Hi again,
VMWare says this on crashing hosts:
Q: vmware-config.pl completed successfully, but each
time I power on VMware, my Linux host crashes.
A: We see this problem most commonly when a Linux
vendor ships a Linux kernel distribution whose
properties are kernel version x and normal symbols,
then you install a heavily patched kernel (for
example, a Mosix kernel) with the same version number
and normal symbols.
VMware ships pre-built modules with the same
properties as the kernel distribution. For example,
version x and normal symbols. After you install a
heavily patched kernel, vmware-config.pl must be run
again. Because neither kernel has the mangled symbols
property, VMware prebuilt modules are viewed as
compatible and loaded. In fact, the modules are
incompatible and hence crash your machine at run time.
The long-term solution to this problem is to ask that
your distribution vendor always use the mangled
symbols property when building a kernel. Mangled
symbols reflect incompatible interface changes between
kernels, and the VMware prebuilt modules for a
particular Linux release would not be viewed as
compatible with a heavily patched kernel release.
The short-term solution is to run vmware-config.pl
--compile, which will ignore VMware prebuilt modules
and will force a build of modules for your heavily
patched kernel.
--- Ron Heron
Hello,
I, too have had huge problems with VMware hardlocking the system. My previous version 6.3, I had upgraded each time vmware had an upgrade, and it seems that the last version prior to 2.0 didn't crash my system. When I upgraded to 2.0 adn 2.01, I started having crashes again. I opened a ticket with VMware, and they told me to send my dmesg output. Well, on 90% of the crashes, it didn't write anything to the message log. Once, it wrote a "kernel dereferrence to a null pointer" message. But, VMware had already closed my case by then.
Now, I am on 6.4, and thought I would give VMware another try. I was halfway through loading Win2k, when I hard locked again. It may have something to do with networking, because there was a huge data transfer going on via Samba on the same nic.
I was actually a paid up customer on the old versions, but have since to take the plunge again, after the lockups. This last crash really killed my hd, and took almost 4 hours to recover! So, it's a shame, but I can't risk losing my hd for vmware. If anyone get's a solid answer or fix, I would love to hear it so I can use VMware again.
BTW - e2fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/hdxx doesn't work! For some reason, I had to go e2fsck -f -b 0 /dev/hdxx (Roman, try this)
Ron
--- David Herbison
wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Derek Fountain wrote:
Are you using the network modules? Try it without if you are. Have you tried removing your preferences file (from $HOME/.vmware? Have you removed vmware and rerun the installation script? Does it crash if you run it as root?
I never run with the network modules. Tonight I'll try as root, and see what happens. What I don't understand is that it worked perfectly (albeit slowly) with the old hard drive, before I updated xshared. I haven't changed anything.
Er, that about all I can think of at the moment!
thanks for the tips.
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OK, last night I tried runing as root and got the smae problem. I even resinstalled the original xshared package to see if that was causing problems - no. So as a final attempt I'll try reloading the original SuSE kernel (I had compiled my own), and the suggestion below, and if it still doesn't work, I think I'll have to give up with VMware. Pity, because even though it was slow, I liked it, just for things like Autoroute Express and Matlab. David.
Hi again,
VMWare says this on crashing hosts:
Q: vmware-config.pl completed successfully, but each time I power on VMware, my Linux host crashes.
A: We see this problem most commonly when a Linux vendor ships a Linux kernel distribution whose properties are kernel version x and normal symbols, then you install a heavily patched kernel (for example, a Mosix kernel) with the same version number and normal symbols.
VMware ships pre-built modules with the same properties as the kernel distribution. For example, version x and normal symbols. After you install a heavily patched kernel, vmware-config.pl must be run again. Because neither kernel has the mangled symbols property, VMware prebuilt modules are viewed as compatible and loaded. In fact, the modules are incompatible and hence crash your machine at run time.
The long-term solution to this problem is to ask that your distribution vendor always use the mangled symbols property when building a kernel. Mangled symbols reflect incompatible interface changes between kernels, and the VMware prebuilt modules for a particular Linux release would not be viewed as compatible with a heavily patched kernel release.
The short-term solution is to run vmware-config.pl --compile, which will ignore VMware prebuilt modules and will force a build of modules for your heavily patched kernel.
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It's a commercial product so you are entitled to support or maybe your money back. Vmware have always struck me as a very professional outfit, so they'll probably help you chase the problem down.
OK, last night I tried runing as root and got the smae problem. I even resinstalled the original xshared package to see if that was causing problems - no. So as a final attempt I'll try reloading the original SuSE kernel (I had compiled my own), and the suggestion below, and if it still doesn't work, I think I'll have to give up with VMware. Pity, because even though it was slow, I liked it, just for things like Autoroute Express and Matlab.
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I'm still evaluating the product on the 30 license, so I doubt if they'll be interested until I've paid, and of course I'm not interested in paying until I see the thing running stably..... Do you have any experience wih Win4Lin. I've heard good reports, but was a little put off by the kernel hacking installation. On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Derek Fountain wrote:
It's a commercial product so you are entitled to support or maybe your money back. Vmware have always struck me as a very professional outfit, so they'll probably help you chase the problem down.
OK, last night I tried runing as root and got the smae problem. I even resinstalled the original xshared package to see if that was causing problems - no. So as a final attempt I'll try reloading the original SuSE kernel (I had compiled my own), and the suggestion below, and if it still doesn't work, I think I'll have to give up with VMware. Pity, because even though it was slow, I liked it, just for things like Autoroute Express and Matlab.
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On 08-Aug-00 David Herbison wrote:
... I think I'll have to give up with VMware. Pity, because even though it was slow, I liked it, just for things like Autoroute Express and Matlab.
Maybe you've already considered it, but if not then give octave a try.
This can do most of what MatLab can do, and some other things as well
(and recently it has been acquiring some useful "toolkits" as well).
It uses essentially the same language as MatLab. There are differences
of performance where graphics are concerned, though, since it primarily
gerenates graphics with gnuplot. Even here, people are experimenting
with other interfaces.
Ted.
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Hi, inspired by the information about the kernel affecting the runtime behaviour of vmware I tried the vmware-config.pl --compile option. I'm afraid the program still crashed the system. But just for interest's sake I tried the exact kernel that suse ship, and it didn't crash. To be precise, I worked out that including console drivers (ati mach64 in my case) was causing the problem. So at least now I know what was wrong. Pity though, I liked the little penguin appearing at startup! David. David Herbison Design Engineer, Mixed Signal IC-Design Infineon Technologies AG Tel: +49 89 234 26647 Fax: +49 89 234 711815 Email: David.Herbison@infineon.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
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