On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM, John Andersen wrote:

Boris Epstein wrote:

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Hi all,

If you know of such tuners, please share the knowledge.

Thanks.

Boris.

The Hauppauge line is generally a good bet http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/prods.html

The unclear part of your question is do you want a Digital or Analog tuner? There is no shortage of either, especially the Analog, with the US and Europe converting to Digital, these older tuners are becoming cheap on the second hand market.

John, thanks for responding! I meant analog. It just seems as I go through various tuners on sale here in the US that they all only say NTSC. Does that mean that they wouldn't fo PAL at all? We have this French-made instrument that outputs video via a PAL-formatted coax feed and that's one of the things we need to interface with. Boris. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:07 PM, James Knott wrote:

Boris Epstein wrote:

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It just seems as I go through various tuners on sale here in the US that they all only say NTSC. Does that mean that they wouldn't fo PAL at all? We have this French-made instrument that outputs video via a PAL-formatted coax feed and that's one of the things we need to interface with.

Boris.

Does that device put out a modulated RF signal, that would be used with a TV set via the antenna connector or direct video out, that would connect to a video input connector?  If the latter, then you wouldn't need a tuner.

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Here's the CCD camera whose output we need to capture: http://www.jvcpro.co.uk/jpe/en/global/product.2781.140.html Sounds like it just pumps out direct PAL video. Boris. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

Boris Epstein pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:07 PM, James Knott wrote:

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Boris Epstein wrote:

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It just seems as I go through various tuners on sale here in the US that they all only say NTSC. Does that mean that they wouldn't fo PAL at all? We have this French-made instrument that outputs video via a PAL-formatted coax feed and that's one of the things we need to interface with.

Boris.

Does that device put out a modulated RF signal, that would be used with a TV set via the antenna connector or direct video out, that would connect to a video input connector?  If the latter, then you wouldn't need a tuner.

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Here's the CCD camera whose output we need to capture:

http://www.jvcpro.co.uk/jpe/en/global/product.2781.140.html

Sounds like it just pumps out direct PAL video.

Boris.

According to the specs it has:

Video output:    Composite and Y/C

And looking up Y/C my guess is it is S-Video. Most modern TV's have an S-Video connector (at least all of mine do) so you might try that.

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Well, it's not a TV but a monitor we want to use it on. Plus, we want to be able to capture frames, hence a computer capture device is still needed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Boris Epstein wrote:

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:07 PM, James Knott wrote:

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Boris Epstein wrote:

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It just seems as I go through various tuners on sale here in the US that they all only say NTSC. Does that mean that they wouldn't fo PAL at all? We have this French-made instrument that outputs video via a PAL-formatted coax feed and that's one of the things we need to interface with.

Boris.

Does that device put out a modulated RF signal, that would be used with a TV set via the antenna connector or direct video out, that would connect to a video input connector? If the latter, then you wouldn't need a tuner.

Here's the CCD camera whose output we need to capture:

http://www.jvcpro.co.uk/jpe/en/global/product.2781.140.html

Sounds like it just pumps out direct PAL video.

Boris.

That is correct, so you wouldn't need a tuner. You need something that can work with that video signal. Search on video capture cards and see what turns up. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Andersen wrote:

Boris Epstein wrote:

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Hi all,

If you know of such tuners, please share the knowledge.

Thanks.

Boris.

The Hauppauge line is generally a good bet http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/prods.html

The unclear part of your question is do you want a Digital or Analog tuner? There is no shortage of either, especially the Analog, with the US and Europe converting to Digital, these older tuners are becoming cheap on the second hand market.

Neither NTSC nor PAL are digital. In North America, the digital standard is ATSC. Analog signals are disappearing fast. In the U.S. many stations have already switched off NTSC signals and the rest will have done so by June 12. In Canada, the analog cutoff date is Aug 31, 2011. Europe and elsewhere have different schedules, with many having already switched or in the process of doing so. This means an analog tuner will soon not be of much use. Even in places where the cutoff is a way off, many stations have already started broadcasting digital signals, in addition to analog. For example, in Toronto, Ontario, there is only one station that does not have a digital signal yet. Here's some info on the switch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television_transition -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

L. V. Lammert wrote:

At 04:03 PM 5/18/2009 -0400, James Knott wrote:

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Neither NTSC nor PAL are digital. In North America, the digital standard is ATSC. Analog signals are disappearing fast.

Actually, that is incorrect. Analog *BROADCAST* signals are disappearing; if you have cable service locally, it will continue analog broadcast for some time. If you have Satellite, you could also use analog video-in or even NTSC/PAL [assuming the EU is similar].

Many cable operators are in the process of switching to digital only too. On mine, many channels are available only on digital and new subscribers can only get digital service. I have two TVs here. One a HDTV set is connected to a PVR and the other, an old analog set is connected to a converter, via S-video cable. The only thing I have that still relies on an analog signal is a VCR. It connects to the TV via composite video cable.

Of course, digital signals are much higher resolution, but analog tuners will still be usable for many years [and get cheaper by the day] if you have a non-broadcast source.

Quite so, but analog sources, used by most people, are going away fast. Also, that old analog set displays a much better picture on digital, than it ever did on analog cable. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Mike McMullin wrote:

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 16:03 -0400, James Knott wrote:

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John Andersen wrote:

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Boris Epstein wrote:

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Hi all,

If you know of such tuners, please share the knowledge.

Thanks.

Boris.

The Hauppauge line is generally a good bet http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/prods.html

The unclear part of your question is do you want a Digital or Analog tuner? There is no shortage of either, especially the Analog, with the US and Europe converting to Digital, these older tuners are becoming cheap on the second hand market.

Neither NTSC nor PAL are digital. In North America, the digital standard is ATSC. Analog signals are disappearing fast. In the U.S. many stations have already switched off NTSC signals and the rest will have done so by June 12. In Canada, the analog cutoff date is Aug 31, 2011. Europe and elsewhere have different schedules, with many having already switched or in the process of doing so. This means an analog tuner will soon not be of much use. Even in places where the cutoff is a way off, many stations have already started broadcasting digital signals, in addition to analog. For example, in Toronto, Ontario, there is only one station that does not have a digital signal yet.

A point if I may, if you have non-digital cable you won't be forced to upgrade unless the cable provider so dictates.

That is the general direction that they're heading. As I mentioned in another note, my cable provider will only sell digital service to new subscribers and many channels are only available on digital As some point, they'll likely kill analog entirely. The benefits of digital are too great to ignore. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org