[opensuse] future of xmms
Has xmms been discontinued for 10.3? I've downloaded 10.3 RC1 and configured a number of software repositories. However, I've been unable to find a version for 10.3. I do prefer it as a simple alternative for the all-embracing media players of one type or another. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place or it has been ported as yet. Eddie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
eddie wrote:
Has xmms been discontinued for 10.3? I've downloaded 10.3 RC1 and configured a number of software repositories. However, I've been unable to find a version for 10.3. I do prefer it as a simple alternative for the all-embracing media players of one type or another. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place or it has been ported as yet.
Eddie
Comments to several packages in the factory changelog http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/ChangeL... indicates XMMS has been dropped, such as: ++++ irssi-extra: - drop l33tmusic (xmms dropped) But I see no change in the log for the XMMS package itself, perhaps it was discussed/posted elsewhere. Best regards Sylvester -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
eddie wrote:
<snip> <snip> But I see no change in the log for the XMMS package itself, perhaps it was discussed/posted elsewhere.
I found this in the mailing list archive for factory: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-09/msg00062.html Which, when you read through the thread, ends up in creating the GNOME:/GNOME1 repo, found here http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/GNOME1/
Best regards Sylvester
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What is the alternative to xmms? As my disk collapsed I was intending installing 10.3 asap; just wondering what else will be lost. ==John ffitch -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jpff wrote:
What is the alternative to xmms? As my disk collapsed I was intending installing 10.3 asap; just wondering what else will be lost. ==John ffitch
As pointed out earlier in this exact thread, try Audacious http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-09/msg01706.html If you insist on continuing to use xmms, the GNOME1 repo is created (also from this thread): http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-09/msg01701.html Best regards Sylvester -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday, 27. September 2007, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
jpff wrote:
What is the alternative to xmms? As my disk collapsed I was intending installing 10.3 asap; just wondering what else will be lost. ==John ffitch
As pointed out earlier in this exact thread, try Audacious http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-09/msg01706.html
If you insist on continuing to use xmms, the GNOME1 repo is created (also from this thread): http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-09/msg01701.html
Best regards Sylvester
I changed for Audacious, it indeed replaces xmms very well. Thierry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 27 2007 09:13, jpff wrote:
What is the alternative to xmms? As my disk collapsed I was intending installing 10.3 asap; just wondering what else will be lost.
packman still has xmms (well, at least in 10.2) -- and otherwise resort to mplayer ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 27 2007 09:13, jpff wrote:
What is the alternative to xmms? As my disk collapsed I was intending installing 10.3 asap; just wondering what else will be lost.
packman still has xmms (well, at least in 10.2) -- and otherwise resort to mplayer ;-)
Boy, there sure are a lot of media players for Linux. I use Amarok and Banshee. Has anyone ever done a big comparison of the various ones? -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Linux Brain Dump - Linux Notes, HOWTOs and Tutorials: http://www.linuxbraindump.org Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jonathan Arnold wrote:
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 27 2007 09:13, jpff wrote:
What is the alternative to xmms? As my disk collapsed I was intending installing 10.3 asap; just wondering what else will be lost.
packman still has xmms (well, at least in 10.2) -- and otherwise resort to mplayer ;-)
Boy, there sure are a lot of media players for Linux. I use Amarok and Banshee. Has anyone ever done a big comparison of the various ones?
Probably not recently - I also like kaffeine (kde front end to xine) Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
What is the alternative to xmms? As my disk collapsed I was intending installing 10.3 asap; just wondering what else will be lost.
Boy, there sure are a lot of media players for Linux. I use Amarok and Banshee. Has anyone ever done a big comparison of the various ones?
Probably not recently - I also like kaffeine (kde front end to xine)
I'm a musician and have used xmms for years for practice (I play along with various recordings). Crazy as it sounds, I actually use Amarox for media management (I like it, it's a cross between iTunes (a little too rigid) and xmms playlists (a little too loose). I then drag and drop the files I want to practice with into xmms. The one and only reason for that, is, that with xmms I can use the keyboard to "seek" forward and backwards while the song is playing. So if I have to practice a small difficult section of a song I can just tap the left-arrow key and hear it again. I can't do that in Amarok, even in the little player window, which is disappointing. However, this thread got me to looking for a replacement, and I've found "KPlayer" which fills that need for me. So I guess I just moved from xmms to KPlayer :-) -- ---------------------- System Administrator - Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com http://jwadmin.blogspot.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/2/07, Jonathan Wilson
The one and only reason for that, is, that with xmms I can use the keyboard to "seek" forward and backwards while the song is playing. So if I have to practice a small difficult section of a song I can just tap the left-arrow key and hear it again. I can't do that in Amarok, even in the little player window, which is disappointing.
The first hit in google for "xmms replacement" is this one: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Xmms_replacement The conclusion is audacios - especially the author of the article says it can be navigated with the cursor keys (a little bit not satisfying for him, but ...) Cheers -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sunny wrote:
On 10/2/07, Jonathan Wilson
wrote: The one and only reason for that, is, that with xmms I can use the keyboard to "seek" forward and backwards while the song is playing. So if I have to practice a small difficult section of a song I can just tap the left-arrow key and hear it again. I can't do that in Amarok, even in the little player window, which is disappointing.
The first hit in google for "xmms replacement" is this one: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Xmms_replacement
The conclusion is audacios - especially the author of the article says it can be navigated with the cursor keys (a little bit not satisfying for him, but ...)
Cheers
Another interesting project is qmmp http://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/index_en.html Audacious would be my choice, if it worked properly :p I have some serious issues with both 1.3.x and the latest 1.4 versions. 2 that bugs me the most: 1. When load all my music, and save a playlist, on the next startup of audacious, the playlist is lost (discarded) due to a parsing error in their playlist parser. They are working on that one. 2. The window of audacious is "sticky" on my system. I've tried several different window managers etc, but it does not help. "Sticky" in the sense, that when i move around the main window, then release the mouse button, the window still follows the cursor, for the same amount of time as the original move took. Best regards Sylvester -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jonathan Wilson wrote:
What is the alternative to xmms? As my disk collapsed I was intending installing 10.3 asap; just wondering what else will be lost. Boy, there sure are a lot of media players for Linux. I use Amarok and Banshee. Has anyone ever done a big comparison of the various ones? Probably not recently - I also like kaffeine (kde front end to xine)
I'm a musician and have used xmms for years for practice (I play along with various recordings).
Crazy as it sounds, I actually use Amarox for media management (I like it, it's a cross between iTunes (a little too rigid) and xmms playlists (a little too loose). I then drag and drop the files I want to practice with into xmms.
The one and only reason for that, is, that with xmms I can use the keyboard to "seek" forward and backwards while the song is playing. So if I have to practice a small difficult section of a song I can just tap the left-arrow key and hear it again. I can't do that in Amarok, even in the little player window, which is disappointing.
What version of Amarok are you using? The arrow keys move forward and backwards in a song for me... -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Linux Brain Dump - Linux Notes, HOWTOs and Tutorials: http://www.linuxbraindump.org Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jonathan Arnold wrote:
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
Boy, there sure are a lot of media players for Linux. I use Amarok and Banshee. Has anyone ever done a big comparison of the various ones?
Actually I've been using xmms from the very beginning of my using Linux(couple of years probably, started with 9.3), but now I've switched to Amarok, and I really find it very comfortable. It has global hotkeys stuff, which I find very useful, so you can control it without actually switching to it's window. It has couple of other features (cover manager, collections and context, etc) which I really like more and more... -- Sergey Mkrtchyan, PhD Student @ Department of Physics & Astronomy, Faculty of Science, University of Waterloo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2007-02-10 at 18:26 -0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote:
Jonathan Arnold wrote:
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
Boy, there sure are a lot of media players for Linux. I use Amarok and Banshee. Has anyone ever done a big comparison of the various ones?
Actually I've been using xmms from the very beginning of my using Linux(couple of years probably, started with 9.3), but now I've switched to Amarok, and I really find it very comfortable. It has global hotkeys stuff, which I find very useful, so you can control it without actually switching to it's window. It has couple of other features (cover manager, collections and context, etc) which I really like more and more...
And it seems no way to set the usb-headset as your sound out device, only speakers. :( -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Oct 3 2007 06:05, Mike McMullin wrote:
On Tue, 2007-02-10 at 18:26 -0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote:
Actually I've been using xmms from the very beginning of my using Linux(couple of years probably, started with 9.3), but now I've switched to Amarok, and I really find it very comfortable. It has global hotkeys stuff, which I find very useful, so you can control it without actually switching to it's window. It has couple of other features (cover manager, collections and context, etc) which I really like more and more...
And it seems no way to set the usb-headset as your sound out device, only speakers. :(
no way in xmms or no way in amarok? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 12:13 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Oct 3 2007 06:05, Mike McMullin wrote:
On Tue, 2007-02-10 at 18:26 -0400, Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote:
Actually I've been using xmms from the very beginning of my using Linux(couple of years probably, started with 9.3), but now I've switched to Amarok, and I really find it very comfortable. It has global hotkeys stuff, which I find very useful, so you can control it without actually switching to it's window. It has couple of other features (cover manager, collections and context, etc) which I really like more and more...
And it seems no way to set the usb-headset as your sound out device, only speakers. :(
no way in xmms or no way in amarok?
amarok, xmms and audacious both have it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-09-24 at 10:53 +0100, eddie wrote:
Has xmms been discontinued for 10.3? I've downloaded 10.3 RC1 and configured a number of software repositories. However, I've been unable to find a version for 10.3. I do prefer it as a simple alternative for the all-embracing media players of one type or another. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place or it has been ported as yet.
If I remember correctly (I looked on this about two years ago), xmms has been unsupported for some long time: development branched in two or three projects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmms XMMS has continued to use GTK+ 1.x toolkit, although a major revision (2.x) has been available for several years. The primary reason for this reluctance to upgrade was the fact that many XMMS plugins (written by third parties) were dependent on the older version of GTK+ to function properly (about boxes and configuration dialogs). Many software developers also consider the XMMS codebase to be poorly designed and difficult to maintain. These factors led to various forks and related projects: * The Beep Media Player, a fork of XMMS code that uses GTK+ 2, started around 2003 o BMPx, the remade continuation of Beep Media Player, started around the end of 2005 o Audacious, a fork from Beep Media Player started around 2005 when BMP development ceased in favor of BMPx * A lesser known GTK+ 2 fork (named XMMS2, just like the XMMS2 successor/replacement), by Mohammed Sameer. This project has since been discontinued. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG95MntTMYHG2NR9URAi3qAJ4tvhQrkkGRR1K30ZIpf9MLjfz6RgCePIjO GsHg7dKqlVDDCOuLJDFDMnE= =8MrR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 24 September 2007 5:53 am, eddie wrote:
I do prefer it as a simple alternative for the all-embracing media players of one type or another.
Try Audacious: a fork of another fork of xmms. It's under current development. It's what I've been using for the last year. Give it a try! http://audacious-media-player.org/Main_Page -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-24-09 at 07:19 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
On Monday 24 September 2007 5:53 am, eddie wrote:
I do prefer it as a simple alternative for the all-embracing media players of one type or another.
Try Audacious: a fork of another fork of xmms. It's under current development. It's what I've been using for the last year. Give it a try!
Nice. I like the output plugin control that allows me to switch the hardware over to my USB headset. I find that too many sounds apps make you go hunting for a way to do it, and then disappoint you. Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 24 2007 07:19, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
On Monday 24 September 2007 5:53 am, eddie wrote:
I do prefer it as a simple alternative for the all-embracing media players of one type or another.
Try Audacious: a fork of another fork of xmms. It's under current development. It's what I've been using for the last year. Give it a try!
For being a fork, audacious behaves much too different. If anyone is interested in forwarding some bug reports, have a look at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=219589 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
participants (13)
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Carlos E. R.
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eddie
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Jan Engelhardt
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Jonathan Arnold
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Jonathan Wilson
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Jorge Fábregas
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jpff
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Mike McMullin
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Sergey Mkrtchyan
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Sloan
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Sunny
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Sylvester Lykkehus
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Thierry de Coulon