I suspect this is not the best place to discuss this. Not because it won't be of interest to the list, but because there are probably lists with people who specialize in this kind of topic. I have several programs which fork (or spawn, I'm not srure what the technical term is) windows. These windows are displayed independently of the parent, and their siblings. Sometimes this is what I want, other times, It just adds to the chaos which is my desktop. A good example is Mathematica. At any given time, I may have a palette, help window, and note book opened. I usually want to switch between these windows without 'leaving' Mathematica. The same kind of thing happenes with XEmacs. I'm wondering if there is a way, perhaps through Qt, perhaps through XFree86, to 'snap' windows together. That is, to set the windows beside eachother and join them together so that Alt+Tab and other means of gaining focus select the group of windows rather than the individual window. As I was typing this up, I thought it might be nice to have a generic 'window bag'. This would be a window I could place other windows in, and they would be aranged in a collection of tabbed panels. Perhaps the real answere is to learn to work with multiple desktops. Any thoughts on these issues? STH
Hi At least in KDE there is option "focus follows mouse", that can even rise window when it gets mouse focus... By just moving mouse, window keeps popping to foreground/background, so it might be usefull... Jaska. On Wednesday 09 October 2002 20:25, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
I suspect this is not the best place to discuss this. Not because it won't be of interest to the list, but because there are probably lists with people who specialize in this kind of topic. I have several programs which fork (or spawn, I'm not srure what the technical term is) windows. These windows are displayed independently of the parent, and their siblings. Sometimes this is what I want, other times, It just adds to the chaos which is my desktop. A good example is Mathematica. At any given time, I may have a palette, help window, and note book opened. I usually want to switch between these windows without 'leaving' Mathematica. The same kind of thing happenes with XEmacs. I'm wondering if there is a way, perhaps through Qt, perhaps through XFree86, to 'snap' windows together. That is, to set the windows beside eachother and join them together so that Alt+Tab and other means of gaining focus select the group of windows rather than the individual window.
As I was typing this up, I thought it might be nice to have a generic 'window bag'. This would be a window I could place other windows in, and they would be aranged in a collection of tabbed panels.
Perhaps the real answere is to learn to work with multiple desktops.
Any thoughts on these issues?
STH
On Wednesday 09 October 2002 01:30 pm, jaakko tamminen wrote:
Hi
At least in KDE there is option "focus follows mouse", that can even rise window when it gets mouse focus...
By just moving mouse, window keeps popping to foreground/background, so it might be usefull...
Jaska.
That's actually an old CDEism. IIRC, it's the default on a Sun. Drives me crazy(ier). I'm looking for something more along the lines of how Star Office does things, with the option of detaching a window. I'm not sure all of what I'm suggesting is a good idea. At some point feature creep is evil. There *is* one place where a simple generic window bag might be useful. If I tail log files, I can watch in real time what's happening on my servers. I believe this will work for that purpose: ssh -X root@webserver -f '/usr/X11/bin/xterm -bg black -fg white -hold -e /usr/bin/tail /var/log/httpd/access_log' If I open a few of these, they become desktop clutter. I'd like to drop them in a window bag that would act as a single window on the desktop with tabs to select the individual xterms. STH
Op woensdag 9 oktober 2002 22:08, schreef Steven T. Hatton:
ssh -X root@webserver -f '/usr/X11/bin/xterm -bg black -fg white -hold -e /usr/bin/tail /var/log/httpd/access_log'
If I open a few of these, they become desktop clutter. I'd like to drop them in a window bag that would act as a single window on the desktop with tabs to select the individual xterms.
There used to a program ktail (kde-1 I believe). However, you can use konsole and tear of the toolbar containing the (shell) icons. Now you'll have the toolbar on the desktop, is that maybe something? -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
Its really a matter of personal preferences. I think it may be a good addition to a desktop environment like KDE or Gnome. But on the other hand it may take the same # of clicks to get your windows on a different desktop. If you had this feature, you would first have 3 - 4 clicks to select multiple windows, then you would select from some menu option like "Group selected Windows". Afterwards you would be able to do what you want. The alternative of multiple desktops (in my opinion) is nicer. Personally I like to use multiple desktops and alter among them using Alt-F1 - Alt F4 keys (I use KDE). One feature that is missing is starting a window in a specified desktop. I always open the windows in Desktop 1 and then right click on similar windows one by one and move them to the appropriate desktop. Does anyone know if I can have them start in a specified desktop???
Perhaps the real answere is to learn to work with multiple desktops.
FYI KDE Help Center Chapter 6. The desktop 6.6. How do I launch applications in a particular desktop? KDE comes with a program called kstart. To start Mozilla on the second desktop and then activate it use: kstart "netscape" -desktop 2 -activate. Please read kstart --help-all for more magic available with kstart (and there is an abundance). Stan Salman Khilji wrote:
Its really a matter of personal preferences. I think it may be a good addition to a desktop environment like KDE or Gnome. But on the other hand it may take the same # of clicks to get your windows on a different desktop. If you had this feature, you would first have 3 - 4 clicks to select multiple windows, then you would select from some menu option like "Group selected Windows". Afterwards you would be able to do what you want. The alternative of multiple desktops (in my opinion) is nicer.
Personally I like to use multiple desktops and alter among them using Alt-F1 - Alt F4 keys (I use KDE). One feature that is missing is starting a window in a specified desktop. I always open the windows in Desktop 1 and then right click on similar windows one by one and move them to the appropriate desktop. Does anyone know if I can have them start in a specified desktop???
Perhaps the real answere is to learn to work with multiple desktops.
Oops... Should be kstart --desktop 2 --activate "konqueror" for example. The --activate switches you to that desktop and program right away. Leave out and load up your desktops via scripts. My bad. RTFHelpFiles. Stan SRGlasoe wrote:
FYI
KDE Help Center Chapter 6. The desktop 6.6. How do I launch applications in a particular desktop?
KDE comes with a program called kstart. To start Mozilla on the second desktop and then activate it use: kstart "netscape" -desktop 2 -activate.
Please read kstart --help-all for more magic available with kstart (and there is an abundance).
Stan
Salman Khilji wrote:
Its really a matter of personal preferences. I think it may be a good addition to a desktop environment like KDE or Gnome. But on the other hand it may take the same # of clicks to get your windows on a different desktop. If you had this feature, you would first have 3 - 4 clicks to select multiple windows, then you would select from some menu option like "Group selected Windows". Afterwards you would be able to do what you want. The alternative of multiple desktops (in my opinion) is nicer.
Personally I like to use multiple desktops and alter among them using Alt-F1 - Alt F4 keys (I use KDE). One feature that is missing is starting a window in a specified desktop. I always open the windows in Desktop 1 and then right click on similar windows one by one and move them to the appropriate desktop. Does anyone know if I can have them start in a specified desktop???
Perhaps the real answere is to learn to work with multiple desktops.
On Thursday 10 October 2002 12:53 am, Salman Khilji wrote:
Its really a matter of personal preferences. I think it may be a good addition to a desktop environment like KDE or Gnome. But on the other hand it may take the same # of clicks to get your windows on a different desktop. If you had this feature, you would first have 3 - 4 clicks to select multiple windows, then you would select from some menu option like "Group selected Windows". Afterwards you would be able to do what you want. The alternative of multiple desktops (in my opinion) is nicer.
Personally I like to use multiple desktops and alter among them using Alt-F1 - Alt F4 keys (I use KDE). One feature that is missing is starting a window in a specified desktop. I always open the windows in Desktop 1 and then right click on similar windows one by one and move them to the appropriate desktop. Does anyone know if I can have them start in a specified desktop???
Perhaps the real answere is to learn to work with multiple desktops.
This is where the multiple desktop approach has its limitation. I often want to read instructions from a webpage while comparing what I see to the contents of a logfile and entering new configuration into an edit buffer. This means all these apps must be visible on the same desktop. In order for me to do this, I have to move them to the same desktop. Which defeats the purpose of having different desktops. Perhaps I simply want too much out of the windows concept. This whole thing was just a thought I had while hunting for a particular window in a particular app. STH
In gnome with enlightment, you can pan the desktop by moving the mouse. If I move the mouse "past" the right edge of the screen, another desktop appears. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson The 02.10.10 at 15:59, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
This is where the multiple desktop approach has its limitation. I often want to read instructions from a webpage while comparing what I see to the contents of a logfile and entering new configuration into an edit buffer. This means all these apps must be visible on the same desktop. In order for me to do this, I have to move them to the same desktop. Which defeats the purpose of having different desktops. Perhaps I simply want too much out of the windows concept. This whole thing was just a thought I had while hunting for a particular window in a particular app.
STH
Op donderdag 10 oktober 2002 21:59, schreef Steven T. Hatton:
Personally I like to use multiple desktops and alter among them using Alt-F1 - Alt F4 keys (I use KDE). One feature that is missing is starting a window in a specified desktop. I always open the windows in Desktop 1 and then right click on similar windows one by one and move them to the appropriate desktop. Does anyone know if I can have them start in a specified desktop???
Use kstart with --desktop <number> (or with --help for more info ;) Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2002 18:04, schreef Carlos E. R.:
In gnome with enlightment, you can pan the desktop by moving the mouse. If I move the mouse "past" the right edge of the screen, another desktop appears.
Same thing is possible in kde, although it is switch off by default. It can be switch on via kcontrol (kde control center -> look and feel -> window behaviour -> advanced -> active desktop borders). -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
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