On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

Aschwin Marsman writes:

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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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* Further integration of NetworkManager (note: NetworkManager is on by default on NLD/SUSE Linux and off on SLES)

Why? NetworkManager is already removed from my SUSE 10.0 because it ate a lot of CPU cycles. What does it do what I do not can do without it? Is it's use optional?

You can just not install it and everything will work as on previous releases.

Thanks for your quick reply.

NetworkManager is very handy for those travelling in different environments, especially different LAN and WLAN ones. It makes it far easier to switch between Networks for a normal user.

I currently have a shell script for that, but it looks like it's usefull for a lot of people. I will take a look at it.

It has seen many improvements since 10.0 and if it still uses lots of CPU cycles, I would ask to open bugreports with the NetworkManager folks.

I'm using the torrent to download, hopefully others will do too (34MB in 2 hours).

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When I found out that my system was slow because of NetworkManager I did a "man NetworkManager" to find out what it brings me but no man page was found. Is that fixed for the factory version? (Currently downloading, it will take a while on a 5Mbit link).

No, it does not come with man pages so far,

Could that become a requirement for 10.1? For every process you see after a normal install, especially daemons, there must be a man page before it gets included? Maybe it can be generated if currently there isn't one officially, using: - rpm -qi output - link to a web page about the tool for more information, would be nice if this was already in the rpm -qi output

Andreas

Have a nice weekend, Aschwin Marsman -- aschwin@marsman.org http://www.marsman.org

Hi, If I install 10.1 Alpha4 now and the Beta is released several weeks later as planned, is there an easy path to upgrade? I am currently running Kubuntu and upgrade with apt-get is a fairly well defined process. I just don't want to have to download the Beta ISOs in six weeks or so and then reinstall everything from scratch. Thanks, Sean

To update, boot from the new installation media and select "update" instead of "new installation" where you have the choice (first or second screen in YaST, if I'm not mistaken).

But... that still means that "we" need to download the ISOs with each Beta release vs doing something similar to the apt update that Ubuntu supports to move to a new version. So... is the "easy path" downloading a complete ISO set each time? or will delta ISOs be provided again? or is there a possibility that SMART can be used to move to the next Beta? C.