[opensuse] openSuse 10.2 widescreen resolution problems...
Hello! ok, installed 10.2 on my new dell core 2 duo laptop. here is the problem (one of): i cannot change the screen resolution at all. it's stuck at 1024x768. Yast lets me change to the proper resolution settings of 1280x800, but when it tests the new resolution it is testing 1024x768! no matter what i do when I restart X it always stays at 1024x768. I even hand-edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and at one point edited out all references to 1024x768, but every time X is restarted everything is reset including xorg.conf! another thing that is now happening (possibly my fault from messing around irritated and carelessly) is that the "Display" section of "Yast Administration" will very rarely load up now. here are some details for what they're worth: chipset: Mobile Intel 945GM Express native resolution of screen: 1280x800 excerpt from /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "Monitor" DisplaySize 303 190 HorizSync 29-62 Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "UD490 141W1 LCD MONITOR" Option "DPMS" VendorName "SEC" VertRefresh 43-60 UseModes "Modes[0]" EndSection Section "Modes" Identifier "Modes[0]" Modeline "1280x800" 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828 Modeline "1280x800" 69.75 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 823 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1280x768" 80.14 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795 Modeline "1280x768" 67.00 1280 1328 1360 1440 768 771 778 790 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1024x768" 64.11 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 795 Modeline "1024x768" 55.00 1024 1072 1104 1184 768 771 775 790 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1280x600" 61.50 1280 1336 1464 1648 600 601 604 622 Modeline "1280x600" 52.50 1280 1328 1360 1440 600 603 613 619 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "1024x600" 48.96 1024 1064 1168 1312 600 601 604 622 Modeline "1024x600" 43.00 1024 1072 1104 1184 600 603 613 619 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "800x600" 38.22 800 832 912 1024 600 601 604 622 Modeline "800x600" 34.75 800 848 880 960 600 603 607 617 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "768x576" 34.96 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597 Modeline "768x576" 32.25 768 816 848 928 576 579 583 593 +HSync -Vsync Modeline "640x480" 23.86 640 656 720 800 480 481 484 497 Modeline "640x480" 23.25 640 688 720 800 480 483 487 494 +HSync -Vsync EndSection Section "Screen" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x800" "1280x768" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480" EndSubSection Device "Device[0]" Identifier "Screen[0]" Monitor "Monitor[0]" EndSection Section "Device" BoardName "945 GM" BusID "0:2:0" Driver "i810" Identifier "Device[0]" Option "NoDDC" Screen 0 VendorName "Intel" EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout[all]" InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Mouse[3]" "SendCoreEvents" Option "Clone" "off" Option "Xinerama" "off" Screen "Screen[0]" EndSection Section "DRI" Group "video" Mode 0660 EndSection Section "Extensions" EndSection cheers in advance! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 26 April 2007 16:46, Rod Schuffler wrote:
another thing that is now happening (possibly my fault from messing around irritated and carelessly) is that the "Display" section of "Yast Administration" will very rarely load up now. ok Rod, let's see if the advice I received today will work for you...
Log into a black screen console as root and this: sax2 -r The -r switch tells sax to blow away its original hardware info and reprobe... -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2007/04/26 18:09 (GMT-0400) M Harris apparently typed:
On Thursday 26 April 2007 16:46, Rod Schuffler wrote:
Have either of you two tried removing the UseModes line and the entire 'Section "Modes"'? Also, I provide minimal flexibility for Xorg to choose wrong by setting 'VertRefresh 59-61' if 60 is the refresh I want (but I don't use LCDs either). Further, when using a DisplaySize line, I add this line to 'Section "Device"': 'Option "NoDDC"'. Recent Xorg versions seem to disregard DisplaySize when DDC is functional. -- "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" 2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 26 April 2007 17:31, Felix Miata wrote:
Have either of you two tried removing the UseModes line and the entire 'Section "Modes"'? Yes, I tried manually manipulating the xorg.conf file sixteen way to sunday... and nadda. In my case no matter what I tried the X system was stuck at sending a horz freq of about 77.x and the monitor said, unh-ah.
Also, I provide minimal flexibility for Xorg to choose wrong by setting 'VertRefresh 59-61' if 60 is the refresh I want (but I don't use LCDs either). Further, when using a DisplaySize line, I add this line to 'Section "Device"': 'Option "NoDDC"'. Recent Xorg versions seem to disregard DisplaySize when DDC is functional. Tried all of the above... and more... and man was I frustrated... for one its never happened to me before... and for another... it doesn't make sense... and comp sci is supposed to make sense. Obviously us manual configurators are missing something when sax (or whatever) can probe and play at setup but simple humans can't *reconfigure* later?? It should be as simple for openSUSE fans to add a new display (or card) as power down, install hardware, power-up system senses something has changed, goes into setup mode (installer, yast) probes, detects, configures, writes config... up and running... no hits, no errors, and runs all day.... /end rant2
sigh -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2007/04/26 17:45 (GMT-0500) M Harris apparently typed:
On Thursday 26 April 2007 17:31, Felix Miata wrote:
Have either of you two tried removing the UseModes line and the entire 'Section "Modes"'?
Yes, I tried manually manipulating the xorg.conf file sixteen way to sunday... and nadda. In my case no matter what I tried the X system was stuck at sending a horz freq of about 77.x and the monitor said, unh-ah.
I went back and reread your thread opener from 3 hours ago and have to wonder how if you set in 'Section "Device"': 'Option "NoDDC"' how Xorg can know what the range is and disregard your attempt to put it where you know it should be, e.g. 'HorizSync 29-62'. Are there no clues you can comprehend in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? -- "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" 2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
--- Felix Miata
wonder how if you set in 'Section "Device"': 'Option "NoDDC"' how Xorg can know what the range is and disregard your attempt to put it where you know it should be, e.g. 'HorizSync 29-62'. Are there no clues you can comprehend in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
ok. don't think that was for me, but was having a look at that log file and noticed a warning about "Bad V_BIOS checksum" now and then. i810 (intel driver) detecting VESA BIOS stuff and "going" thru video modes 640x480,800x600,1024x768, a few 0x0 modes (?) *Note!Only 1280x800 is now in my xorg.conf file.* it tells us not using the various modes as vrefresh or hsync out of range. Then finally: (II) I810(0): Monitor[0]: Using hsync range of 30.00-62.00 kHz (II) I810(0): Monitor[0]: Using vrefresh range of 43.00-60.00 Hz (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x800" (no mode of this name) (--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) (**) I810(0): Built-in mode "1024x768" (**) I810(0): Built-in mode "800x600" (**) I810(0): Built-in mode "640x480" (**) I810(0): Display dimensions: (303, 190) mm (**) I810(0): DPI set to (85, 102) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" What does it all mean? i dunno. i have this sneaking hunch i should be adding something as a kernel parameter perhaps??? currently grub has vga=0x314, which i think is some kind of 1024x768 resolution, but how can this be changed to widescreen? to best of my knowledge it can't?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 26 April 2007 18:00, Felix Miata wrote:
I went back and reread your thread opener from 3 hours ago and have to wonder how if you set in 'Section "Device"': 'Option "NoDDC"' how Xorg can know what the range is and disregard your attempt to put it where you know it should be, e.g. 'HorizSync 29-62'. Are there no clues you can comprehend in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Uh... yeah, tell me about it... I nearly pulled my hair out...
... in fact, near the end I finally went out there and deleted *everything* xorg.conf xorg.conf.save yadda yadda and tried to start sax2... nadda. wouldn't even start ... horz sync out of range... too high... I got the machine running again by *reinstalling* it.... not a big deal, took thirty minutes... probed, found, and configured the card and the monitor (including *knowing verbatim* ) the specifics of both... and it worked flawlessly without asking me one single question. And my earlier point is simple... whatever sax is doing at install should be able to be reproduced (post install) so that adding or changing either a card or monitor is a five minute job instead of all afternoon! sigh. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2007/04/26 19:48 (GMT-0500) M Harris apparently typed:
... in fact, near the end I finally went out there and deleted *everything* xorg.conf xorg.conf.save yadda yadda and tried to start sax2... nadda. wouldn't even start ... horz sync out of range... too high...
I got the machine running again by *reinstalling* it.... not a big deal, took thirty minutes... probed, found, and configured the card and the monitor (including *knowing verbatim* ) the specifics of both... and it worked flawlessly without asking me one single question.
And my earlier point is simple... whatever sax is doing at install should be able to be reproduced (post install) so that adding or changing either a card or monitor is a five minute job instead of all afternoon! sigh.
Now that you have a working xorg.conf, share it with us, and SaX.log. Maybe someone can find the magical content that doesn't happen otherwise and get a fixable bug filed. People shouldn't be constantly coming here and complaining their common LCD display types aren't properly configured and can't be configured by mere mortals, or by yast/sax. -- "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" 2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 26 April 2007 20:26, Felix Miata wrote:
Now that you have a working xorg.conf, share it with us, and SaX.log. Maybe someone can find the magical content that doesn't happen otherwise and get a fixable bug filed. Fair enough... see attached.
People shouldn't be constantly coming here and complaining their common LCD display types aren't properly configured and can't be configured by mere mortals, or by yast/sax. I've only had this happen once... not constantly; however, the fact that people constantly come here complaining should tell you something. Reconfigure of an X window system (post install) is a pain in the neck... and not just in openSUSE either... so don't feel too badly-- there is enough X pain to go around. Keep my main point in mind... sax2 is correctly doing its job at install time-- its nothing short of wonderful-- now, we just need to get it to be as consistent at (post install) time, should things need to be reconfigured... at least it shouldn't take a system reload! /end rant (that's three rants for me today... rats)
Ps Expand the tarball in your home dir with : tar -xvjf xorg_conf-harris.tar.bz2 Pss See other thread also: [opensuse] Video Reconfig Issue openSUSE -- Kind regards, M Harris <><
On 2007/04/27 01:10 (GMT-0500) M Harris apparently typed:
On Thursday 26 April 2007 20:26, Felix Miata wrote:
Now that you have a working xorg.conf, share it with us, and SaX.log. Maybe someone can find the magical content that doesn't happen otherwise and get a fixable bug filed. ... Ps Expand the tarball in your home dir with : tar -xvjf xorg_conf-harris.tar.bz2
Tarball? No thanks. I never see binary attachments to emails, and apparently neither does anyone searching the opensuse mailing list archive: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-04/msg03242.html -- "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" 2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Tarball? No thanks. I never see binary attachments to emails, and apparently neither does anyone searching the opensuse mailing list archive: Oh, what a pain... compressed bz tarballs are way safer than some pics... and
On Friday 27 April 2007 03:18, Felix Miata wrote:
those get through...
# /.../
# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2007-04-26T14:05:45-0500.
#
# Version: 7.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer
With what parameters did you calculate your modelines? I'm getting here for your card apparently: Mobile Intel 945GM Express RAMDAC 400Mhz: 'xmode -x 1280 -y 800 -r 62 -s 60 -d 400' Modeline "1280x800" 86.35 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 829 If that above is correct (plz recheck!!) I would try the following: Section "Modes" Identifier "Modes[0]" Modeline "1280x800" 86.35 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 829 EndSection Section "Screen" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x800" EndSection Thx Jan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rod Schuffler wrote:
Hello! ok, installed 10.2 on my new dell core 2 duo laptop. here is the problem (one of):
i cannot change the screen resolution at all. it's stuck at 1024x768. Yast lets me change to the proper resolution settings of 1280x800, but when it tests the new resolution it is testing 1024x768! no matter what i do when I restart X it always stays at 1024x768.
Maybe this will help you: http://en.opensuse.org/Patch_the_Video_BIOS hth+kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
THIS WORKED LIKE A CHARM!! THANKS A LOT!
for anyone who's googling/searching for this:
Problem with setting widescreen resolution in openSuse
10.2 Intel 800 or 900 series. 945GM 830, 845G, 855G,
865G, 915G, 915GM, 945G, 946GZ, G965, Q965, etc.
forget xorg.conf, etc.
FOLLOW THIS LINK:
http://en.opensuse.org/Patch_the_Video_BIOS
--- Eberhard Roloff
Hello! ok, installed 10.2 on my new dell core 2 duo laptop. here is the problem (one of):
i cannot change the screen resolution at all. it's stuck at 1024x768. Yast lets me change to the
resolution settings of 1280x800, but when it tests
Rod Schuffler wrote: proper the
new resolution it is testing 1024x768! no matter what i do when I restart X it always stays at 1024x768.
Maybe this will help you: http://en.opensuse.org/Patch_the_Video_BIOS
hth+kind regards Eberhard
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Eberhard Roloff
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Felix Miata
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Jan Tiggy
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M Harris
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Rod Schuffler