The 12 th has come and gone????????????

Steven T. Hatton

13 Feb 2001 13 Feb '01

08:08

Where is it. I went to the www.suse.com http://www.suse.com/us/products/index.html SuSE shop, and they still have 7.0. I want my SuSE 7.1! :-( Steve

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Herman Knief

13 Feb 13 Feb

14:12

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Of course the US site is always the last to be updated, but several parts of the German site (with English text) have the date moved out to the 19th... even then, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Once they start shipping in Europe, it then usually takes about two weeks before any copies start showing up in the US (IMHO) - Herman "Steven T. Hatton" wrote:

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Where is it. I went to the www.suse.com http://www.suse.com/us/products/index.html SuSE shop, and they still have 7.0. I want my SuSE 7.1!

:-(

Steve

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jfweber＠eternal.net

22:17

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**strings of ones and zeros arranged themselves into a message from "Steven T. Hatton" on Tue, 13 Feb 2001 03:08:38 -0500 which said... **Where is it. I went to the www.suse.com **http://www.suse.com/us/products/index.html **SuSE shop, and they still have 7.0. I want my SuSE 7.1! ** **:-( w/ any luck at all, they've already shipped that box to moi! <VBG> j afterthought: I couldn't repair your brakes so I made your HORN louder.

Jay Migliaccio

16 Feb 16 Feb

19:18

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* Steven T. Hatton (hattons@bellatlantic.net) [010213 00:08]:

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Where is it. I went to the www.suse.com http://www.suse.com/us/products/index.html SuSE shop, and they still have 7.0. I want my SuSE 7.1!

We are working on it! The boxes have made it thru customs (sigh of releif..) and the web site will be updated soon. Sorry for the delay, and thanks for your patience. PS: I have been beta testing 7.1 and it looks really good. PPS: Do not forget that the runlevels have changed in 7.1, so we can be even more LSB compliant!

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:-(

Steve

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jfweber＠eternal.net

15:13

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**strings of ones and zeros arranged themselves into a message from Jay Migliaccio on Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:18:46 -0800 which said... **PPS: Do not forget that the runlevels have changed in 7.1, so we can **be even more LSB compliant! JAy, does this mean you would suggest a "clean" install rather than an "Update"? ( yet another reason to keep os and apps on seperate logical partitions (g) j afterthought: Just when your ship comes in, it's the Kobyashi Maru

Steven T. Hatton

21:15

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On Friday 16 February 2001 10:13, jfweber@eternal.net wrote:

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**strings of ones and zeros arranged themselves into a message from Jay Migliaccio on Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:18:46 -0800 which said...

**PPS: Do not forget that the runlevels have changed in 7.1, so we can **be even more LSB compliant!

JAy, does this mean you would suggest a "clean" install rather than an "Update"? ( yet another reason to keep os and apps on seperate logical partitions (g)

j

afterthought: Just when your ship comes in, it's the Kobyashi Maru J,

If SuSE has done their standard excellent job, you will not have to do a "clean" installation as long as you don't do the things I typically do to a system. If your system configuration has been maintained by using YaST it will probably be quite easy. Be sure you check for any email messages sent to root by YaST, and also keep an eye on /var/adm/inst-log. I have traditionally ignored these and I am learning that this is a bad idea. If you do want to blow away the system and start clean be sure to back up /etc. You would do will to also get /usr/X11R6. I often find myself remembering after the fact that, 'oh yea, I changed that.' Most configurations are stored in the /etc directory. I'm not sure how demanding the LSB http://www.freestandards.org/ is regarding this, but as I remember, it strongly encourages all configuration stuff to be stored in /etc/<app-dir>. Also be sure you get all the /root/.* and /home/<user-name>/.* stuff. As regards partitioning, the best advice I ever received was to keep var in it's own partition, and / should be big enough to handle a hefty core dump. Thanks Nelson Brown. I like to have boot in it's own partition as well. Unfortunately when running on intel platforms we only get 4 real partitions per hard drive. I have two hard drives in most of my systems so this isn't too difficult to get around. On sparc systems we get 7 partitions per disk to play with. I find this much more convenient. Steve

Matthew

22:02

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Wow thanks for the advice Steve. On my server those partitions would be best, but for my workstation this will be more "interesting" as I have tinkered with it a lot...So maybe I should have put /home on its own partition (wish I did now). Matt On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Steven T. Hatton wrote:

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On Friday 16 February 2001 10:13, jfweber@eternal.net wrote:

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**strings of ones and zeros arranged themselves into a message from Jay Migliaccio on Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:18:46 -0800 which said...

**PPS: Do not forget that the runlevels have changed in 7.1, so we can **be even more LSB compliant!

JAy, does this mean you would suggest a "clean" install rather than an "Update"? ( yet another reason to keep os and apps on seperate logical partitions (g)

j

afterthought: Just when your ship comes in, it's the Kobyashi Maru J,

If SuSE has done their standard excellent job, you will not have to do a "clean" installation as long as you don't do the things I typically do to a system. If your system configuration has been maintained by using YaST it will probably be quite easy. Be sure you check for any email messages sent to root by YaST, and also keep an eye on /var/adm/inst-log. I have traditionally ignored these and I am learning that this is a bad idea.

If you do want to blow away the system and start clean be sure to back up /etc. You would do will to also get /usr/X11R6. I often find myself remembering after the fact that, 'oh yea, I changed that.' Most configurations are stored in the /etc directory. I'm not sure how demanding the LSB http://www.freestandards.org/ is regarding this, but as I remember, it strongly encourages all configuration stuff to be stored in /etc/<app-dir>. Also be sure you get all the /root/.* and /home/<user-name>/.* stuff.

As regards partitioning, the best advice I ever received was to keep var in it's own partition, and / should be big enough to handle a hefty core dump. Thanks Nelson Brown. I like to have boot in it's own partition as well. Unfortunately when running on intel platforms we only get 4 real partitions per hard drive. I have two hard drives in most of my systems so this isn't too difficult to get around. On sparc systems we get 7 partitions per disk to play with. I find this much more convenient.

Steve

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Matthew

20:35

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Run levels have changed? Does that mean chkconfig is in there now? What sort of run level? :-) I think its great of SuSE to follow the LSB, even though they had to change. Matt On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Jay Migliaccio wrote:

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* Steven T. Hatton (hattons@bellatlantic.net) [010213 00:08]:

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Where is it. I went to the www.suse.com http://www.suse.com/us/products/index.html SuSE shop, and they still have 7.0. I want my SuSE 7.1!

We are working on it! The boxes have made it thru customs (sigh of releif..) and the web site will be updated soon.

Sorry for the delay, and thanks for your patience.

PS: I have been beta testing 7.1 and it looks really good.

PPS: Do not forget that the runlevels have changed in 7.1, so we can be even more LSB compliant!

...
:-(

Steve

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Michael Hasenstein

21:09

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Matthew wrote:

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Run levels have changed? Does that mean chkconfig is in there now? What sort of run level? :-)

I think its great of SuSE to follow the LSB, even though they had to change.

"to follow the LSB"??? 7.1 is BY FAR the most-lsb distro on the planet! We took everything that's there for lsb so far and out it in. That's one of the reasons (apart from supporting two very different kernels) why this is a major new release. There are some unnamed other parties that will have to have some major changes for lsb compliance... www.linuxbase.org, by the way -- Michael Hasenstein SuSE Linux AG, Nuernberg (Germany) SuSE Inc., Oakland, California (US)

Matthew

21:54

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Thanks for the link, found the section I needed to find: Run Levels 0 halt 1 single user mode 2 multiuser with no remote networking 3 normal/full multiuser 4 reserved for local use, default is normal/full multiuser 5 xdm or equivalent 6 reboot Noted the changes, nothing too bad, but I may well re-install the server when I get my disks sometime (depending on shipper). Just need to save the named.conf and named zones, real pain to reconfigure again. Quite excited to recieve this product soon! This is like xmas, feel so tempted to ask too much, but that may spoil some of the surprise. 7.0 was the most complient...As for the others...Ouch. Matt On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Michael Hasenstein wrote:

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Matthew wrote:

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Run levels have changed? Does that mean chkconfig is in there now? What sort of run level? :-)

I think its great of SuSE to follow the LSB, even though they had to change.

"to follow the LSB"??? 7.1 is BY FAR the most-lsb distro on the planet! We took everything that's there for lsb so far and out it in. That's one of the reasons (apart from supporting two very different kernels) why this is a major new release.

There are some unnamed other parties that will have to have some major changes for lsb compliance...

www.linuxbase.org, by the way

-- Michael Hasenstein SuSE Linux AG, Nuernberg (Germany) SuSE Inc., Oakland, California (US)

Lenz Grimmer

21 Feb 21 Feb

11:53

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On Fri, Feb 16, Matthew wrote:

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Run levels have changed? Does that mean chkconfig is in there now? What sort of run level? :-)

The init scripts are now located in /etc/init.d, not /sbin/init.d. The symlinks that define the run levels are no longer part of the RPM, they are generated on the fly by "insserv", which can be compared to chkconfig. It even comes with a man page :) Of course it can also be used to disable a script on bootup, but this is easier done using the usual START_xxx variables in rc.config (which can now be edited with YaST2 as well).

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I think its great of SuSE to follow the LSB, even though they had to change.

Yes, old time SuSE users will have to get used to some changes. But they were required to follow the LSB spec, which is finally nearing the first level of completion (I will be attending an LSB meeting in Ft. Lauderdale next week to work on the final issues). Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer/ 90443 Nuernberg, Germany The graveyards are full of indispensable people.

Steven T. Hatton

16 Feb 16 Feb

21:27

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On Friday 16 February 2001 14:18, Jay Migliaccio wrote:

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* Steven T. Hatton (hattons@bellatlantic.net) [010213 00:08]:

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Where is it. I went to the www.suse.com http://www.suse.com/us/products/index.html SuSE shop, and they still have 7.0. I want my SuSE 7.1!

We are working on it! The boxes have made it thru customs (sigh of releif..) and the web site will be updated soon.

Sorry for the delay, and thanks for your patience.

PS: I have been beta testing 7.1 and it looks really good.

PPS: Do not forget that the runlevels have changed in 7.1, so we can be even more LSB compliant!

I've been hitting shift + reload for hours now............ ;-) Steve

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