9.3 arrived yesterday, and outside of not syncing with my Palm, there's no show stoppers......yet. However, it's obvious that there's still a LOT of work to be done with laptops and wireless!! I am in hopes someone can help me with this, as it's URGENT. The unit is a Gateway 2.8Ghz with 80GB drive......nice unit that's been running XP Home Edition. 9.3 IS noticeably FASTER by the way. It has a Broadcom BCM4306 80211 b/g wireless chipset and Rioworks BCM4401 100 Bast-T ethernet. Even though 9.3 CAN see the wireless, I CAN'T auto detect, and of course, there's no selection on the short list for that chipset. The ethernet setup looks good, but I can't get DNS. I had thought if I could get that working, just maybe an update would help get wireless working. Does anyone have any assistance with this........VERY, VERY, VERY important to get wireless working! It COULD lead to a LOT of SUSE installs and business!! Thanks!! Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 10:04 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
9.3 arrived yesterday, and outside of not syncing with my Palm, there's no show stoppers......yet. However, it's obvious that there's still a LOT of work to be done with laptops and wireless!!
I am in hopes someone can help me with this, as it's URGENT. The unit is a Gateway 2.8Ghz with 80GB drive......nice unit that's been running XP Home Edition. 9.3 IS noticeably FASTER by the way. It has a Broadcom BCM4306 80211 b/g wireless chipset and Rioworks BCM4401 100 Bast-T ethernet. Even though 9.3 CAN see the wireless,
What indicates that 9.3 sees the wireless?
I CAN'T auto detect, and of course, there's no selection on the short list for that chipset. The ethernet setup looks good, but I can't get DNS. I had thought if I could get that working, just maybe an update would help get wireless working. Does anyone have any assistance with this........VERY, VERY, VERY important to get wireless working! It COULD lead to a LOT of SUSE installs and business!!
You may need to use ndiswrapper, works quite well and is easy to setup. docs are under /usr/share/doc/packages/ndiswrapper. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Thu April 21 2005 10:25 am, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 10:04 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
9.3 arrived yesterday, and outside of not syncing with my Palm, there's no show stoppers......yet. However, it's obvious that there's still a LOT of work to be done with laptops and wireless!!
I am in hopes someone can help me with this, as it's URGENT. The unit is a Gateway 2.8Ghz with 80GB drive......nice unit that's been running XP Home Edition. 9.3 IS noticeably FASTER by the way. It has a Broadcom BCM4306 80211 b/g wireless chipset and Rioworks BCM4401 100 Bast-T ethernet. Even though 9.3 CAN see the wireless,
What indicates that 9.3 sees the wireless?
Hardware info. lists it.
I CAN'T auto detect, and of course, there's no selection on the short list for that chipset. The ethernet setup looks good, but I can't get DNS. I had thought if I could get that working, just maybe an update would help get wireless working. Does anyone have any assistance with this........VERY, VERY, VERY important to get wireless working! It COULD lead to a LOT of SUSE installs and business!!
You may need to use ndiswrapper, works quite well and is easy to setup. docs are under /usr/share/doc/packages/ndiswrapper.
Thanks......I'll take a look. 'Still doesn't change the fact that we're still "not there" yet to "bump" MickySoft off their thrown. Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 11:10 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 10:25 am, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 10:04 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
9.3 arrived yesterday, and outside of not syncing with my Palm, there's no show stoppers......yet. However, it's obvious that there's still a LOT of work to be done with laptops and wireless!!
I am in hopes someone can help me with this, as it's URGENT. The unit is a Gateway 2.8Ghz with 80GB drive......nice unit that's been running XP Home Edition. 9.3 IS noticeably FASTER by the way. It has a Broadcom BCM4306 80211 b/g wireless chipset and Rioworks BCM4401 100 Bast-T ethernet. Even though 9.3 CAN see the wireless,
What indicates that 9.3 sees the wireless?
Hardware info. lists it.
Just because it is in the hardware list does not mean a driver is loaded (may not even be available). I have a laptop with a modem that is detected but there is no driver for it.
Thanks......I'll take a look. 'Still doesn't change the fact that we're still "not there" yet to "bump" MickySoft off their thrown. (throne)
-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Thu April 21 2005 11:27 am, Ken Schneider wrote:
Hardware info. lists it.
Just because it is in the hardware list does not mean a driver is loaded (may not even be available). I have a laptop with a modem that is detected but there is no driver for it.
Thanks......I'll take a look. 'Still doesn't change the fact that we're still "not there" yet to "bump" MickySoft off their thrown. (throne)
I answered a question....."how" did I know SUSE knew about the hardware. Simply answer is that it CAN see it. My complaint is that , so far, there's no driver for it and there SHOULD BE! Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
On Thu April 21 2005 2:57 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 20:56, Fred A. Miller wrote:
My complaint is that , so far, there's no driver for it and there SHOULD BE!
Don't tell us, tell Rioworks
I'll be doing that, but there STILL SHOULD be drivers!! If I can't resolve this by Monday, XP goes back on the box, and the potential for a LOT of new SUSE laptops and desktops goes in the toilet. I bragged up SUSE - a challenge was issued. 'Looks like I and SUSE are going to loose BIG TIME. Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
On Thursday 21 April 2005 21:16, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 2:57 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 20:56, Fred A. Miller wrote:
My complaint is that , so far, there's no driver for it and there SHOULD BE!
Don't tell us, tell Rioworks
I'll be doing that, but there STILL SHOULD be drivers!! If I can't resolve this by Monday, XP goes back on the box, and the potential for a LOT of new SUSE laptops and desktops goes in the toilet. I bragged up SUSE - a challenge was issued. 'Looks like I and SUSE are going to loose BIG TIME.
Try ndiswrapper, as was mentioned, before you give up. I know from first hand experience, if you have a card it supports, it's a very easy and smooth install, and so far it works flawlessly
On Thu April 21 2005 3:29 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
I'll be doing that, but there STILL SHOULD be drivers!! If I can't resolve this by Monday, XP goes back on the box, and the potential for a LOT of new SUSE laptops and desktops goes in the toilet. I bragged up SUSE - a challenge was issued. 'Looks like I and SUSE are going to loose BIG TIME.
Try ndiswrapper, as was mentioned, before you give up. I know from first hand experience, if you have a card it supports, it's a very easy and smooth install, and so far it works flawlessly
Or, have him buy a USB WIFI.......haven't priced them so don't know how expensive they are or what make and model works well. Thanks, Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 03:16:00PM -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 2:57 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 20:56, Fred A. Miller wrote:
My complaint is that , so far, there's no driver for it and there SHOULD BE!
Don't tell us, tell Rioworks
I'll be doing that, but there STILL SHOULD be drivers!! If I can't resolve this by Monday, XP goes back on the box, and the potential for a LOT of new SUSE laptops and desktops goes in the toilet. I bragged up SUSE - a challenge was issued. 'Looks like I and SUSE are going to loose BIG TIME.
You have the source code for the Kernel, either make your own driver, or ask the hardware man to make one for Linux. Either way, quit blaming SUSE for something they have no control over.
Fred
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On Thu April 21 2005 4:40 pm, Allen wrote:
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 03:16:00PM -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 2:57 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 20:56, Fred A. Miller wrote:
My complaint is that , so far, there's no driver for it and there SHOULD BE!
Don't tell us, tell Rioworks
I'll be doing that, but there STILL SHOULD be drivers!! If I can't resolve this by Monday, XP goes back on the box, and the potential for a LOT of new SUSE laptops and desktops goes in the toilet. I bragged up SUSE - a challenge was issued. 'Looks like I and SUSE are going to loose BIG TIME.
You have the source code for the Kernel, either make your own driver, or ask the hardware man to make one for Linux. Either way, quit blaming SUSE for something they have no control over.
Sure - right Allen, WRONG answer!! Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 18:27 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 4:40 pm, Allen wrote:
You have the source code for the Kernel, either make your own driver, or ask the hardware man to make one for Linux. Either way, quit blaming SUSE for something they have no control over.
Sure - right Allen, WRONG answer!!
No Fred, just not the answer you wanted. SuSE is -NOT- the party to blame for hardware makers -NOT- supplying drivers for their hardware. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Thu April 21 2005 6:50 pm, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 18:27 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 4:40 pm, Allen wrote:
You have the source code for the Kernel, either make your own driver, or ask the hardware man to make one for Linux. Either way, quit blaming SUSE for something they have no control over.
Sure - right Allen, WRONG answer!!
No Fred, just not the answer you wanted. SuSE is -NOT- the party to blame for hardware makers -NOT- supplying drivers for their hardware.
And, that argument continues to fall on deaf ears. OEMs don't want to hear and most 'Bloze users who want to dump MickySoft don't either. Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 19:19 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 6:50 pm, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 18:27 -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 4:40 pm, Allen wrote:
You have the source code for the Kernel, either make your own driver, or ask the hardware man to make one for Linux. Either way, quit blaming SUSE for something they have no control over.
Sure - right Allen, WRONG answer!!
No Fred, just not the answer you wanted. SuSE is -NOT- the party to blame for hardware makers -NOT- supplying drivers for their hardware.
And, that argument continues to fall on deaf ears. OEMs don't want to hear and most 'Bloze users who want to dump MickySoft don't either.
Should have finished it. -NOT- supplying drivers for their hardware, for linux, when they supply them for M$. As was pointed out by Anders and myself try the ndiswrapper, I use it without any problems with my laptop. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Thursday 21 April 2005 12:16, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 2:57 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 20:56, Fred A. Miller wrote:
My complaint is that , so far, there's no driver for it and there SHOULD BE!
Don't tell us, tell Rioworks
I'll be doing that, but there STILL SHOULD be drivers!! If I can't resolve this by Monday, XP goes back on the box, and the potential for a LOT of new SUSE laptops and desktops goes in the toilet. I bragged up SUSE - a challenge was issued. 'Looks like I and SUSE are going to loose BIG TIME.
This is sad. Jerome
Fred
On Thu April 21 2005 4:50 pm, Susemail wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 12:16, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 2:57 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 20:56, Fred A. Miller wrote:
My complaint is that , so far, there's no driver for it and there SHOULD BE!
Don't tell us, tell Rioworks
I'll be doing that, but there STILL SHOULD be drivers!! If I can't resolve this by Monday, XP goes back on the box, and the potential for a LOT of new SUSE laptops and desktops goes in the toilet. I bragged up SUSE - a challenge was issued. 'Looks like I and SUSE are going to loose BIG TIME.
This is sad.
Yes it is.......'not just the number of boxes sold, but the PR on a VERY large campus.....assuming it still won't get on the Net. by Monday night. Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
On Thursday 21 April 2005 06:29 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:
This is sad.
Yes it is.......'not just the number of boxes sold, but the PR on a VERY large campus.....assuming it still won't get on the Net. by Monday night.
Mayhaps someone over extended their belief in the distro without anything to back it up? That wouldn't be SUSE's fault either. What were you thinking?
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 18:47 -0400, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 06:29 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:
This is sad.
Yes it is.......'not just the number of boxes sold, but the PR on a VERY large campus.....assuming it still won't get on the Net. by Monday night.
Mayhaps someone over extended their belief in the distro without anything to back it up? That wouldn't be SUSE's fault either. What were you thinking?
Why not promise that SuSE can launch someone to the moon and then blame SuSE when it does not/cannot happen. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Friday 22 April 2005 00:52, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 18:47 -0400, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 06:29 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:
This is sad.
Yes it is.......'not just the number of boxes sold, but the PR on a VERY large campus.....assuming it still won't get on the Net. by Monday night.
Mayhaps someone over extended their belief in the distro without anything to back it up? That wouldn't be SUSE's fault either. What were you thinking?
Why not promise that SuSE can launch someone to the moon and then blame SuSE when it does not/cannot happen.
Could we at least see if it works with ndiswrapper before we announce the imminent demise of the distribution?
On Thu April 21 2005 7:00 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
Why not promise that SuSE can launch someone to the moon and then blame SuSE when it does not/cannot happen.
Could we at least see if it works with ndiswrapper before we announce the imminent demise of the distribution?
As soon as I can get my hands on MickySoft drivers AND get with the laptop, I'll try it. Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
On Thursday 21 April 2005 07:28 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 7:00 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
Why not promise that SuSE can launch someone to the moon and then blame SuSE when it does not/cannot happen.
Could we at least see if it works with ndiswrapper before we announce the imminent demise of the distribution?
As soon as I can get my hands on MickySoft drivers AND get with the laptop, I'll try it.
Fred
Contrast your experience with mine.... (on 9.2) I had never done a wireless connection in my life but I took my IBM X30 laptop over to a friend's house to show him linux. While we were playing with it, I brought up firefox and was amazed that I was connected through his wireless router.... with NO SETUP WHATEVER. I am still amazed at that.
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 07:28:24PM -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 7:00 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
Why not promise that SuSE can launch someone to the moon and then blame SuSE when it does not/cannot happen.
Could we at least see if it works with ndiswrapper before we announce the imminent demise of the distribution?
As soon as I can get my hands on MickySoft drivers AND get with the laptop, I'll try it.
Yea, because your half wit hardware vendor MADE DRIVERS FOR WINDOWS right? Why don't you send them an email? Just copy and paste your whining from here on the list, and send it to them letting them know how you just blamed an OS for not having proprietery drivers for one of their cards. If SUSE gave you drivers for that damned card they risk legal troubles. This is kind of like you shooting yourself in the leg with an arrow and b laming the bow because you can't aim. Hell, with your way of thinking, my pencil is the reason I mispell something and my fork is the reason I'm big. Heh, still kind of laughing about this. Your vendor makes drivers for Windows and not for Linux and somehow in your head you have it worked out that it's Novell's fault your vendor sucks.
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Wireless cards are cheap. Quit whining about the one you have not being supported and get one that is. I have a Netgear WG511 that works just fine with SuSE 9.3. Michael -- San Francisco, CA
On Thu April 21 2005 7:17 pm, Michael Nelson wrote:
Wireless cards are cheap. Quit whining about the one you have not being supported and get one that is. I have a Netgear WG511 that works just fine with SuSE 9.3.
It's a laptop.......he DOESN'T want it "broke into." Read my mail and you'd known it wasn't a desktop. If it was, I'd fixed the sucker yesterday and probably never said a word! Fred -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
Fred, On Thursday 21 April 2005 12:16, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Thu April 21 2005 2:57 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 20:56, Fred A. Miller wrote:
My complaint is that , so far, there's no driver for it and there SHOULD BE!
Don't tell us, tell Rioworks
I'll be doing that, but there STILL SHOULD be drivers!! If I can't resolve this by Monday, XP goes back on the box, and the potential for a LOT of new SUSE laptops and desktops goes in the toilet. I bragged up SUSE - a challenge was issued. 'Looks like I and SUSE are going to loose BIG TIME.
Yeah. SuSE's probably done for now, without your support. You shouldn't have bragged without investigating whether the hardware you wanted to use would be supported, or at least would work.
Fred
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