Re: [SLE] LinNeighborhood help needed
Whoa, that was a mouth full. You lost me!
- First, I don't know what "setuid" is. Beleive it or not I can not
find a definition in the SuSE Help.
- "mc" in text-console. What's that??
Sorry, as I said I'm a very "green" beginner with Linux.
Thanks for your response.
Matt
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: jaakko tamminen
Hi
Change the /usr/bin/smbmnt to setuid, then it works. Use for example "mc" in text-console, browse onto that file, press cntrl-x-c, and set the first bit, and do save. Remember to set Yourself to root first with command "sux", and giving the root password.
Smbmount uses that program for mounting samba-shares, but smbmount can not be setuid, but smbmnt does.
Jaska.
Viestiss� Tiistai 17. Joulukuuta 2002 22:50, Matt's SuSE List kirjoitti:
I am new to Linux and am trying to get LinNeighborhood working on my Suse 8.1 system.
When I try to mount a share I get the following message...
"smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (500,500)" "smbmnt failed: 1"
I have done quite a bit of searching and reading but all the information I've found is not for a beginner (they seem to make many assumptions) or for a different Linux distribution.
Could someone walk me through this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Matt
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On Tuesday 17 December 2002 22:04, Matt Stamm wrote:
Whoa, that was a mouth full. You lost me!
- First, I don't know what "setuid" is. Beleive it or not I can not find a definition in the SuSE Help.
You'll find information about this - it's to do with permissions - by looking at the manual page for the chmod command, or for suid itself. Type: man chmod in a text-console (see below) press h in the program and it'll tell you how to use it. try: man setuid or even: man man
- "mc" in text-console. What's that??
The text console is like a DOS window [1] where you can type commands directly. If you're using KDE then there's an icon with a shell covering a monitor screen - that will bring up a terminal window (which is effectively a text console[1, again]). Alternatively, if you press ctrl-alt-f1 you'll switch to a console full screen where you can log in again (as a different user, or the same one again) and use it there. mc is the command to start MidnightCommander which is a (?) Norton-like text mode file manager, just like Konqueror (or Windo$e Explorer). Try looking at the manpage for mc...
Sorry, as I said I'm a very "green" beginner with Linux.
As were we all, once. You are most welcome. [1] OK, OK, but we don't need to go there, eh? Dylan -- "Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not, we are Between the wars"
On Tuesday 17 December 2002 16:04, Matt Stamm wrote:
Whoa, that was a mouth full. You lost me!
- First, I don't know what "setuid" is. Beleive it or not I can not find a definition in the SuSE Help.
Type "man setuid" for more information.
- "mc" in text-console. What's that??
That would be Midnight Commander. Type: "man mc" for more information. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK IGNORE FULLWISE
Hello SuSE folkz, Could somebody please recommend any good at least 64MB RAM AGP x4/x8 graphic card for Linux which supports 3D effects and 3D rendering effects. Generally I'm looking for something which will satisfy a Linux gamer needs without excessive pain in a butt to install and configure. Thank you in advance for any thoughts or considerations. Alex
Hey Alex: Learn how to post to a mailing list. Don't hijack threads and use them for something else. On Tuesday 17 December 2002 01:47 pm, Alex Daniloff wrote: To: suse-linux-e@suse.com In-Reply-To: <200212171623.12691.jvollmer@visi.com> --------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Subject: [SLE] Advise on good 3D graphic card for Linux
Hello SuSE folkz, Could somebody please recommend any good at least 64MB RAM AGP x4/x8 graphic card for Linux which supports 3D effects and 3D rendering effects. Generally I'm looking for something which will satisfy a Linux gamer needs without excessive pain in a butt to install and configure. Thank you in advance for any thoughts or considerations.
Alex
-- _________________________________________________ John Andersen / Juneau Alaska
Alex Daniloff wrote:
Hello SuSE folkz, Could somebody please recommend any good at least 64MB RAM AGP x4/x8 graphic card for Linux which supports 3D effects and 3D rendering effects. Generally I'm looking for something which will satisfy a Linux gamer needs without excessive pain in a butt to install and configure. Thank you in advance for any thoughts or considerations.
With SuSE, any nvidia is very easy to install. However, personally, I have more sympathy for ATI because of the fact that they seem to be more open to the linux community in regards to the drivers. I don't know if this is still true, because I've heard a rumour that they provide a binary only driver, lately. Is that true? Also ATI cards are slightly more expensive ($10-20) than nvidia for about the same range of power. I would chose a Radeon. -- Silviu Marin-Caea Systems Engineer Linux/Unix http://www.genesys.ro Phone +40723-267961
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
With SuSE, any nvidia is very easy to install.
Not any nvidia. My card is hopelessly unstable with nvidia's drivers. It was probably bought too cheap. It was rock-solid with nv drivers. If you go for a nvidia card, I would suggest buying a well-known brand. Regards Ole
* Ole Kofoed Hansen
With SuSE, any nvidia is very easy to install. Not any nvidia. My card is hopelessly unstable with nvidia's drivers. It was probably bought too cheap. It was rock-solid with nv drivers.
Out of curiosity, what kind of card do you have ? i've installed a dozen difefrent (types of) nvidia cards in a variety of different servers (rtanging from lowend geforce 2 MX to Quadro 4s as well as their laptop equivalents. So far, the only problem we found was running Nvidia cards in combination with a serverworks chipset (which will hopelessly crash the server *hard*. We did have a few cards that were bad (as in hardware defect), but in all cases we could swap them with the supplier (wether it was the shop around the corner or a well known reseller) for identical but properly working cards. Kind regards, -- Gerhard den Hollander Phone :+31-10.280.1515 Global IT Support manager Direct:+31-10.280.1539 Jason Geosystems BV Fax :+31-10.280.1511 (When calling please note: we are in GMT+1) gdenhollander@jasongeo.com POBox 1573 visit us at http://www.jasongeo.com 3000 BN Rotterdam JASON.......#1 in Reservoir Characterization The Netherlands This e-mail and any attachment is/are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, we request that you do not disseminate, forward, distribute or copy this e-mail message. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and destroy the original message.
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Gerhard den Hollander wrote:
* Ole Kofoed Hansen
(Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 02:39:32PM +0100) With SuSE, any nvidia is very easy to install. Not any nvidia. My card is hopelessly unstable with nvidia's drivers. It was probably bought too cheap. It was rock-solid with nv drivers.
Out of curiosity, what kind of card do you have ?
My card is a GeForce 2 MX of unknown brand.
i've installed a dozen difefrent (types of) nvidia cards in a variety of different servers (rtanging from lowend geforce 2 MX to Quadro 4s as well as their laptop equivalents.
So far, the only problem we found was running Nvidia cards in combination with a serverworks chipset (which will hopelessly crash the server *hard*.
It may have been a hardware defect in my card, but it did work fine in that other OS. It may also have something to do with my Ali chipset, although it is not one of those mentioned in nvidia's README file. Regards Ole
Op woensdag 18 december 2002 21:09, schreef Ole Kofoed Hansen:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Gerhard den Hollander wrote:
* Ole Kofoed Hansen
(Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 02:39:32PM +0100) With SuSE, any nvidia is very easy to install.
Not any nvidia. My card is hopelessly unstable with nvidia's drivers. It was probably bought too cheap. It was rock-solid with nv drivers.
Out of curiosity, what kind of card do you have ?
My card is a GeForce 2 MX of unknown brand.
To find out what brand it is, open the hardware configuration module (lower-right on the taskbar). Then choose display.
Hi Okay, let me go deeper with the explanation. setuid means, that a program gets the rights of the owner, when it is run. So, when smbmnt is owned by root, and when the setuid-bit is set, it has the same rights at root has when the program runs. Even when You run it as a "normal" user, this setuid bit tells the system, that this program can access the things root can, even if it is runned by a normal user. Setting the bit is quite easy. To open a text-console in KDE graphical desktop, press Alt-F2 keys simultaneously. System will provide You a small window when You can enter commands. Enter "xterm", and press enter. This will then open a text-console, where You can enter text-based command into system. You need to set Your self as root to be able to set those setuid-bits.. So, give system the command "sux", and press enter. System will ask for roots password. Give it, and press enter. If no error message appears, You are now acting as root. Then change to directory /usr/bin with command "cd /usr/bin", and press enter. Okay, we are ready to set the setuid-bit for both smbmnt and smbumount commands, that exist in this directory where You currently are. Give system the command "chmod 04711 smbmnt", and press enter Do the same for smbumount with "chmod 04711 smbumount". Okay, now we have changed the bits, just write "exit" and press enter, then You are back as normal user from root-shell, write "exit" and enter again, it closes the text-terminal. Now happy Linneighborhood-using... Bits are set. Jaska Viestissä Keskiviikko 18. Joulukuuta 2002 00:04, kirjoitit:
Whoa, that was a mouth full. You lost me!
- First, I don't know what "setuid" is. Beleive it or not I can not find a definition in the SuSE Help.
- "mc" in text-console. What's that??
Sorry, as I said I'm a very "green" beginner with Linux.
Thanks for your response.
Matt
---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: jaakko tamminen
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:20:48 +0200 Hi
Change the /usr/bin/smbmnt to setuid, then it works. Use for example
"mc" in
text-console, browse onto that file, press cntrl-x-c, and set the
first bit,
and do save. Remember to set Yourself to root first with command
"sux", and
giving the root password.
Smbmount uses that program for mounting samba-shares, but smbmount
can not be
setuid, but smbmnt does.
Jaska.
Viestissä Tiistai 17. Joulukuuta 2002 22:50, Matt's SuSE List
kirjoitti:
I am new to Linux and am trying to get LinNeighborhood working on
my Suse
8.1 system.
When I try to mount a share I get the following message...
"smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts
(500,500)"
"smbmnt failed: 1"
I have done quite a bit of searching and reading but all the
information
I've found is not for a beginner (they seem to make many
assumptions) or
for a different Linux distribution.
Could someone walk me through this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Matt
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Op woensdag 18 december 2002 11:28, schreef jaakko tamminen:
Hi
Okay, let me go deeper with the explanation.
setuid means, that a program gets the rights of the owner, when it is run.
So, when smbmnt is owned by root, and when the setuid-bit is set, it has the same rights at root has when the program runs. Even when You run it as a "normal" user, this setuid bit tells the system, that this program can access the things root can, even if it is runned by a normal user.
Setting the bit is quite easy.
yes it is :-)
To open a text-console in KDE graphical desktop, press Alt-F2 keys simultaneously. System will provide You a small window when You can enter commands.
Enter "xterm", and press enter. This will then open a text-console, where You can enter text-based command into system.
You need to set Your self as root to be able to set those setuid-bits.. So, give system the command "sux", and press enter.
System will ask for roots password. Give it, and press enter.
If no error message appears, You are now acting as root.
Or: click the K (start-menu) => System => File Manager - Super User Mode => (enter password for user root) => browse to /usr/bin
Then change to directory /usr/bin with command "cd /usr/bin", and press enter.
Okay, we are ready to set the setuid-bit for both smbmnt and smbumount commands, that exist in this directory where You currently are. Give system the command "chmod 04711 smbmnt", and press enter Do the same for smbumount with "chmod 04711 smbumount".
(Yes, you can do that, but now you need to explain the 04711 (or point to man chmod)) look for smbmnt and smbumount. Select and right-click these files => properties => permissions-tab => and check the suid checkbox => OK
Okay, now we have changed the bits, just write "exit" and press enter, then You are back as normal user from root-shell, write "exit" and enter again, it closes the text-terminal.
Now happy Linneighborhood-using... Bits are set.
Jaska
seriously: be very carefull to set suid (safety-wise) and learn the commandline equivalents of the point & click stuff (emergency-wise or fast-alternative-wise). cheers, Marcel
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Alex Daniloff
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Dylan
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Gerhard den Hollander
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jaakko tamminen
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Jay Vollmer
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John Andersen
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Matt Stamm
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Ole Kofoed Hansen
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Silviu Marin-Caea
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