[opensuse] vmware server 1.5 on opensuse 10.3
Hi, I am trying to install vmware server 1.5 on opensuse 10.3, but I have the folowing problem: == The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected. This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory. In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel. == I had the default 10.3 kernel version but I installed nvidia drivers, and opensuse did also the update for the kernel to linux-2.6.22.17-0.1, ionut@vaio:~> uname -a Linux vaio 2.6.22.17-0.1-default #1 SMP 2008/02/10 20:01:04 UTC x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ionut@vaio:~> rpm -q kernel-source kernel-source-2.6.22.17-0.1 ionut@vaio:~> ls /usr/src/ linux linux-2.6.22.17-0.1 linux-2.6.22.17-0.1-obj linux-obj packages ionut@vaio:~> ls /usr/src/linux/include/ acpi asm-cris asm-m32r asm-ppc asm-um Kbuild net video asm-alpha asm-frv asm-m68k asm-s390 asm-v850 keys pcmcia xen asm-arm asm-generic asm-m68knommu asm-sh asm-x86_64 linux rdma asm-arm26 asm-h8300 asm-mips asm-sh64 asm-xtensa math-emu rxrpc asm-avr32 asm-i386 asm-parisc asm-sparc config media scsi asm-blackfin asm-ia64 asm-powerpc asm-sparc64 crypto mtd sound ionut@vaio:~> I also have linux-kernel-headers package installed. Any idea to install vmware server 1.5? Thank you, Ionut -- === Ioan Vancea http://www.vioan.ro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I solved the problem by using:
http://knihovny.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/vmware-any-any-update115.tar.gz
Thak you,
Ionut
On 5/6/08, Ionut Vancea
Hi,
I am trying to install vmware server 1.5 on opensuse 10.3, but I have the folowing problem:
== The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected. This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory. In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel. ==
I had the default 10.3 kernel version but I installed nvidia drivers, and opensuse did also the update for the kernel to linux-2.6.22.17-0.1,
ionut@vaio:~> uname -a Linux vaio 2.6.22.17-0.1-default #1 SMP 2008/02/10 20:01:04 UTC x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
ionut@vaio:~> rpm -q kernel-source kernel-source-2.6.22.17-0.1
ionut@vaio:~> ls /usr/src/ linux linux-2.6.22.17-0.1 linux-2.6.22.17-0.1-obj linux-obj packages
ionut@vaio:~> ls /usr/src/linux/include/ acpi asm-cris asm-m32r asm-ppc asm-um Kbuild net video asm-alpha asm-frv asm-m68k asm-s390 asm-v850 keys pcmcia xen asm-arm asm-generic asm-m68knommu asm-sh asm-x86_64 linux rdma asm-arm26 asm-h8300 asm-mips asm-sh64 asm-xtensa math-emu rxrpc asm-avr32 asm-i386 asm-parisc asm-sparc config media scsi asm-blackfin asm-ia64 asm-powerpc asm-sparc64 crypto mtd sound ionut@vaio:~>
I also have linux-kernel-headers package installed.
Any idea to install vmware server 1.5?
Thank you, Ionut
-- === Ioan Vancea http://www.vioan.ro
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On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Ionut Vancea
I solved the problem by using:
http://knihovny.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/vmware-any-any-update115.tar.gz
Thak you, Ionut
You should NOT have had to use the any-any hack. If you had kernel source and headers and kerne-syms installed it builds correctly without the any-any hack. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 5/6/08, John Andersen
You should NOT have had to use the any-any hack.
If you had kernel source and headers and kerne-syms installed it builds correctly without the any-any hack.
I had no kernel-syms installed, I have just installed it but I didn't try again to install vmware server because as I said, I installed using any-to-any. I am not sure if the kernel-syms will solve the problem because I still can not see /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h thanks, Ionut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Ionut Vancea
On 5/6/08, John Andersen
wrote: You should NOT have had to use the any-any hack.
If you had kernel source and headers and kerne-syms installed it builds correctly without the any-any hack.
I had no kernel-syms installed, I have just installed it but I didn't try again to install vmware server because as I said, I installed using any-to-any. I am not sure if the kernel-syms will solve the problem because I still can not see /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h
Having kernel-syms installed does seem to help in my experience. It also seems to keep kernel upgrades on track when they are announced, because it too gets upgraded. Version.h is in /usr/src/linux/include/linux (which, I'm sure you know is just a link to /usr/src/<actual-kernel-version>/include/linux/ If that is not there, your link named /usr/src/linux is broken. It should point to a sub directory named linux-2.6.xx.xx..... Or, your kernel source is incomplete somehow. It would be worth tracking this down, as it will come to haunt you again, (promise) ;-) ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Ionut Vancea
I had the default 10.3 kernel version but I installed nvidia drivers, and opensuse did also the update for the kernel to linux-2.6.22.17-0.1,
ionut@vaio:~> uname -a Linux vaio 2.6.22.17-0.1-default #1 SMP 2008/02/10 20:01:04 UTC x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
ionut@vaio:~> rpm -q kernel-source kernel-source-2.6.22.17-0.1
Do you have linux-kernel-headers installed? -- Kind Regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 5/6/08, Gabriel
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Ionut Vancea
wrote: Do you have linux-kernel-headers installed?
Yes, I had them as I mentioned :). Anyway, I solved, thanks. /Ionut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Ionut Vancea
== The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected. This can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make mrproper" command in your kernel directory. In any case, you may want to rebuild your kernel. ==
After installing a new kernel, you need to run as root in /usr/src/linux: #make oldconfig #make modules_prepare This will recreate version.h and all the rest. I was complaining about this situation for a long time. Most of the other distros need only kernel-headers in order to build agains the running kernel. For some reason (I did not understand it, when opensuse devs tried to explain it), in opensuse you need 200+MB of sources for this. I have opened a bugcase, which is now marked as resolved: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=360026 If you feel like supporting the split of kernel-sources, so there is no need to download 200+MB for every kernel upgrade in order to build third party modules, you can vote for the bug. Cheers -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
If you feel like supporting the split of kernel-sources, so there is no need to download 200+MB for every kernel upgrade in order to build third party modules, you can vote for the bug.
It's marked as resolved... but is it? What is the solution? Or is it just a "not going to fix it because I'm a kernel developer and I would never use kernel headers" thing? Having just the kernel headers like other distros do would be a nice improvement for openSUSE. C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Clayton
It's marked as resolved... but is it? What is the solution? Or is it just a "not going to fix it because I'm a kernel developer and I would never use kernel headers" thing? Having just the kernel headers like other distros do would be a nice improvement for openSUSE.
No, it's more like "this is vmware's problem, as they do not want to opensource the drivers and include them in the kernel" thing. You can read the conversation there in the case. Too sad that more often this attitude happens on opensuse bugzilla - there was a ran a few weeks ago about such a behavior. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
It's marked as resolved... but is it? What is the solution? Or is it just a "not going to fix it because I'm a kernel developer and I would never use kernel headers" thing? Having just the kernel headers like other distros do would be a nice improvement for openSUSE.
No, it's more like "this is vmware's problem, as they do not want to opensource the drivers and include them in the kernel" thing. You can read the conversation there in the case. Too sad that more often this attitude happens on opensuse bugzilla - there was a ran a few weeks ago about such a behavior.
What on Earth does THAT have to do with the kernel header idea? I understand the need to filter through the submitted bugs... but good grief... this is getting rather ridiculous. I did read through the bug, but was desperately hoping that I misread or missed something. The more this stuff happens with openSUSE, the less I see "us" as a community :-( What happened? Does anyone care anymore? C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 07 May 2008, Clayton wrote:
The more this stuff happens with openSUSE, the less I see "us" as a community :-( What happened? Does anyone care anymore?
C.
I firmly think the community thing is strictly applicable to Suse employees they are the community now we are incidentals that no longer count There will no doubt be the people out there that dissagree with me it is for them to prove other wise as i have said in another thread i am beggining to have doubts about the entire novell ruled suse thing they way things are going we will loose users to windBloWs very quickly .. Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:44 PM, peter nikolic
On Wednesday 07 May 2008, Clayton wrote:
The more this stuff happens with openSUSE, the less I see "us" as a community :-( What happened? Does anyone care anymore?
C.
I firmly think the community thing is strictly applicable to Suse employees they are the community now we are incidentals that no longer count
Well, you have as much of a chance of forcing your viewpoint onto the opensuse distro as you do of forcing it on Kubuntu, or Debian, or Slackware. If you get involved, make a solid case, Document the situation , pitch in and do some work, you might convince enough people that your way is best. But carping on a mailing list probably won't do it. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM, John Andersen
Well, you have as much of a chance of forcing your viewpoint onto the opensuse distro as you do of forcing it on Kubuntu, or Debian, or Slackware.
If you get involved, make a solid case, Document the situation , pitch in and do some work, you might convince enough people that your way is best.
But carping on a mailing list probably won't do it.
OK, there is an indicator for how important is the issue (and actually
how active is the community) - its' voting for a bug.
When I filed the bug few months ago, and after I had this unproductive
conversation with the opensuse kernel guy, I decided to ask the
community for help - i.e. tried to convince more people that the
proposal I have is reasonable. Guess what - no one vote for the bug,
nor response to the maillist post.
So, yes I assume, that this is not important for most of the users
here, but not important does not translate to "right". It is not only
for the vmware (btw, they already opensourced their tools and
drivers), but a bunch of webcam drivers (opensource, but not in the
kernel), or if for some reason I want to install nvidia or ati drivers
manually - still it's unreasonable to have the whole kernel source
tree - it is not needed. Just proper
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Sunny
So, yes I assume, that this is not important for most of the users here, but not important does not translate to "right". It is not only for the vmware (btw, they already opensourced their tools and drivers), but a bunch of webcam drivers (opensource, but not in the kernel), or if for some reason I want to install nvidia or ati drivers manually - still it's unreasonable to have the whole kernel source tree - it is not needed. Just proper
-headers should be enough.
I agree iIts "unnecessary" to have the whole kernel source, but its not "unreasonable". "Reasonable" also impacts the package maintainers, etc. With today's disk sized, anyone hurt by having 276meg vs 39meg would probably be unhappy anyway. I suspect the reason it garnered no votes is that virtually nobody sees this as an issue worth spending any scarce maintainer time on, not necessarily because the think its "write or wrong". -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 07 May 2008, John Andersen wrote:
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:44 PM, peter nikolic
wrote: On Wednesday 07 May 2008, Clayton wrote:
The more this stuff happens with openSUSE, the less I see "us" as a community :-( What happened? Does anyone care anymore?
C.
I firmly think the community thing is strictly applicable to Suse employees they are the community now we are incidentals that no longer count
Well, you have as much of a chance of forcing your viewpoint onto the opensuse distro as you do of forcing it on Kubuntu, or Debian, or Slackware.
If you get involved, make a solid case, Document the situation , pitch in and do some work, you might convince enough people that your way is best.
But carping on a mailing list probably won't do it.
-- ----------JSA---------
I do wish people would sort there mail clients OUT there is no need for List mail and PRIVATE mail you only need to reply to list i find it extreemley iritating getting multiple copies of email And as far as CARPING goes .. well mailing list is SUPPOSED to be the focal point for the suse users and if the bigwigs stuck in there ivory towers care not to pay attention to the list then so be it BUT when the shit hts the fan they wont be able to say we did not know just because they are too LAZY to pay attention , IWILL continue to CARP on as you call it i may CARP on a LOT LOUDER yet until some little TWIT PAYS A LITTLE ATTENTIONto the everyday users I hate to CARP on but needs must and all that CARP CARP CARP Pete CARPING ON .. -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Clayton
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Gabriel
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Ionut Vancea
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John Andersen
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peter nikolic
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Sunny