[opensuse] Initial impressions 11.2 RC1
Summary: great and very stable, KDE4 is becoming more and more polished. My BIG THXS to all the developers. I will start with the only major problem I found Problem: DNS When I installed openseuse 11.1 the major problem I got was that I was able to ping but not to be able to use firefox neither see any repository. The problem was solved. It seems it came back again with 11.2 RC1. The temporary solution is to enter by hand the DNS's. This occurs both in the liveCD and in the DVD x86-64. I will not expand here. Bug 549447 - Able to ping, no DNS 1. The creation of a usb stick is very easy and reliable which was not the case before. An improvement would be to be able to save changes into a file, but now is like a CD whatever you change goes to the ram disk and then is not retained. Some of the small distros devoted to usb stick like puppy linux save the changes and then this file is read when you boot the usb stick again. The speed is very fast comparing with the real CD. I will use the usb stick for maintenance mainly system backups to tape. Until now I use physical partition because it was simple to do backups using puppy linux for maintenance, now I can use easily LVM and backup and restore the whole system from the usb stick. GREAT. 2. Yast looks great. The partitioner works perfect, webpin is a new addition. Well all is good. 3. Firefox integration is big plus for kde users. 4. It is hard to evaluate performance comparing it with a production system like I use opensuse 11.1 but it feels faster and more responsive, mainly faster. 5. ext4 seems to work very well, no problem since I use it. I crushed it few time to evaluate recovery and everything has been fine. I have not experimented with Btrfs yet. 6. KDE 4x is getting better and better. Still there is a problem with the system tray widget. I filled bug report before, I'll do it again. The widget fails in two ways a) the icons are represented by a blank square (the only one ok is the mixer) this is a new problem b) if you have opened another activity the system tray widget will show in all activities and the graphics are distorted and you can no see the config and it can not be resize or removed except only in the original activity. BTW the system tray works very well on the panel. This bug creates a problem if you want to remove the panel and replace its functionality with widgets. This is going to be a great release. -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 28.10.2009, Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
5. ext4 seems to work very well, no problem since I use it. I crushed it few time to evaluate recovery and everything has been fine. I have not experimented with Btrfs yet.
My squid cachedir resides on an OCZ SSD with btrfs on it. It's important to run the absolute latest kernel and the newest btrfs-progs. I have never encountered any difficulties, and it's fingerlickin' fast. But keep in mind that btrfs is highly experimental. htd@liesel:~> mount | grep squid /dev/sdb1 on /var/cache/squid type btrfs (rw,nobarrier,ssd_spread) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Teruel de Campo MD
5. ext4 seems to work very well, no problem since I use it. I crushed it few time to evaluate recovery and everything has been fine. I have not experimented with Btrfs yet.
Ext4 still makes me nervous. It is very complex code and under rapid change, so bugs crop up. The latest 2.6.32-rc kernels have significant corruption issues with ext4 after a crash. I'm sure it will be resolved before 2.6.32 is released, but I am still nervous about using it for anything important. It codebase is just too fragile at the moment. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 28.10.2009, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Ext4 still makes me nervous. It is very complex code and under rapid change, so bugs crop up.
Just use XFS. I'm using it for years, it's fast, rock stable and still miles ahead of all ext. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2009-10-28 at 18:54 +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote:
Just use XFS. I'm using it for years, it's fast, rock stable and still miles ahead of all ext.
XFS is good, but I found a bug in it that crashed the entire system, and it has taken years to correct (in 11.2). Previously I found another bug in xfs_repair (it failed and corrupted data) which also took a very long time to repair. Bugs in XFS in suse take years to be repaired. No filesystem is safe, but I'm not playing with ext4. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrolxUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WGWACfS6ai/GwWSrvle8xS1JFgxEIU woAAn3uJZ3n+n5On1GQI6JpPd2FIxVlP =F7VJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 28.10.2009, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Bugs in XFS in suse take years to be repaired.
Don't know how far I'm affected at all. I'm used to install opensuse, update it, and do the rest by myself. Most of the XFS stuff is in the kernel, and I'm up-to-date. I never encountered a single bug (and I've never used a single opensuse kernel longer than for the first time installation :-) ) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 10:03:38 am Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
6. KDE 4x is getting better and better. Still there is a problem with the system tray widget. I filled bug report before, I'll do it again. The widget fails in two ways a) the icons are represented by a blank square (the only one ok is the mixer) this is a new problem b) if you have opened another activity the system tray widget will show in all activities and the graphics are distorted and you can no see the config and it can not be resize or removed except only in the original activity. BTW the system tray works very well on the panel. This bug creates a problem if you want to remove the panel and replace its functionality with widgets.
This is going to be a great release.
Terry, This is exactly what I see in the KDE 4.3.2 installs I have done on 10.3. I thought it was just a problem with the 10.3 packages, because the systray works fine in 4.3.1. I get blank squares to represent some icons and I get duplicate icons (like two klipper icons), but one goes to volume instead. Really strange behavior. I think I even have a screenshot:.... OK, found one of them (showing multiple volume icons): http://www.3111skyline.com/download/bugs/kde4/kde432-systray-icons.png AARGH!, I had 2 more, but gwenview corrupted the images on crop/save. The missing ones show the blank squares and shows knemo represented by the volume icon. Is this what you are seeing with the 11.2 RCs? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 13:48 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Is this what you are seeing with the 11.2 RCs?
David yes, and more 1. I can not see most of the icons but grayish or white squares 2. if you click on the icons the program loads OK Again if I have the system tray on the panel everything is OK. So here a way to reproduce: 1. remove any system tray from panel. Basically I remove also the task manager and any space. Then I shrink the panel to the left side so I can place the task manager and system tray at the bottom. 2. I search on the cashew for the task manager and system tray and I move them to the bottom 3. The task manager works as it should. 4. The system tray has the volume/mixer applet OK, but the klipper and the update applet are represent by a grayish square frame, sometimes all white. 5. If I minimize this activity and open a new activity then the task manager is not there which is the correct behaviour but the system tray is in the middle of the screen, with icons missing and without the bar to move it, close it etc. 6. if you click on this corrupted system tray the application present can be launched. 7. If I continue playing with this system tray often takes the system down. 8. I have a similar behaviour under opensuse 11.1 but here the system tray on the activity were was installed works OK, the problem is with the other activities. -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R.
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David C. Rankin
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Greg Freemyer
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Heinz Diehl
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Teruel de Campo MD