[opensuse] booting 11.2
Hello SuSE people, I downloaded and installed a clean new 11.2 GM iso 64 bit DVD yesterday. It installed just fine and allowed an ext4 file system. I chose to let it boot from it;s own primary. (Like the other os's I have installed) (Grub dutifully added it to it:s menu.) On it's own first boot It worked very well and I did a few small tweaks to it. Shutdown for the night. Today, I booted up and chose the 11.2 entry in Grub and got this message: boot (hd2,7) filesystem type is ext2fs partition type 0x83 configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst and sat there with the cursor flashing. Have no idea what it is doing or telling me and it won't boot 11.2. Had to shutdown. Something about the filesystem? Ideas anyone? Please? Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 16/11/09 16:35, Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE people,
I downloaded and installed a clean new 11.2 GM iso 64 bit DVD yesterday. It installed just fine and allowed an ext4 file system. I chose to let it boot from it;s own primary. (Like the other os's I have installed) (Grub dutifully added it to it:s menu.) On it's own first boot It worked very well and I did a few small tweaks to it. Shutdown for the night.
Today, I booted up and chose the 11.2 entry in Grub and got this message:
boot (hd2,7) filesystem type is ext2fs partition type 0x83 configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
and sat there with the cursor flashing. Have no idea what it is doing or telling me and it won't boot 11.2. Had to shutdown.
Something about the filesystem? Ideas anyone? Please?
Bob S
Should you find the answer to this problem PLEASE let me know. I am having something very similar to the above: 11.2 GM DVD installs perfectly on my computer, but on the first reboot I get the error message that grub has a problem finding a bootable system (with only 11.2 installed). On my wife's computer 11.2 GM installed OK and *will* EVENTUALLY boot but then the HD "in use" LED remains on until I reboot and do an e2fsck check on the drive (which finds no problems) after which the LED stays off -- until the next boot. I took the same HD with 11.2 installed and put it into another computer I resurrected (and which only has 120MB of RAM). 11.2 booted up without the slightest problem! (The only thing was that it found a different sound card and wanted my input as to what to do with it.) However, I haven't used it for anything so don't know what having only 120MB of RAM will result in :-) . The common HD used in this is that it is one of 2 "matched" (new) 160GB Seagate HDs which I bought 6 months ago. The first one is going back for replacement. Now I am wondering if this, second one, is also to go back for replacement. BC -- I work to live not live to work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Le Monday 16 November 2009 06:35:56 Bob S, vous avez écrit :
Hello SuSE people,
I downloaded and installed a clean new 11.2 GM iso 64 bit DVD yesterday. It installed just fine and allowed an ext4 file system. I chose to let it boot from it;s own primary. (Like the other os's I have installed) (Grub dutifully added it to it:s menu.) On it's own first boot It worked very well and I did a few small tweaks to it. Shutdown for the night.
Today, I booted up and chose the 11.2 entry in Grub and got this message:
boot (hd2,7) filesystem type is ext2fs partition type 0x83 configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
and sat there with the cursor flashing. Have no idea what it is doing or telling me and it won't boot 11.2. Had to shutdown.
Something about the filesystem? Ideas anyone? Please?
Bob S
Hi, I don't know if it is related but I have done 2 different install of OpenSUSE 11.2 this week end (both 32 bits). One fresh install on a netbook from the Live CD (on a USB Key) and one by zypper dist-upgrade. Both were succesfull but: During the install on the netbook, the installer correctly chosed the / partition to be formated (moving from ext3 to ext4), recognised the /home and /windows/ partitions to be mounted (dual boot with win XP). I noticed however that the proposition for GRUB installation was odd: I had GRUB leaving on the MBR, and the installer proposed to install it on dev/sda3 (which is the / partition). So I changed the setting to MBR (on dev/sda). Everything worked like a charm, the dual boot works, no data loss. But I wonder whether if I didn't change the GRUB settings, the system would have boot on the OLD GRUB which is unaware of the new kernel and more importantly can not boot on ext4-formated partitions (am I right ?)... so no boot ! May this explain what happened to you ? Do you know where GRUB was installed ? Matthias PS: I will post the 2 successfull installs (It is nice not to post only when something goes wrong), and maybe go for a bug report about the default choice of GRUB install (still waiting for someone telling me that it is not a bug) -- / \ /_!_\ My e-mail address has just changed. Please note the new one : matthias.titeux@inserm.fr _____________________________________________________________ Matthias Titeux, PhD Département de génétique des maladies cutanées et allergiques dans des modèles animaux et chez l'homme. INSERM U563 - CPTP Pavillon Lefebvre, 5ème étage CHU Purpan BP3028 31024 Toulouse cedex 03 __________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 16 November 2009 08:16:41 Matthias Titeux wrote:
Le Monday 16 November 2009 06:35:56 Bob S, vous avez écrit :
Hello SuSE people,
I downloaded and installed a clean new 11.2 GM iso 64 bit DVD yesterday. It installed just fine and allowed an ext4 file system. I chose to let it boot from it;s own primary. (Like the other os's I have installed) (Grub dutifully added it to it:s menu.) On it's own first boot It worked very well and I did a few small tweaks to it. Shutdown for the night.
Today, I booted up and chose the 11.2 entry in Grub and got this message:
boot (hd2,7) filesystem type is ext2fs partition type 0x83 configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
and sat there with the cursor flashing. Have no idea what it is doing or telling me and it won't boot 11.2. Had to shutdown.
Something about the filesystem? Ideas anyone? Please?
Bob S
Hi, I don't know if it is related but I have done 2 different install of OpenSUSE 11.2 this week end (both 32 bits). One fresh install on a netbook from the Live CD (on a USB Key) and one by zypper dist-upgrade. Both were succesfull but:
During the install on the netbook, the installer correctly chosed the / partition to be formated (moving from ext3 to ext4), recognised the /home and /windows/ partitions to be mounted (dual boot with win XP). I noticed however that the proposition for GRUB installation was odd: I had GRUB leaving on the MBR, and the installer proposed to install it on dev/sda3 (which is the / partition). So I changed the setting to MBR (on dev/sda).
Hi to you too, No, my grub proposal was just the opposite. It proposed the mbr and I changed it to the new proposed root partition (hd2,7) (I have 3 drives) Looking at the proposed grub menu it seemed correct, showing my other os's. At the first reboot when the grub menu came up 11.2 wasn't there. so I edited the grub file and added it. When I tried to boot it I got the message I reported above.
Everything worked like a charm, the dual boot works, no data loss.
But I wonder whether if I didn't change the GRUB settings, the system would have boot on the OLD GRUB which is unaware of the new kernel and more importantly can not boot on ext4-formated partitions (am I right ?)... so no boot ! May this explain what happened to you ?
It could be, but would have to have been the opposite way, I have never really understood the way grub works.
Do you know where GRUB was installed ?
I assume where it was told, but who knows? Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Le Monday 16 November 2009 21:57:10 Bob S, vous avez écrit :
On Monday 16 November 2009 08:16:41 Matthias Titeux wrote:
Le Monday 16 November 2009 06:35:56 Bob S, vous avez écrit :
Hello SuSE people,
Hi to you too,
No, my grub proposal was just the opposite. It proposed the mbr and I changed it to the new proposed root partition (hd2,7) (I have 3 drives) Looking at the proposed grub menu it seemed correct, showing my other os's. At the first reboot when the grub menu came up 11.2 wasn't there. so I edited the grub file and added it. When I tried to boot it I got the message I reported above.
Hi Bob, Ok the fact that 11.2 was not a choice in the GRUB menu let me think that your are booting with the OLD GRUB (prior to 11.2 install). This GRUB version is not able to load ext4 partitions (I have read it on this list, dunno where at present). So, even if you manually add the link to the new installed kernel, it wont be able to load it. So I think that GRUB was previously installed on the MBR and that during 11.2 install you installed the NEW GRUB on the root partition, without erasing the old one on the MBR, which seems to prevail. If i am wrong please someone reading this correct me. Cheers Matthias -- / \ /_!_\ My e-mail address has just changed. Please note the new one : matthias.titeux@inserm.fr _____________________________________________________________ Matthias Titeux, PhD Département de génétique des maladies cutanées et allergiques dans des modèles animaux et chez l'homme. INSERM U563 - CPTP Pavillon Lefebvre, 5ème étage CHU Purpan BP3028 31024 Toulouse cedex 03 __________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2009 12:46 PM, Matthias Titeux wrote:
Le Monday 16 November 2009 21:57:10 Bob S, vous avez écrit :
Hi Bob, Ok the fact that 11.2 was not a choice in the GRUB menu let me think that your are booting with the OLD GRUB (prior to 11.2 install). This GRUB version is not able to load ext4 partitions (I have read it on this list, dunno where at present).
Yes, that is correct. Support for grub reading ext4 is added on oS as a patch. In theory we would need grub 2.
So, even if you manually add the link to the new installed kernel, it wont be able to load it. So I think that GRUB was previously installed on the MBR and that during 11.2 install you installed the NEW GRUB on the root partition, without erasing the old one on the MBR, which seems to prevail.
If i am wrong please someone reading this correct me.
Yes, I think you are correct. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-ex-factory "Emerald" GM) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksDAd0ACgkQU92UU+smfQVebwCcCzmdKKIc80967a8hb+O+iBXg kVsAoJSeDZH8DjkYVKtpPTONQrCp94p6 =B2iJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 05:46:33 Matthias Titeux wrote:
So I think that GRUB was previously installed on the MBR and that during 11.2 install you installed the NEW GRUB on the root partition, without erasing the old one on the MBR, which seems to prevail.
If it is used grub version prior to 11.1 and it has to read root partition directly, to find kernel and initrd then it will fail. The cure is to edit old grub installation menu.lst and replace current etry to boot new installation with: title New Installation rootnoverify (hdx,y) chainloader +1 that will transfer boot control to grub stage 0 installed in a boot sector of the root partition, which is a new version that knows about ext4. -- Regards, Rajko openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 06:46:33 Matthias Titeux wrote:
Le Monday 16 November 2009 21:57:10 Bob S, vous avez écrit :
On Monday 16 November 2009 08:16:41 Matthias Titeux wrote:
Le Monday 16 November 2009 06:35:56 Bob S, vous avez écrit :
Hello SuSE people,
Hi to you too,
No, my grub proposal was just the opposite. It proposed the mbr and I changed it to the new proposed root partition (hd2,7) (I have 3 drives) Looking at the proposed grub menu it seemed correct, showing my other os's. At the first reboot when the grub menu came up 11.2 wasn't there. so I edited the grub file and added it. When I tried to boot it I got the message I reported above.
Hi Bob, Ok the fact that 11.2 was not a choice in the GRUB menu let me think that your are booting with the OLD GRUB (prior to 11.2 install). This GRUB version is not able to load ext4 partitions (I have read it on this list, dunno where at present). So, even if you manually add the link to the new installed kernel, it wont be able to load it. So I think that GRUB was previously installed on the MBR and that during 11.2 install you installed the NEW GRUB on the root partition, without erasing the old one on the MBR, which seems to prevail.
If i am wrong please someone reading this correct me.
Hi Matthias, Unbelievable! You are absolutely correct that that the MBR stage 1 is from 11.0 or even 10.2 or 10.3. I have several os's that boot from that. I always install grub to the / partitions, and that is what I did with the install of 11.2. So, we are saying that 11.2 will not boot from that? Incredible. This is a new revised grub? ! How are we supposed to know that? Nothing in the installation notes. Guess I will have to reinstall 11.2 as ext3 unless I want to muck everything up. Thanks so much. Now off to answer Felix who provided more insight into what you provided me. Thanks again. Will post my results here. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 23:11:32 Bob S wrote: ...
Guess I will have to reinstall 11.2 as ext3 unless I want to muck everything up. Thanks so much. Now off to answer Felix who provided more insight into what you provided me.
Wouldn't be easier to install grub from 11.1 or 11.2 that knows about ext4. That way you'll be able to boot other current distros that use ext4, and that means all major ones. -- Regards, Rajko openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 18 November 2009 19:41:33 Rajko M. wrote:
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 23:11:32 Bob S wrote: ...
Guess I will have to reinstall 11.2 as ext3 unless I want to muck everything up. Thanks so much. Now off to answer Felix who provided more insight into what you provided me.
Wouldn't be easier to install grub from 11.1 or 11.2 that knows about ext4. That way you'll be able to boot other current distros that use ext4, and that means all major ones.
-- Regards, Rajko
Rajko, You are probably right but it scares me to death that the other os's that I have won't boot then. Not sure that I know how to do that and worse, that I can do that safely. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/11/18 23:58 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
it scares me to death that the other os's that I have won't boot then. Not sure that I know how to do that and worse, that I can do that safely.
There's no reason to think that 11.2's Grub properly installed to the 11.2 / or /boot partition can not be chainloaded to from an older Grub, regardless what filesystem is on 11.2's / and/or /boot. -- The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 1 Corinthians 7:3 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 18 November 2009 22:58:30 Bob S wrote:
Rajko,
You are probably right but it scares me to death that the other os's that I have won't boot then. Not sure that I know how to do that and worse, that I can do that safely.
On system with 2 hard disks and 2 existing installations on second drive (Ubuntu and openSUSE) the installer picked them both up without a glitch. They are both bootable with their own boot menu, as they both have grub installed in a respective root partitions. It is just funny to see old grub boot menu coming up after initial one. Of course depends on your configuration YMMV. There is no help for that, except to come back to solve new problems if they show up. -- Regards, Rajko openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 19 November 2009 00:31:44 Rajko M. wrote:
On Wednesday 18 November 2009 22:58:30 Bob S wrote:
Rajko,
You are probably right but it scares me to death that the other os's that I have won't boot then. Not sure that I know how to do that and worse, that I can do that safely.
On system with 2 hard disks and 2 existing installations on second drive (Ubuntu and openSUSE) the installer picked them both up without a glitch. They are both bootable with their own boot menu, as they both have grub installed in a respective root partitions.
It is just funny to see old grub boot menu coming up after initial one.
Of course depends on your configuration YMMV. There is no help for that, except to come back to solve new problems if they show up.
Well what I finally ended up doing was adding 11.2 to my existing grub menu as a "rootnoverify" chainloader. And yes, the opposite of you, it brings up the new 11.2 grub menu and it can be booted from there. Funny thing is that I can boot the other systems from that menu also.That leads me to believe that the new grub will also boot the ext3 systems. Anyway it works now so I'll leave it for awhile. Now I'll have to find out why the other os's won't allow the 11.2 partitions to be seen. Because they are ext4? They should be compatible I would think. Will report back on that. Anyway Thanks to everybody who pitched in with ideas and advice. This is a great list. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/11/19 23:24 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
Well what I finally ended up doing was adding 11.2 to my existing grub menu as a "rootnoverify" chainloader.
Makes you wonder why verify might ever be required, doesn't it?
And yes, the opposite of you, it brings up the new 11.2 grub menu and it can be booted from there. Funny thing is that I can boot the other systems from that menu also.That leads me to believe that the new grub will also boot the ext3 systems.
Why would you think otherwise? Support for mature filesystem types hasn't been dropped.
Now I'll have to find out why the other os's won't allow the 11.2 partitions to be seen. Because they are ext4?
Of course. Until you furnish them with kernels that support ext4, you're out of luck. -- The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 1 Corinthians 7:3 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 19 November 2009 23:35:25 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/11/19 23:24 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
Well what I finally ended up doing was adding 11.2 to my existing grub menu as a "rootnoverify" chainloader.
Makes you wonder why verify might ever be required, doesn't it?
And yes, the opposite of you, it brings up the new 11.2 grub menu and it can be booted from there. Funny thing is that I can boot the other systems from that menu also.That leads me to believe that the new grub will also boot the ext3 systems.
Why would you think otherwise? Support for mature filesystem types hasn't been dropped.
Oh, you know Felix, Stuff happens and over the years I have come to believe that I am the person to discover it.
Now I'll have to find out why the other os's won't allow the 11.2 partitions to be seen. Because they are ext4?
Of course. Until you furnish them with kernels that support ext4, you're out of luck.
Is there any such animal out there? or are we talking compiling a kernel without knowing if it will work? Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Bob S <911@sanctum.com> [11-20-09 22:25]:
On Thursday 19 November 2009 23:35:25 Felix Miata wrote:
Of course. Until you furnish them with kernels that support ext4, you're out of luck.
Is there any such animal out there? or are we talking compiling a kernel without knowing if it will work?
Bob, 11.2 distribution kernels support ext4. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 20 November 2009 22:59:07 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Bob S <911@sanctum.com> [11-20-09 22:25]:
On Thursday 19 November 2009 23:35:25 Felix Miata wrote:
Of course. Until you furnish them with kernels that support ext4, you're out of luck.
Is there any such animal out there? or are we talking compiling a kernel without knowing if it will work?
Bob, 11.2 distribution kernels support ext4.
Yes, thanks Patrick, I meant for the older distros like 10.2,, 11.0 etc. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 19 November 2009 22:24:18 Bob S wrote:
And yes, the opposite of you, it brings up the new 11.2 grub menu and it can be booted from there.
That is exactly what I see :) One main boot menu, and if I select another Linux/openSUSE I get boot menu for that installation. -- Regards, Rajko openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/20/2009 05:24 AM, Bob S wrote:
Now I'll have to find out why the other os's won't allow the 11.2 partitions to be seen. Because they are ext4? They should be compatible I would think. Will report back on that.
No, of course they are not compatible. Ext4 is relatively new, so that an older system may not be able to read it at all. Do not even attempt to write! And older grub doesn't support it. Worse, current grub from other distros may or may not support booting from ext4, as support has been added as a patch by suse. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2-ex-factory "Emerald" GM) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksHx7YACgkQU92UU+smfQUzZwCfRCv+XJ/dHlIEsX8/SKrHur8S cK4An1IBCsfNI367/RPTegIlbvfxoIUt =lhco -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 16 November 2009 00:35:56 Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE people,
I downloaded and installed a clean new 11.2 GM iso 64 bit DVD yesterday. It installed just fine and allowed an ext4 file system. I chose to let it boot from it;s own primary. (Like the other os's I have installed) (Grub dutifully added it to it:s menu.) On it's own first boot It worked very well and I did a few small tweaks to it. Shutdown for the night.
Today, I booted up and chose the 11.2 entry in Grub and got this message:
boot (hd2,7) filesystem type is ext2fs partition type 0x83 configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
and sat there with the cursor flashing. Have no idea what it is doing or telling me and it won't boot 11.2. Had to shutdown.
Something about the filesystem? Ideas anyone? Please?
Replying to my own post still trying to figure out why 11.2 won't boot. I got the kernel version today and edited the primary menu.lst putting in the kernel version, initrd, etc, etc. and tried to boot. No good, I still get the message I posted originally (above) but it now has added all of the new stuff from the edit. OK, now I try a chainloader approach. No good. So now I boot to the DVD and invoke the rescue system and bring up Grub. I type in root (hd2,7) and grub tells me that is invalid and not a partition. (I have 3 disks abd 11.2 isinstalled on a logical partition) Why? Should not make any difference. One thing that really bothers me when I try to boot from menu.lst and it fails it always identifies it as ext2fs partition type 0x83. 11.2 was istalled as ext4. Grub shouldn't care what the filesystem is, Right? Any ideas, tips, would be really welcome. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/11/17 00:00 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
On Monday 16 November 2009 00:35:56 Bob S wrote:
I downloaded and installed a clean new 11.2 GM iso 64 bit DVD yesterday. It installed just fine and allowed an ext4 file system. I chose to let it boot from it;s own primary. (Like the other os's I have installed) (Grub dutifully added it to it:s menu.) On it's own first boot It worked very well and I did a few small tweaks to it. Shutdown for the night.
Today, I booted up and chose the 11.2 entry in Grub and got this message:
boot (hd2,7) filesystem type is ext2fs partition type 0x83 configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
and sat there with the cursor flashing. Have no idea what it is doing or telling me and it won't boot 11.2. Had to shutdown.
Something about the filesystem? Ideas anyone? Please?
Replying to my own post still trying to figure out why 11.2 won't boot. I got the kernel version today and edited the primary menu.lst putting in the kernel version, initrd, etc, etc. and tried to boot. No good, I still get the message I posted originally (above) but it now has added all of the new stuff from the edit. OK, now I try a chainloader approach. No good.
So now I boot to the DVD and invoke the rescue system and bring up Grub. I type in root (hd2,7) and grub tells me that is invalid and not a partition. (I have 3 disks abd 11.2 isinstalled on a logical partition) Why? Should not make any difference.
One thing that really bothers me when I try to boot from menu.lst and it fails it always identifies it as ext2fs partition type 0x83. 11.2 was istalled as ext4. Grub shouldn't care what the filesystem is, Right?
Any ideas, tips, would be really welcome.
Just ideas, since I've not tried ext4 yet, and don't plan to as long as I'm installing to any system that has distro version(s) installed that may not support ext4. Since most of my systems are multiboot, it may be a very long time before I try ext4. That said, ext4 is an evolution of ext2. Grub tells type 0x83 because that's what it reads from the partition table, and all ext2 partitions (ext2, ext3, ext4) use that same 0x83 type in the tables. With all the troubles during 11.2 development with boot failure, I suspect you just have another iteration of those troubles, which I suspect may be a failure to replace the old Grub from your prior installation (10.3? 11.0? 11.1? Ubuntu? Fedora? Debian? Mandriva? other?) with the ext4-supporting Grub in 11.2. You might confirm this by reinstalling but selecting ext3 instead of ext4 as the boot/root partition format. Do you have any other OS installed on the system? If so, does it boot, and can it access your ext4 partition? If yes but no, you may be better off avoiding ext4 until it matures more, or until you no longer need an older version to be able to access the newer version, which ordinarily could be used to repair a messed up newer. Do you understand how to work from a Grub prompt? If so, it may pay to do some experimenting by not using Grub menus, booting manually by typing in various alternative cmdline settings to see if behavior changes. -- The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 1 Corinthians 7:3 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 01:03:12 Felix Miata wrote: .....<snippedall of the previous stuff>.........
Just ideas, since I've not tried ext4 yet, and don't plan to as long as I'm installing to any system that has distro version(s) installed that may not support ext4. Since most of my systems are multiboot, it may be a very long time before I try ext4.
That said, ext4 is an evolution of ext2. Grub tells type 0x83 because that's what it reads from the partition table, and all ext2 partitions (ext2, ext3, ext4) use that same 0x83 type in the tables.
Yes I assumed it would still be 0x83 in ext 4 but it threw me that it was identifying as ext2 (ext3 with jounaling) as a given.
With all the troubles during 11.2 development with boot failure, I suspect you just have another iteration of those troubles, which I suspect may be a failure to replace the old Grub from your prior installation (10.3? 11.0? 11.1? Ubuntu? Fedora? Debian? Mandriva? other?) with the ext4-supporting Grub in 11.2. You might confirm this by reinstalling but selecting ext3 instead of ext4 as the boot/root partition format.
Well, you are right, Don't remember exactly but it would be a SuSE, 10.2, 10.3. or 11.0. I guess that I will have to re-install 11.2 as ext3 because I don't know if a new "revised" grub will handle my other os's.
Do you have any other OS installed on the system? If so, does it boot, and can it access your ext4 partition? If yes but no, you may be better off avoiding ext4 until it matures more, or until you no longer need an older version to be able to access the newer version, which ordinarily could be used to repair a messed up newer.
Yes, as stated above. At first the other os's would not boot because of the 11.2 entries in fstab. Once I removed them they booted fine. (My own idiosyncrasie. I like to have every partition on every os mounted within the system that I have chosen to run so that I can access any os, any partition whenever I want or need to.)
Do you understand how to work from a Grub prompt? If so, it may pay to do some experimenting by not using Grub menus, booting manually by typing in various alternative cmdline settings to see if behavior changes. --
Yes. as stated above. I ran grub from the rescue system on the DVD and tried many iterations of the grub prompt without successfully booting 11.2. I guess it is time I made a grub boot disk and/or reinstalled 11.2 as ext3/ I think you must be more perceptive than I when you thought about the problems associated with the new grub and ext4 as to their relationship with other os's. Would have been nice to have known these things beforehand.
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Bob S <911@sanctum.com> wrote:
On Monday 16 November 2009 00:35:56 Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE people,
I downloaded and installed a clean new 11.2 GM iso 64 bit DVD yesterday. It installed just fine and allowed an ext4 file system. I chose to let it boot from it;s own primary. (Like the other os's I have installed) (Grub dutifully added it to it:s menu.) On it's own first boot It worked very well and I did a few small tweaks to it. Shutdown for the night.
Today, I booted up and chose the 11.2 entry in Grub and got this message:
boot (hd2,7) filesystem type is ext2fs partition type 0x83 configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
and sat there with the cursor flashing. Have no idea what it is doing or telling me and it won't boot 11.2. Had to shutdown.
Something about the filesystem? Ideas anyone? Please?
Replying to my own post still trying to figure out why 11.2 won't boot. I got the kernel version today and edited the primary menu.lst putting in the kernel version, initrd, etc, etc. and tried to boot. No good, I still get the message I posted originally (above) but it now has added all of the new stuff from the edit. OK, now I try a chainloader approach. No good.
So now I boot to the DVD and invoke the rescue system and bring up Grub. I type in root (hd2,7) and grub tells me that is invalid and not a partition. (I have 3 disks abd 11.2 isinstalled on a logical partition) Why? Should not make any difference.
One thing that really bothers me when I try to boot from menu.lst and it fails it always identifies it as ext2fs partition type 0x83. 11.2 was istalled as ext4. Grub shouldn't care what the filesystem is, Right?
Any ideas, tips, would be really welcome.
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Bob, I doubt it is the path the the kernel that's the problem here... Not sure what is. Did you configure you FS's as ext2 or ext3? Boris. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 14:22:30 Boris Epstein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Bob S <911@sanctum.com> wrote:
,,,<snip a bunch>...........
One thing that really bothers me when I try to boot from menu.lst and it fails it always identifies it as ext2fs partition type 0x83. 11.2 was istalled as ext4. Grub shouldn't care what the filesystem is, Right?
Any ideas, tips, would be really welcome.
Bob S
Bob,
I doubt it is the path the the kernel that's the problem here... Not sure what is.
Did you configure you FS's as ext2 or ext3?
Boris., Thanks for replying. Used the new ext4. I think that others in the list are pointing me in the right direction. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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