At 00:33:16 on Monday Monday 22 March 2010, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Stan Goodman [03-21-10 18:17]:

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I refrain for commenting on the attitude betrayed by the page,

but your inclusion portrayed a *comment*

Only partly. What do you think of the quoted paragraph about 'You might try this, it won't work, but it will keep you busy'. To me, it's filled with contempt and "don't give a dam". It's way beyond "We work for nothing and you have to like it or lump it". "Go back to v10.3"? Why not send people back to Windows? All that on a Novell-sponsored page.

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I think the time has come has come to ask if anybody has got Bluetooth to work on v11.1, and if so, what did they do to accomplish this?

cannot offer information on "11.1" but just for your pom, it does work on 11.2 (x86_64).

AEIOU. Apparently it also works under v10.3.

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2010-03-21 at 18:48 -0500, sc wrote:

On Sunday 21 March 2010 06:19:33 pm Stan Goodman wrote:

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Only partly. What do you think of the quoted paragraph about 'You might try this, it won't work, but it will keep you busy'. To me, it's filled with contempt and "don't give a dam". It's way beyond "We work for nothing and you have to like it or lump it". "Go back to v10.3"? Why not send people back to Windows? All that on a Novell-sponsored page.

i think that contempt is in the ear of the beholder -- what i hear from that quote is frustration -- the author did everything they could to fix it or provide a workaround and met too many roadblocks along the way -- as a final measure of exasperation they left the cynical statement in a public place hoping it would draw enough attention that the people with the ability to remove the roadblocks would do so

I agree. It is a sense of humour, which is known to be understood diferent on diferent cultures. A Novell sponsored page... well, kind off. The writers do not necesarily work for Novell. I have written a few things there, it is a wiki. By the way, bluetooth works in 11.0 and 12.0, in gnome, I use it on both versions, but quite differently. No idea about kde. In 11.0 I have to start system service "bluetooth" before gnome sees it. I think it is possible then to see shares from console, configuring I know not what. If it is a system service... And in 11.2 it doesn't use that system service, afaik. It has crashed on me, too. It seems a flaky interface to me. When it works, it is pretty nice and cute. Mmm...? Was that an attempt at humour on my part? >:-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkumzTIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VPTACfR5DRwQU/XbIXoRAVx5a2pv4n 2+4Ani2upNVM6nwwDfOdzF+bMMhV4fjc =+0rm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 22/03/10 01:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Sunday, 2010-03-21 at 18:48 -0500, sc wrote:

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i think that contempt is in the ear of the beholder -- what i hear from that quote is frustration -- the author did everything they could to fix it or provide a workaround and met too many roadblocks along the way -- as a final measure of exasperation they left the cynical statement in a public place hoping it would draw enough attention that the people with the ability to remove the roadblocks would do so I agree. It is a sense of humour, which is known to be understood diferent on diferent cultures.

A Novell sponsored page... well, kind off. The writers do not necesarily work for Novell. I have written a few things there, it is a wiki.

By the way, bluetooth works in 11.0 and 12.0, in gnome, I use it on both versions, but quite differently. No idea about kde. 12.0? Carlos, can you send me a copy from the future too :)

Bluetooth works great for me in 11.2/KDE with a USB dongle (Zoom Bluetooth USB adapter, uses btusb module), with the proviso that I had to update to the latest kbluetooth=0.4.2 from KDE:Backports - the shipped version in 11.2 is useless. With that setup, I can pair devices, do OBEX file transfer, use input devices, etc. etc. quite nicely. Audio support is not working yet, but the next version of kbluetooth supposedly will have a first attempt.

In 11.0 I have to start system service "bluetooth" before gnome sees it. I think it is possible then to see shares from console, configuring I know not what. If it is a system service...

And in 11.2 it doesn't use that system service, afaik. It has crashed on me, too.

It seems a flaky interface to me. When it works, it is pretty nice and cute. Mmm...? Was that an attempt at humour on my part? >:-) I guess its just a question of hardware support, as usual. With certain specific devices everything works great, with others you will have a horrible time.

Stan, which kernel module does your system try to load for your dongle? Do the bluez tools (hcitool, sdptool) work from the commandline? Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org