[opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type? Sounds easy doesn't it. I tried cp -a * members but that of course includes members. I suppose I want to say 'copy everything in the nonmembers folder that was there before I made the members folder to the members folder'. If I had a gui I would simply drag and drop. Thanks. Lynn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm wrote:
I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type? Sounds easy doesn't it. I tried cp -a * members but that of course includes members. I suppose I want to say 'copy everything in the nonmembers folder that was there before I made the members folder to the members folder'. If I had a gui I would simply drag and drop.
Thanks. Lynn.
you forgot to put the source and destination directory in the command i believe is the problem. try cp <source directory>* <receiving directory> something like that, see man cp for exact syntax -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 8/31/07, primm
I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type? Sounds easy doesn't it. I tried cp -a * members but that of course includes members. I suppose I want to say 'copy everything in the nonmembers folder that was there before I made the members folder to the members folder'. If I had a gui I would simply drag and drop.
Thanks. Lynn.
A simple way that may work: cd nonmembers ls | grep -v members > /tmp/filelist cp -a `cat /tmp/filelist` members But I would expect the cp command line to be too long. try echo cp -a `cat /tmp/filelist` members and see if it ends with members. If not, you could replace it with a while loop the reads from /tmp/filelist one filename at a time. I don't remember the syntax offhand for that. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm wrote:
I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type? Sounds easy doesn't it. I tried cp -a * members but that of course includes members. I suppose I want to say 'copy everything in the nonmembers folder that was there before I made the members folder to the members folder'. If I had a gui I would simply drag and drop.
mv * members/ cd members cp * .. It's ugly but it works Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 01 September 2007 00:41:31 primm wrote:
I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type? Sounds easy doesn't it. I tried cp -a * members but that of course includes members. I suppose I want to say 'copy everything in the nonmembers folder that was there before I made the members folder to the members folder'. If I had a gui I would simply drag and drop.
The quickie way would be to do export GLOBIGNORE=members and then do "cp -a * members" again Another quickie would be to name it .members while you're copying, since * doesn't include files that start with a dot Beyond that we're into regular expressions, and then it starts getting messy :) Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 01 September 2007 01:04, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 01 September 2007 00:41:31 primm wrote:
I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type? Sounds easy doesn't it. I tried cp -a * members but that of course includes members. I suppose I want to say 'copy everything in the nonmembers folder that was there before I made the members folder to the members folder'. If I had a gui I would simply drag and drop.
The quickie way would be to do
export GLOBIGNORE=members
and then do "cp -a * members" again
Another quickie would be to name it .members while you're copying, since * doesn't include files that start with a dot
Beyond that we're into regular expressions, and then it starts getting messy :)
Anders
Thanks everyone. It was the dot that did it. Have one on me. Love from Lynn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type? Sounds easy doesn't it. I tried cp -a * members but that of course includes members. I suppose I want to say 'copy everything in the nonmembers folder that was there before I made the members folder to the members folder'. If I had a gui I would simply drag and drop.
Thanks. Lynn.
Hmm... The default behaviour of cp is not to copy directories unless you explicitly use the -R -r or -a options. However, -a is equivalent to - -dpPR so if you use -dpP you should avoid the recursion implicit in -a. Check info cp ... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2KB3asN0sSnLmgIRAuGFAKDa52q0si+3s/hTibnQ1rjgh/2Q8ACgsNpL rOp0p3jMzu3MrGdhPh96ALo= =TVbD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2007/09/01 00:41 (GMT+0200) primm apparently typed:
I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type? Sounds easy doesn't it. I tried cp -a * members but that of course includes members. I suppose I want to say 'copy everything in the nonmembers folder that was there before I made the members folder to the members folder'. If I had a gui I would simply drag and drop.
The others' answers got you by, but consider for the future another option - a text mode OFM, or shell. Most behave similar to a GUI in having 2 opposing panes, so that you can copy or move between panes (directories) with a minimum of keystrokes, or even with a mouse. They can even be run in X. Konsole includes in its main menu the one most Linux OFM users use: MC (Midnight Commander). It's in the standard repos if not already installed. -- " It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible." George Washington Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 1 2007 00:41, primm wrote:
I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type?
rsync -AHPSXav --exclude=members * members/;
Sounds easy doesn't it.
Indeed, I am not sure why everyone tries to use cp, ls, grep and pipes. Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Sep 1 2007 00:41, primm wrote:
I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type?
rsync -AHPSXav --exclude=members * members/;
Sounds easy doesn't it.
Indeed, I am not sure why everyone tries to use cp, ls, grep and pipes.
Jan
Indeed (now rsync as well)... when... cp -dpP * members will actually do the required job...( I did test it after I wondered why everyone was missing the obvious :-) ) I know there are apparently 39 ways to skin a cat but I wonder if we can collectively beat this on methods to copy of a directory contents to a sub-directory of that directory :-) The more obtuse the better :-) - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2RyYasN0sSnLmgIRAqf0AJ4qsgbz793TPHOD3ZRVxk7gEq26GQCgsb8U 2y5vvJNXI4w4t8NhJe1k1JI= =4tOP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 1 2007 09:02, G T Smith wrote:
nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type?
rsync -AHPSXav --exclude=members * members/;
Sounds easy doesn't it.
Indeed, I am not sure why everyone tries to use cp, ls, grep and pipes.
Indeed (now rsync as well)...
when...
cp -dpP * members
will actually do the required job...( I did test it after I wondered why everyone was missing the obvious :-) )
That certainly does not work. 10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > mkdir 100 200 300 400 10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > touch 100/100 200/200 300/300 400/400 10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > md members 10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > cp -Pdp * members /bin/cp: omitting directory `100' /bin/cp: omitting directory `200' /bin/cp: omitting directory `300' /bin/cp: omitting directory `400' /bin/cp: omitting directory `members' Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 01 September 2007 10:13:51 Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 1 2007 09:02, G T Smith wrote:
nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type?
rsync -AHPSXav --exclude=members * members/;
Sounds easy doesn't it.
Indeed, I am not sure why everyone tries to use cp, ls, grep and pipes.
Indeed (now rsync as well)...
when...
cp -dpP * members
will actually do the required job...( I did test it after I wondered why everyone was missing the obvious :-) )
That certainly does not work.
10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > mkdir 100 200 300 400 10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > touch 100/100 200/200 300/300 400/400 10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > md members 10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > cp -Pdp * members /bin/cp: omitting directory `100' /bin/cp: omitting directory `200' /bin/cp: omitting directory `300' /bin/cp: omitting directory `400' /bin/cp: omitting directory `members'
shopt -s extglob cp !(members) nonmembers/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 1 2007 09:02, G T Smith wrote:
nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type? rsync -AHPSXav --exclude=members * members/;
Sounds easy doesn't it. Indeed, I am not sure why everyone tries to use cp, ls, grep and pipes. Indeed (now rsync as well)...
when...
cp -dpP * members
will actually do the required job...( I did test it after I wondered why everyone was missing the obvious :-) )
That certainly does not work.
10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > mkdir 100 200 300 400 10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > touch 100/100 200/200 300/300 400/400 10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > md members 10:14 ichi:../home/nonmembers > cp -Pdp * members /bin/cp: omitting directory `100' /bin/cp: omitting directory `200' /bin/cp: omitting directory `300' /bin/cp: omitting directory `400' /bin/cp: omitting directory `members'
Jan
I missed the folders part in OP which was why I was a bit puzzled by the complexity of some of responses.. but cp -a [!m]* members;cp -dpP m* members will work if members is the only directory with an m at the beginning, in the copied tree. Another posters suggestion of mv members .members; cp -a * .members; mv .members members is definitely neater if this is not the case... :-) and almost certainly deals with the possibility that there is another members subfolder or file in the copied tree... which I am not entirely certain your option will handle... All the other alternatives offered worked with the standard cli tools.. IMHO This is one of the few occasions where a GUI or CUI such as mc or YTREE is more effective than than the CLI - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2TS4asN0sSnLmgIRApOhAKDoMP/EkOKBIQQYFALSjpqJYwk6yQCgrIta eBHF2jG2R47dM76PnMNYEEg= =vIxz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi everyone. I've learned a lot by this thread. The way to go for novice webmistresses seems to be mc (what an amazing piece of kit- thanks to whoever suggested it) or rsync. I used rsync out of desperation. Just out of interest, how many of you guys who replied are hobbyists and how many are real admins (as in you earn a living from administering Linux servers)? Love from Lynn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 01 September 2007 17:51:40 primm wrote:
Hi everyone.
I've learned a lot by this thread.
The way to go for novice webmistresses seems to be mc (what an amazing piece of kit- thanks to whoever suggested it) or rsync.
I used rsync out of desperation.
Did I miss something? I thought you said you used the idea of naming the directory with a dot rsync isn't bad, but I would call it serious overkill in this scenario. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 September 2007 02:07, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 01 September 2007 17:51:40 primm wrote:
Hi everyone.
I've learned a lot by this thread.
The way to go for novice webmistresses seems to be mc (what an amazing piece of kit- thanks to whoever suggested it) or rsync.
I used rsync out of desperation.
Did I miss something? I thought you said you used the idea of naming the directory with a dot
rsync isn't bad, but I would call it serious overkill in this scenario.
Hi I'm desperately trying to learn to be a good admin. I'm far from it. In Spain companies are prepared to pay you loadsa money if you can stop them getting viruses and you can speak English and Spanish. So I tried just about all methods everyone suggested. The only ones which worked first time viz me copying and pasting from this thread to my cli were the renaming as dot (yours I think) and the rsync alternative. I also used mc as my server does not have a gui. What amazes me is that hobbyists (it seems that most people on this site do not work as admins to earn a living) such as the folk on this list are so willing and eager to help. Indeed were it not for them I'd not be in the position I'm in now. You never get that in the workplace. All they do is complain that vista is so slow now I have the suse server in place. Love from Lynn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Søndag 02 september 2007 09:49 skrev primm:
On Sunday 02 September 2007 02:07, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 01 September 2007 17:51:40 primm wrote:
Hi everyone.
I've learned a lot by this thread.
The way to go for novice webmistresses seems to be mc (what an amazing piece of kit- thanks to whoever suggested it) or rsync.
I used rsync out of desperation.
Did I miss something? I thought you said you used the idea of naming the directory with a dot
rsync isn't bad, but I would call it serious overkill in this scenario.
Hi I'm desperately trying to learn to be a good admin. I'm far from it. In Spain companies are prepared to pay you loadsa money if you can stop them getting viruses and you can speak English and Spanish. So I tried just about all methods everyone suggested. The only ones which worked first time viz me copying and pasting from this thread to my cli were the renaming as dot (yours I think) and the rsync alternative. I also used mc as my server does not have a gui.
What amazes me is that hobbyists (it seems that most people on this site do not work as admins to earn a living) such as the folk on this list are so willing and eager to help. Indeed were it not for them I'd not be in the position I'm in now. You never get that in the workplace. All they do is complain that vista is so slow now I have the suse server in place.
Love from Lynn.
Hi list and Lynn, - well one more pro sys admin here... - the reason I didn't try to help in the first place is due to simply being afraid of giving wrong advice. - In *NIX OSses, there are usually more than one way of doing things. In your scenario, I was unsure of the correct way of doing it, mainly due to the very large amount of files (> 800) which, as noted, could cause a problem when using a simple "*". Also, the "copy dot files" is not imminently easy. - I learn all the time. - I also learned from following this thread. Best of luck! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
What amazes me is that hobbyists (it seems that most people on this site do not work as admins to earn a living) such as the folk on this list are so willing and eager to help. Indeed were it not for them I'd not be in the position I'm in now. You never get that in the workplace. All they do is complain that vista is so slow now I have the suse server in place.
Love from Lynn.
Hi list and Lynn,
- well one more pro sys admin here... - the reason I didn't try to help in the first place is due to simply being afraid of giving wrong advice. - In *NIX OSses, there are usually more than one way of doing things. In your scenario, I was unsure of the correct way of doing it, mainly due to the very large amount of files (> 800) which, as noted, could cause a problem when using a simple "*". Also, the "copy dot files" is not imminently easy. - I learn all the time. - I also learned from following this thread.
Best of luck!
Hi Thanks. That's encouraging. I'm glad you said, 'I also learned from following this thread.' How do you say 'mal de mucho, consuelo de tontos' in English? Beacause that's how I feel about taking on a lan and administering it. You make me feel safe in my void of anyone else to relate to if I have a problem. Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Søndag 02 september 2007 11:40 skrev primm:
What amazes me is that hobbyists (it seems that most people on this site do not work as admins to earn a living) such as the folk on this list are so willing and eager to help. Indeed were it not for them I'd not be in the position I'm in now. You never get that in the workplace. All they do is complain that vista is so slow now I have the suse server in place.
Love from Lynn.
Hi list and Lynn,
- well one more pro sys admin here... - the reason I didn't try to help in the first place is due to simply being afraid of giving wrong advice. - In *NIX OSses, there are usually more than one way of doing things. In your scenario, I was unsure of the correct way of doing it, mainly due to the very large amount of files (> 800) which, as noted, could cause a problem when using a simple "*". Also, the "copy dot files" is not imminently easy. - I learn all the time. - I also learned from following this thread.
Best of luck!
Hi
Thanks. That's encouraging. I'm glad you said, 'I also learned from following this thread.'
How do you say 'mal de mucho, consuelo de tontos' in English? Beacause that's how I feel about taking on a lan and administering it. You make me feel safe in my void of anyone else to relate to if I have a problem.
Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn.
Hi - please allow me to disagree... - I manage a lot of systems, most of them running OpenSUSE some running SLES10 and so. - I read a lot, I try to help a little now and then, and - I get A LOT of positive feedback from this and other lists. Generally, I find the Linux community being very responsive, very responsible and very helpfull indeed. - in my experience, support from the community is A LOT better than some of the paid offers.. As I wrote earlier, I'm somewhat reluctant giving advice out of fear of giving wrong advise. I remember (many years ago, when I was a real Linux newbie) I asked a list why root couldn't start an X programme (Root was not allowed to use the X-server, fix it by going "xhost +" or something similar), I got an answer after 10 minutes. But it started a lenghty discussion on the list, if this advise was appropriate or not. I think it ran to 30+ answers or so :-) And a wrong advise can really steal your time. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 September 2007 03:12, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
...
As I wrote earlier, I'm somewhat reluctant giving advice out of fear of giving wrong advise.
I think you should just go ahead. When you're unsure of something, say so. Or do what I sometimes do, use it as an opportunity to look something up. That way you remember it better and knowledge is spread. And keep in mind, this is an active list with lots of subscribers. If you say something even a little wrong, someone will probably correct you. And even if they don't, when someone tries it out and it doesn't work, they'll let you know. Live and learn!
... But it started a lenghty discussion on the list, if this advise was appropriate or not. I think it ran to 30+ answers or so :-)
And a wrong advise can really steal your time.
Be straightforward about what you do know and what you don't know and when you're simply uncertain and you've discharged your responsibility to honesty.
Verner Kjærsgaard
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 September 2007 16:37, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 02 September 2007 03:12, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
...
As I wrote earlier, I'm somewhat reluctant giving advice out of fear of giving wrong advise.
I think you should just go ahead. When you're unsure of something, say so. Or do what I sometimes do, use it as an opportunity to look something up. That way you remember it better and knowledge is spread.
And keep in mind, this is an active list with lots of subscribers. If you say something even a little wrong, someone will probably correct you. And even if they don't, when someone tries it out and it doesn't work, they'll let you know.
Live and learn!
Hi That's good advice. I don't think there is any problem that some or other member of this list cannot help me with. This list is far better that paying fopr professional advice. I think as an admin you can stagnate and do things the same forever. That's exactly what I don't want to do. My original thread brought no fewer than 12 different methods to help me. Two worked out of the box. The others were equally interesting as taught me a lesson that there are indeed no correct or official ways of doing things in Linux. There are at least 12 equally viable solutions for each question I throw up. Love from Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm wrote:
Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn.
This is one of the models of open source, including Linux. The software is free for the taking, but if you want support, you have to pay for it. If you were to buy one of the enterprise packages from Novell, you'd have support. If you want the free software, but don't want to pay for support, you have to come to lists, such as this, for support. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 September 2007 13:41, James Knott wrote:
primm wrote:
Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn.
This is one of the models of open source, including Linux. The software is free for the taking, but if you want support, you have to pay for it.
I have to disagree. I have free support built in from here. I pay nothing for it. Within minutes I get responses. Many alternative from which to try out. some which work and some which don't. I took a job as an admin based solely upon the support I could get from this list. it's a challenge but I know no different. I know I was second best. They hired me because of my languages. Not my Linux experience. Love from Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm wrote:
On Sunday 02 September 2007 13:41, James Knott wrote:
primm wrote:
Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn. This is one of the models of open source, including Linux. The software is free for the taking, but if you want support, you have to pay for it.
I have to disagree. I have free support built in from here. I pay nothing for it. Within minutes I get responses. Many alternative from which to try out. some which work and some which don't. I took a job as an admin based solely upon the support I could get from this list. it's a challenge but I know no different. I know I was second best. They hired me because of my languages. Not my Linux experience.
Love from Lynn x
I guess I should have said "official" support. I agree, the support here is good. However, some companies want support from a supplier. In that case, they have to go with one of the enterprise packages or hire someone. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Søndag 02 september 2007 14:11 skrev primm:
On Sunday 02 September 2007 13:41, James Knott wrote:
primm wrote:
Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn.
This is one of the models of open source, including Linux. The software is free for the taking, but if you want support, you have to pay for it.
I have to disagree. I have free support built in from here. I pay nothing for it. Within minutes I get responses. Many alternative from which to try out. some which work and some which don't. I took a job as an admin based solely upon the support I could get from this list. it's a challenge but I know no different. I know I was second best. They hired me because of my languages. Not my Linux experience.
Love from Lynn x
- just a short note... - it may be that you were the second best at the time of hiring. - but that situation will change :-) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
- just a short note... - it may be that you were the second best at the time of hiring. - but that situation will change :-)
Hi. I think you may just be right. I didn't have to make the coffee today :-). But did get told off for wearing high heels-:( Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 9/2/07, primm
- just a short note... - it may be that you were the second best at the time of hiring. - but that situation will change :-)
Hi. I think you may just be right. I didn't have to make the coffee today :-). But did get told off for wearing high heels-:(
I used to work with a woman programmer that came from Russia, (Ukraine before that). She always wore high heels. I assumed it was the Russian culture. A couple weeks ago I went to her birthday party. I was one of 5 people there that did not speak Russian. Part of the evening was a parody of her life. Much of it involved her love of heels. ie. Here she walking in the woods, wearing heels. etc. etc. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm wrote:
Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent.
I use both sles and opensuse in data centers, and while it is true that novell support is reserved for paid sles customers, there is a lot of help for opensuse out there on the net. I find that google is often the best and quickest answer for the various problems I might run into. This list is useful of course, but in business situations one often needs an answer within minutes, not hours or days. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:56, joe wrote:
primm wrote:
Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent.
I use both sles and opensuse in data centers, and while it is true that novell support is reserved for paid sles customers, there is a lot of help for opensuse out there on the net. I find that google is often the best and quickest answer for the various problems I might run into.
This list is useful of course, but in business situations one often needs an answer within minutes, not hours or days.
Joe
Hi Joe. That's so true. The ubuntu list has everything you need to know about X and it applies equally well to SuSE. I found that out when trying to install the oh so sexy compiz fusion stuff which knocks macbores and windoze users of their feet. Ask for cli help on Ubuntu and they'd be at a loss. it's a cse of using the 'net to ones advantage I suppose. Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 2 2007 11:40, primm wrote:
Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin.
The better sysadmins can solve the problems without enterprise support. Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:58:59 Jan Engelhardt wrote:
The better sysadmins can solve the problems without enterprise support.
Depends on the problem. Relatively few sysadmins know enough about development to be able to fix bugs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 September 2007 21:29, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:58:59 Jan Engelhardt wrote:
The better sysadmins can solve the problems without enterprise support.
Depends on the problem. Relatively few sysadmins know enough about development to be able to fix bugs.
In Linux you are very much on your own. Every Linux hobbyist I know thinks they can run a lan. Put them in charge for a day and I bet there would be little or anything left of /etc. Everyone seems to know better. Especially men. It's not about dealing with computers. It's about dealing with people. That's where Linux users fall down so badly. That's why they don't get the jobs they deserve. Too many of them still live with their Mother. Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm wrote:
On Sunday 02 September 2007 21:29, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:58:59 Jan Engelhardt wrote:
The better sysadmins can solve the problems without enterprise support. Depends on the problem. Relatively few sysadmins know enough about development to be able to fix bugs.
In Linux you are very much on your own.
On your own? What kind of statement is that? Support is available, as with any other OS, and then some. I can pick up the phone anytime, 24/7 and call HP or Novell to get linux support. Then there's also support available on the net for free.
Every Linux hobbyist I know thinks they can run a lan. Put them in charge for a day and I bet there would be little or anything left of /etc. Everyone seems to know better. Especially men. It's not about dealing with computers. It's about dealing with people. That's where Linux users fall down so badly. That's why they don't get the jobs they deserve. Too many of them still live with their Mother.
Too many outmoded stereotypes. I know a number of linux admins, and as with anything, there are some really sharp ones, and some that you wouldn't let near your computer. All the linux admins I know are married and own houses BTW. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm wrote:
In Linux you are very much on your own. Every Linux hobbyist I know thinks they can run a lan. Put them in charge for a day and I bet there would be little or anything left of /etc. Everyone seems to know better. Especially men. It's not about dealing with computers. It's about dealing with people. That's where Linux users fall down so badly. That's why they don't get the jobs they deserve. Too many of them still live with their Mother.
Lynn x
I don't care who ya are. That there is funny. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 September 2007 23:12:24 primm wrote:
In Linux you are very much on your own.
That is very much not true. It is true that there are a lot of people out there who pretend to know things (or think they do) when they really don't, but that is not exclusive to linux. The ability to judge the appropriateness of a suggested solution is more important than knowing the answer yourself. I have seen many suggestions on many mailing lists which, if implemented, would have totally destroyed the installation. But that has nothing whatever to do with linux, and everything to do with human nature. Many of these emails were on lists unrelated to linux Besides, as was pointed out, you have many professional options for support. And there are many highly knowledgable persons on this mailing list and others. But if you want to rely on mailing lists, you have to learn to distinguish good answers from bad. But that's not the same as being on your own, it's just life -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:58, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 2 2007 11:40, primm wrote:
Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin.
The better sysadmins can solve the problems without enterprise support.
I'm on the steep learning curve of being one of your better sysadmins then! Love from Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 September 2007 11:19:54 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
- In *NIX OSses, there are usually more than one way of doing things. In your scenario, I was unsure of the correct way of doing it, mainly due to the very large amount of files (> 800) which, as noted, could cause a problem when using a simple "*"
ISTR the limit on a command line is 32K characters, so if you have very long file names, it would be a problem. But in most cases, you have to go way beyond 800 files before it becomes something to worry about. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 September 2007 09:49:16 primm wrote:
I'm desperately trying to learn to be a good admin. I'm far from it. In Spain companies are prepared to pay you loadsa money if you can stop them getting viruses and you can speak English and Spanish. So I tried just about all methods everyone suggested. The only ones which worked first time viz me copying and pasting from this thread to my cli were the renaming as dot (yours I think) and the rsync alternative. I also used mc as my server does not have a gui.
Well shopt -s extglob cp -a !(members) members should have worked, and so should export GLOBIGNORE=members cp -a * members I did test them before sending off the suggestions (although I did have a typo in there, so yes, a copy/paste wouldn't have worked) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I also used mc
as my server does not have a gui.
Well
shopt -s extglob cp -a !(members) members
should have worked, and so should
export GLOBIGNORE=members cp -a * members
I did test them before sending off the suggestions (although I did have a typo in there, so yes, a copy/paste wouldn't have worked)
Hi Anders. Don't worry about it. Yours was one of the two solutions which copy and pasted just fine. The other was the rsync method. Love from Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 1 2007 12:34, primm wrote:
On Saturday 01 September 2007 10:13
rsync -AHPSXav --exclude=members * members/;
What does the semicolon do at the end?
End the statement, like in Perl? Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm wrote:
I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type? Sounds easy doesn't it. I tried cp -a * members but that of course includes members. I suppose I want to say 'copy everything in the nonmembers folder that was there before I made the members folder to the members folder'. If I had a gui I would simply drag and drop.
Thanks. Lynn.
simplist answer: cp * members/ lose the -a it won't try to copy members to itself. M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 1 2007 16:51, Matthew Stringer wrote:
primm wrote:
I've 800 or so files and folders in a folder called nonmembers. I mkdir ^^^^^^^^^^^ another folder in the folder nonmembers called members. I want to copy all the 800 files in nonmembers to members. I'm in the nonmembers folder at the command line. What do I type? Sounds easy doesn't it. I tried cp -a * members but that of course includes members. I suppose I want to say 'copy everything in the nonmembers folder that was there before I made the members folder to the members folder'. If I had a gui I would simply drag and drop.
simplist answer:
cp * members/
lose the -a
it won't try to copy members to itself.
It won't copy all the folders (sic: directories). Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
simplist answer:
cp * members/
lose the -a
it won't try to copy members to itself.
It won't copy all the folders (sic: directories).
I tried that but then I lose the permission settings I made on the original directores and files.:-( To repeat. It just has to be mc or rsync. But I'm wondering. Is there anyway of getting into my cli only server from a kde client on my lan? Or does the server have to have X installed too to be able to do that? Love from Lynn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 01 September 2007, primm wrote:
simplist answer:
cp * members/
lose the -a
it won't try to copy members to itself.
It won't copy all the folders (sic: directories).
I tried that but then I lose the permission settings I made on the original directores and files.:-(
To repeat. It just has to be mc or rsync.
But I'm wondering. Is there anyway of getting into my cli only server from a kde client on my lan? Or does the server have to have X installed too to be able to do that?
Love from Lynn.
========== Lynn, I've watched all these shell commands in this thread and nobody has mentioned that you could use something like Konqueror for what you want to do easily. Just to copy, open konqueror as file manager, do a split window from the menu, gather your directories one each in either pane, then copy. Click & drag. Simple & quick and I'm assuming you are using KDE as your window manager. I've also found filezilla just recently, which I like for the same functions in xfce4. I haven't tried this to a non-X machine yet, but again, using Konq in the url use "fish:// or sftp://", plus the login name for that machine with the IP of the machine. EX: fish://lynn@<ip address> That should allow you to get to all parts of that machine to transfer files, delete, etc. I think it will work no matter if one is running X and the other is not. hopefully helpful, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 1 2007 12:46, BandiPat wrote:
But I'm wondering. Is there anyway of getting into my cli only server from a kde client on my lan? Or does the server have to have X installed too to be able to do that?
ssh?
I haven't tried this to a non-X machine yet, but again, using Konq in the url use "fish:// or sftp://", plus the login name for that machine with the IP of the machine. EX: fish://lynn@<ip address>
sftp/fish does not support ACLs and neither Xattrs. Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
BandiPat wrote:
On Saturday 01 September 2007, primm wrote:
simplist answer:
cp * members/
lose the -a
it won't try to copy members to itself. It won't copy all the folders (sic: directories). I tried that but then I lose the permission settings I made on the original directores and files.:-(
To repeat. It just has to be mc or rsync.
But I'm wondering. Is there anyway of getting into my cli only server from a kde client on my lan? Or does the server have to have X installed too to be able to do that?
Love from Lynn.
==========
Lynn, I've watched all these shell commands in this thread and nobody has mentioned that you could use something like Konqueror for what you want to do easily.
Just to copy, open konqueror as file manager, do a split window from the menu, gather your directories one each in either pane, then copy. Click & drag. Simple & quick and I'm assuming you are using KDE as your window manager. I've also found filezilla just recently, which I like for the same functions in xfce4.
One thing the OP had as a limitation was no GUI. I would have thought the . trick should have worked (easier to remember, IMO, than the rsync command): $ mkdir .members $ cp -a * .members $ mv .members members BTW, I just made this a Question of the Day on Linux Brain Dump! Readers here aren't allowed to answer it:-) With a GUI, I would have opened the folder, done a select all, ctrl-clicked the members folder, and dragged the rest to the members folder. A problem is that under Konqueror, there doesn't seem to be an easy way to preserve the attributes (ala -a). Under Krusader (my fav file manager these days), if you right click on Copy..., there's an option to preserve the attributes. To answer another question in this thread, I'm just a long time software engineer who admins several of his own systems. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) LinuxBrainDump, Linux HowTo's and Tutorials: http://www.linuxbrainddump.org Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
To answer another question in this thread, I'm just a long time software engineer who admins several of his own systems.
That's getting at what I really want to know. How do you deal with people in your company who tell you how to do your job who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about without being rude? How do you explain squid? Do your peers speak English? Can you say cli and gui at management meeting? Love. Lynn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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BandiPat wrote:
On Saturday 01 September 2007, primm wrote:
simplist answer:
cp * members/
lose the -a
it won't try to copy members to itself. It won't copy all the folders (sic: directories). I tried that but then I lose the permission settings I made on the original directores and files.:-(
To repeat. It just has to be mc or rsync.
But I'm wondering. Is there anyway of getting into my cli only server from a kde client on my lan? Or does the server have to have X installed too to be able to do that?
Love from Lynn. ==========
Lynn, I've watched all these shell commands in this thread and nobody has mentioned that you could use something like Konqueror for what you want to do easily.
Just to copy, open konqueror as file manager, do a split window from the menu, gather your directories one each in either pane, then copy. Click & drag. Simple & quick and I'm assuming you are using KDE as your window manager. I've also found filezilla just recently, which I like for the same functions in xfce4.
One thing the OP had as a limitation was no GUI. I would have thought the . trick should have worked (easier to remember, IMO, than the rsync command):
$ mkdir .members $ cp -a * .members $ mv .members members
BTW, I just made this a Question of the Day on Linux Brain Dump! Readers here aren't allowed to answer it:-)
With a GUI, I would have opened the folder, done a select all, ctrl-clicked the members folder, and dragged the rest to the members folder. A problem is that under Konqueror, there doesn't seem to be an easy way to preserve the attributes (ala -a). Under Krusader (my fav file manager these days), if you right click on Copy..., there's an option to preserve the attributes.
To answer another question in this thread, I'm just a long time software engineer who admins several of his own systems.
BTW I first came across this peculiarity of cp (the hard way crashing a SUN workstation after a typo ;-) ) 20 years ago and I as I was a bit surprised that the recursive self copy of a directory was still not picked up as something that is probably not a good thing to allow to happen, so I decided to do a little test (nice and safely on a floppy :-) ). The result was interesting, the files copied OK and a empty copy of the directory appeared and error about copying a directory on to itself occurred. The original held... fileA fileB test test2 where test and test2 are directories after.. cp -a + test one ended up with test containing fileA fileB test test2 with test with the original contents of test... (After performing a second ... cp -a * test test/test had the contents fileA fileB test test2 and so on ad infinitum... but that is to be expected) so it occurs to me that.... cp -a * test ; rmdir test/test is probably equally OK if test is empty !?!... Now this could be a quirk due to the FAT fs on the floppy... maybe someone is prepared to risk a partition (and possibly their sanity) to verify this on another FS and maybe we have a 'Much ado about nothing' scenario. To the other question I have worked as a, programmers, systems programmer, systems admin for a long time (mainly in an academic environment)... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2tH9asN0sSnLmgIRAh1HAKC/tRjxD4BBeU4F1fU02KA5MpKqzwCfcetU DtV7XGRqQEoSV+fdaeZzUeI= =kftn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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To the other question I have worked as a, programmers, systems programmer, systems admin for a long time (mainly in an academic environment)...
Phew. Frightening. Who'd risk being root on a lan these days. I'm having second thoughts. I used to have an easy job doing word processing! Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm wrote:
simplist answer:
cp * members/
lose the -a
it won't try to copy members to itself. It won't copy all the folders (sic: directories).
I tried that but then I lose the permission settings I made on the original directores and files.:-(
To repeat. It just has to be mc or rsync.
But I'm wondering. Is there anyway of getting into my cli only server from a kde client on my lan? Or does the server have to have X installed too to be able to do that?
Love from Lynn.
Another way: cd nonmembers tar -cvf ../members.tar . mkdir members mv ../members.tar members cd members tar -xvf members.tar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi everyone Just to say a big thank you to you all for saving my day. I have successfully solved this matter. Love from Lynn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 01 September 2007 18:25:09 primm wrote:
simplist answer:
cp * members/
lose the -a
it won't try to copy members to itself.
It won't copy all the folders (sic: directories).
I tried that but then I lose the permission settings I made on the original directores and files.:-(
To repeat. It just has to be mc or rsync.
Why? What's wrong with cp and bash? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
primm schreef: (snip)>
But I'm wondering. Is there anyway of getting into my cli only server from a kde client on my lan? Or does the server have to have X installed too to be able to do that?
Love from Lynn.
Open a console (konsole) in your kde client and type ssh YOUR_ACCOUNT@SERVER_HOSTNAME to open up an ssh (secure shell, logins, passwords and packets will be encrypted) connection to the server. This will give you a cli interface. The server must have the ssh daemon running. If the ssh daemon is configured in such a way that it does not allow root logins (some are, for reasons that do not matter right now) you must use your own account name to login and use 'su' or 'sudo' to obtain root privileges. Regards, -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704, hobbyist -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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