A large retailer is offering a Seagate 250 mb backup hard drive at a fair price, including various programs for backups etc, for windows only. I know very litle about backups except copying files to a cd/dvd. How would I backup Ubuntu and other Linux's to such a drive? John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 06 July 2009 05:14:29 pm John Heinen wrote:
A large retailer is offering a Seagate 250 mb backup hard drive at a fair price, including various programs for backups etc, for windows only. I know very litle about backups except copying files to a cd/dvd. How would I backup Ubuntu and other Linux's to such a drive? John
http://linux.about.com/od/softbackup/Linux_Software_Backup_Solutions.htm Out of the ones listed on that article I would look at AMANDA or Bacula. As for the hard drive you may want to make sure you are truly getting a deal, earlier today NewEgg had a 500 GB external HDD (this one to be exact http://tinyurl.com/mntgbp) for $65 USD normal price is $79.99, note that is with Free Shipping is most US states. Hope this email helps, and if you don't find a backup solution that fits your needs you can always make one yourself, create and archive with files and directories you need and copy them to the drive or if you have enough space even use something like dd to copy the filesystem. -- "We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure." Karl Popper
John Heinen wrote:
A large retailer is offering a Seagate 250 mb backup hard drive at a fair price, including various programs for backups etc, for windows only. I know very litle about backups except copying files to a cd/dvd. How would I backup Ubuntu and other Linux's to such a drive? John
Assuming it's a USB drive, just plug it in and copy the files to it. You can use cp -a to archive your disk contents or rsync etc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 06 July 2009 22:14:29 John Heinen wrote:
A large retailer is offering a Seagate 250 mb backup hard drive at a fair price, including various programs for backups etc, for windows only. I know very litle about backups except copying files to a cd/dvd. How would I backup Ubuntu and other Linux's to such a drive? John
I'd recommend rsync, or rsnapshot, which uses rsync but makes the configuration easier. Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.1, Kernel 2.6.27.21-0.1-default, KDE 4.2.4 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9200GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:14 PM, John Heinen
A large retailer is offering a Seagate 250 mb backup hard drive at a fair price, including various programs for backups etc, for windows only. I know very litle about backups except copying files to a cd/dvd. How would I backup Ubuntu and other Linux's to such a drive? John
John, The key thing is that USB drive will almost certainly be just a USB drive, even in windows. So step one is throw away the CD with the backup software on it. You need to decide what format you want the drive to have. ie. FAT32, NTFS, EXT2, etc Current linux should have the ntfs-3g driver which is a good ntfs read/write driver. I have not heard of it causing data loss etc. for anyone (but I have not exhaustively searced for that either.) Once you get it formatted tons of options for how to backup to it. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer Preservation and Forensic processing of Exchange Repositories White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/tng_whitepaper_fpe.html The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2009-07-06 at 16:54 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:14 PM, John Heinen<> wrote:
A large retailer is offering a Seagate 250 mb backup hard drive at a fair price, including various programs for backups etc, for windows only. I know very litle about backups except copying files to a cd/dvd. How would I backup Ubuntu and other Linux's to such a drive? John
John,
The key thing is that USB drive will almost certainly be just a USB drive, even in windows.
It could be one of little boxes with an ethernet port and perhaps samba or ftp and/or some other thing that works with windows only. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpSd0wACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XS3gCghcCtjDjrfcTQYQlwSqfZQYmN hn0AnjCCZ5A3Yqq+lWJFhF5KmrN3Tm4s =89OV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Whatever you do, stay the heck away from the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 harddrives, no matter if they are 500gb, 1TB, 1.5TB, etc. I learned an expensive lesson in impatience. I've always preached to go with Western Digital and to keep a good backup. However, there I was, in Best Buy on a payday, and they happened to be out of WD, so impatiently I bought a Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB HD for $149. I took it home, dumped ALL of my archives onto the drive (years of baby pics, documents, movies, music, etc...EVERYTHING), and then began building a file/backup server on a second computer, to serve as a backup server on all computers in the house. Of course, I didn't rush to do this... Not even two weeks later, the new drive started clicking every couple seconds...so I frantically rushed to finish the backup server... Needless to say, I was too late - I started receiving S.M.A.R.T. errors on the drive, and when I attempted to copy files off of it, it would just hang the system. I sent the drive off to a data recovery center and they want $834, plus the cost of a new drive, plus tax. The moral of the story is three-fold - 1) be patient and be rewarded; 2) BACK UP YOUR JUNK! and 3) NEVER BUY SEAGATE - buy Western Digital! --James
On Monday 06 July 2009 05:14:29 pm John Heinen wrote:
A large retailer is offering a Seagate 250 mb backup hard drive at a fair price, including various programs for backups etc, for windows only. I know very litle about backups except copying files to a cd/dvd. How would I backup Ubuntu and other Linux's to such a drive? John
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Hi! Am Freitag 10 Juli 2009 16:56:35 schrieb James George:
Not even two weeks later, the new drive started clicking every couple seconds...so I frantically rushed to finish the backup server... Needless to say, I was too late - I started receiving S.M.A.R.T. errors on the drive, and when I attempted to copy files off of it, it would just hang the system. [...] The moral of the story is three-fold - 1) be patient and be rewarded; 2) BACK UP YOUR JUNK! and 3) NEVER BUY SEAGATE - buy Western Digital!
I had a WD drive die out on me after only a few (<4) months. Luckily I was able to move my files to another drive (by keeping the drive off for one week until the new drive arived). However this experience would prevent me from recommending WD over Seagate with that specific reason. Seems like sometimes its just bad luck. Regards, Matthias
Agreed. I guess the bottom line is that they just don't make 'em like they used to... --James
Hi!
BACK UP YOUR JUNK! and 3) NEVER BUY SEAGATE - buy Western Digital!
Am Freitag 10 Juli 2009 16:56:35 schrieb James George:
Not even two weeks later, the new drive started clicking every couple seconds...so I frantically rushed to finish the backup server... Needless to say, I was too late - I started receiving S.M.A.R.T. errors on the drive, and when I attempted to copy files off of it, it would just hang the system. [...] The moral of the story is three-fold - 1) be patient and be rewarded;
I had a WD drive die out on me after only a few (<4) months. Luckily I was able to move my files to another drive (by keeping the drive off for one >week until the new drive arived). However this experience would prevent me from recommending WD over Seagate with that specific reason. Seems like sometimes its just bad luck.
Regards, Matthias
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James George wrote:
Agreed. I guess the bottom line is that they just don't make 'em like they used to...
--James
No, they make them exactly like they _want_ to. Manufacturers have become increasingly good at making drives (and other stuff) that will last exactly 3 years or whatever the warranty period is. Over the last 5-6 years I must have bought 16-20 harddrives of size 40G and up - those have all died, whereas older drives size<10Gb are still holding up just fine. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2009-07-10 at 10:56 -0400, James George wrote:
Whatever you do, stay the heck away from the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 harddrives, no matter if they are 500gb, 1TB, 1.5TB, etc.
I'm using seagate drives, for years, with no problems. However, I stay away of the terabyte sizes. Even the 0.5 TB I don't trust yet. And I would not backup to a new HD and delete the original till two or three months after. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpXf/EACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XoEgCfbSq4F5nkBC/F7Yrgl7prFKeQ 9O4AnjK0Z1eTVnfkhXFAzpKtNyYWU1eX =0duJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 10:56 -0400, James George wrote:
The moral of the story is three-fold - 1) be patient and be rewarded; 2) BACK UP YOUR JUNK! and 3) NEVER BUY SEAGATE - buy Western Digital!
Can add something more.. Not only make regulary backup's, but (on a sccrath drive TEST a restore) (If that fails, you actually made backup to an /dev/null device ;-) ** Besides that, avoid Lacie. My primary backup was on a etherdisk , worked fine for a year, but suddenly stopped. Secondary backup, something else from Lacie, an usb-disk, failed next week. Could be coincidence, and their product might work perfectly for other people, by i can nut put any trust in them anymore... So i would suggest, multiple backups, not using equipment from one brand. hw ** nice true story about backups, i encoutered some years ago at my previous employer: One of their big customers were told that their IT-department should make regularly backups of their data. As their Oracle database grew considerably, a script was made to eject the tape cardridge and prompt for the next one. One year leater we found out accidentily that the operator disn't used five cardriges, used just one five times over, and stored it safely in an atomic prove safe. Just in case.... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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