm using the follow awk instruction: </b>awk -F: '{print "hello 'a'", $1}' /etc/passwd <b>One of the output of this command is: </b>hello aanybody <b>And the one that I need one like this: </b>hello 'a' anybody Thanks
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Linux News User wrote: You were lucky that I didn't just delete your mail, as I do with almost all mail in HTML.
Hi I need to have a ' caracter on the output using awk.
I'm using the follow awk instruction:
awk -F: '{print "hello 'a'", $1}' /etc/passwd
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"Christopher D. Reimer"
Is there alternative method of preserving an established installation to a new hard drive?
~ what's wrong with "tar.gz" zipping stuff, directory by directory. .. . . then, partition the new drive. Unzip the tar.gz directory, when one wants Finally, adjust the Mount Points in /etc/fstab ? ..................... best wishes -- ____________ sent on Linux ____________ This Email is 100% Virus Free! How do I know? ~ Because no Microsoft products were used to generate it! -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
tabanna wrote:
"Christopher D. Reimer"
mused : Is there alternative method of preserving an established installation to a new hard drive?
~ what's wrong with "tar.gz" zipping stuff, directory by directory. .. . . then, partition the new drive. Unzip the tar.gz directory, when one wants Finally, adjust the Mount Points in /etc/fstab ?
I tried that once, I found that the tar program would hang on core and /proc files unless you exclude them, unless the /root system wasn't mounted when you copied it. Maybe I didn't call tar properly? -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
I have always been curious as to whether dd would work ie Unmount the drive dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/backupofhardrive and then to restore on new drive dd if=/backupofhardrive of=/dev/hda1 Aint had the guts tho :) Mike --- Michael Smith (Warlock on IRC) http://www.warlock.web.za/ "The software said Windows95 or better... ...so I got Linux" On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, zentara wrote:
tabanna wrote:
"Christopher D. Reimer"
mused : Is there alternative method of preserving an established installation to a new hard drive?
~ what's wrong with "tar.gz" zipping stuff, directory by directory. .. . . then, partition the new drive. Unzip the tar.gz directory, when one wants Finally, adjust the Mount Points in /etc/fstab ?
I tried that once, I found that the tar program would hang on core and /proc files unless you exclude them, unless the /root system wasn't mounted when you copied it. Maybe I didn't call tar properly?
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Michael Smith wrote:
I have always been curious as to whether dd would work
ie
Unmount the drive
dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/backupofhardrive
and then to restore on new drive
dd if=/backupofhardrive of=/dev/hda1
Aint had the guts tho :)
I tried it and it worked. However if the drives are not the exact same size, there will be a problem. I used dd to transfer a 660meg system from a 1 gig harddrive to an empty 20 gig drive. It looked as though it worked perfectly, until I mounted the 20gig and did a df, it said it was 70% used!!!!!!!!! -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
I use tar. There is really no need to resort to a drive image type tool even with Windows. The main issues that you need to be concerned about is if the drive is going to be bootable that you subsequently run LILO. Or, if you have a bootable Windows partition, you would need to run the Windows sys utility. "Christopher D. Reimer" wrote:
I currently have a SuSE 6.3 installation on a 6.4GB hard drive that
consists of three partitions (/boot,/swap, and /) that I would like to transfer to a new 20GB hard drive. I'm planning to use Drive Image to copy the partitions directly over to the new hard drive, and then use the unallocated space (~14GB) for a /pub partition.
Does Drive Image do a good job at copying the partitions (no resizing)?
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hi, These SCSI cards are evil ..a pain to setup ,and unreliable for things such as CD writing (they only work well with scanners i think) ..it'll be worth the extra cash for a better card for all the time and CDs you will waste.
Is anyone out there using this scsi card (Adaptec 2906 PCI). I'm getting a Yamaha scsi CDRW, and without sounding to cheap, this is the low end (affordable) of the scsi cards that Yamaha recommends, the other one is the 2940 which sells for $275.00 dollars.
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I been using Tekram 315U SCSI-2 cards ($35 USD) for my systems, and they work fine with my Teac CDR drive. Nothing fancy, but the cards work good enough. Christopher Reimer On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 adam@forensicdata.com.au wrote:
hi, These SCSI cards are evil ..a pain to setup ,and unreliable for things such as CD writing (they only work well with scanners i think) ..it'll be worth the extra cash for a better card for all the time and CDs you will waste.
Is anyone out there using this scsi card (Adaptec 2906 PCI). I'm getting a Yamaha scsi CDRW, and without sounding to cheap, this is the low end (affordable) of the scsi cards that Yamaha recommends, the other one is the 2940 which sells for $275.00 dollars.
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Michael wrote:
Is anyone out there using this scsi card (Adaptec 2906 PCI). I'm getting a Yamaha scsi CDRW, and without sounding to cheap, this is the low end (affordable) of the scsi cards that Yamaha recommends, the other one is the 2940 which sells for $275.00 dollars. The 2906 is not on the SuSE supported hardware list, but it sort of is on the RedHat 6.2 intel list. What I mean by sort of is, its listed as 29xx PCI in a long list of approved cards. RedHat 6.2 has the sme kernal 2.2.14 as SuSE 6.4 which I am running.
Thanks
Michael
The 2930u works well for me. It's less than the 2940. -- Mark Hounschell dmarkh@cfl.rr.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 06:51:48PM -0500, Mark Hounschell wrote:
Michael wrote:
Is anyone out there using this scsi card (Adaptec 2906 PCI). I'm getting a Yamaha scsi CDRW, and without sounding to cheap, this is the low end (affordable) of the scsi cards that Yamaha recommends, the other one is the 2940 which sells for $275.00 dollars. The 2906 is not on the SuSE supported hardware list, but it sort of is on the RedHat 6.2 intel list. What I mean by sort of is, its listed as 29xx PCI in a long list of approved cards. RedHat 6.2 has the sme kernal 2.2.14 as SuSE 6.4 which I am running.
Thanks
Michael
The 2930u works well for me. It's less than the 2940.
My 2940 burned out recently and I bought a 2930 at CompUSA for around $130. Works well for everything-SCSI that I have. The way I look at costs, you can go cheap and burn yourself out trying to get cheap hardware to work, or go for the moderately priced boards. I'll second the 2930. gary
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