any reason corel offers a demo word perfect for windows but not for linux
On Saturday 05 July 2003 09:47, illustre wrote:
any reason corel offers a demo word perfect for windows but not for linux
'cos they're a bunch of morons. They dangled a Linux version of WP a couple of years ago, took loads of people's money (including mine) then refused to listen when everyone screamed "it doesn't work!". When the screaming got too loud they dropped the product completely, leaving everyone who'd bought it high and dry. I used to have a lot of sympathy for Corel, but not any more. The sooner they go bust the better. I switched my Windows word processing platform from Wordperfect back to Microsoft Word, I was that disgusted. /me steps off of soapbox :o) -- "...our desktop is falling behind stability-wise and feature wise to KDE ...when I went to Mexico in December to the facility where we launched gnome, they had all switched to KDE3." - Miguel de Icaza, March 2003
Derek, I was not overly impressed with Corel Linux. I had problems loading it on older hardware which I noted to them and never saw a resolution. Unlike linuxes like Slackware, many do not support older hardware. Older hardware is ideal for firewall's or small mail servers. I have some documents in WP format, guess I need to load an older machine with slakware to change the format of these documents to something I can actually use again. Abraham Derek Fountain wrote:
On Saturday 05 July 2003 09:47, illustre wrote:
any reason corel offers a demo word perfect for windows but not for linux
'cos they're a bunch of morons. They dangled a Linux version of WP a couple of years ago, took loads of people's money (including mine) then refused to listen when everyone screamed "it doesn't work!". When the screaming got too loud they dropped the product completely, leaving everyone who'd bought it high and dry.
I used to have a lot of sympathy for Corel, but not any more. The sooner they go bust the better. I switched my Windows word processing platform from Wordperfect back to Microsoft Word, I was that disgusted.
/me steps off of soapbox :o)
-- Abraham Bloom, CISSP | The New Testament offers the basis for modern abrahambloom@comcast.net | computer coding theory, in the form of an X/motif/c/shell/perl | affirmation of the binary number system. Sys V/BSD/Linux/Sco | | But let your communication be Yea, yea; nay, | nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh | of evil. -- Matthew 5:37
We run Debian on the older hardware just fine. We use the SuSE for the newer hardware. Nice combination. One time I did use Debian to format the HD and then trick suse to use swap as RAM. This was on a 32M RAM 486DX we wanted to use as a firewall. Dee On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 10:07, Abraham Bloom wrote:
Derek,
I was not overly impressed with Corel Linux. I had problems loading it on older hardware which I noted to them and never saw a resolution. Unlike linuxes like Slackware, many do not support older hardware. Older hardware is ideal for firewall's or small mail servers. I have some documents in WP format, guess I need to load an older machine with slakware to change the format of these documents to something I can actually use again.
Abraham
Derek Fountain wrote:
On Saturday 05 July 2003 09:47, illustre wrote:
any reason corel offers a demo word perfect for windows but not for linux
'cos they're a bunch of morons. They dangled a Linux version of WP a couple of years ago, took loads of people's money (including mine) then refused to listen when everyone screamed "it doesn't work!". When the screaming got too loud they dropped the product completely, leaving everyone who'd bought it high and dry.
I used to have a lot of sympathy for Corel, but not any more. The sooner they go bust the better. I switched my Windows word processing platform from Wordperfect back to Microsoft Word, I was that disgusted.
/me steps off of soapbox :o)
-- Abraham Bloom, CISSP | The New Testament offers the basis for modern abrahambloom@comcast.net | computer coding theory, in the form of an X/motif/c/shell/perl | affirmation of the binary number system. Sys V/BSD/Linux/Sco | | But let your communication be Yea, yea; nay, | nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh | of evil. -- Matthew 5:37
Abraham Bloom wrote:
Derek,
I was not overly impressed with Corel Linux. I had problems loading it on older hardware which I noted to them and never saw a resolution. Unlike linuxes like Slackware, many do not support older hardware. Older hardware is ideal for firewall's or small mail servers. I have some documents in WP format, guess I need to load an older machine with slakware to change the format of these documents to something I can actually use again.
Abraham
Did you try Abiword? It claims to read WordPerfect 6/7/8/9 files. I pulled some old engineering specs from an Amiga Word Perfect archive, and it did fine. Stanley Long Anchorage, Alaska
Derek Fountain wrote:
On Saturday 05 July 2003 09:47, illustre wrote:
any reason corel offers a demo word perfect for windows but not for linux
'cos they're a bunch of morons. They dangled a Linux version of WP a couple of years ago, took loads of people's money (including mine) then refused to listen when everyone screamed "it doesn't work!". When the screaming got too loud they dropped the product completely, leaving everyone who'd bought it high and dry.
I used to have a lot of sympathy for Corel, but not any more. The sooner they go bust the better. I switched my Windows word processing platform from Wordperfect back to Microsoft Word, I was that disgusted.
/me steps off of soapbox :o)
On Saturday 05 July 2003 07:42 pm, Stanley Long wrote:
Abraham Bloom wrote:
Derek,
I was not overly impressed with Corel Linux. I had problems loading it on older hardware which I noted to them and never saw a resolution. Unlike linuxes like Slackware, many do not support older hardware. Older hardware is ideal for firewall's or small mail servers. I have some documents in WP format, guess I need to load an older machine with slakware to change the format of these documents to something I can actually use again.
Abraham
Did you try Abiword? It claims to read WordPerfect 6/7/8/9 files. I pulled some old engineering specs from an Amiga Word Perfect archive, and it did fine.
Stanley Long Anchorage, Alaska =================
Good point Stanley! I do believe that KWord will also read WordPerfect files. Wow, haven't tried any of my Amiga WP files, what was that, 4.12 the last version? ;o) Pat -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Saturday 05 July 2003 21:30, BandiPat wrote: Hay guys; The WP filters in both AbiWord and OOor.org, dont know about Kword yet were prepared by Will Lachance in conjunction with libwp development. More info here...http://sourceforge.net/projects/libwpd/ AbiWord has integrated these in the last release, OOo.org is working on it. Standalone processer is also available from the above url. enjoy /ch
On Saturday 05 July 2003 09:47, illustre wrote:
any reason corel offers a demo word perfect for windows but not for linux
'cos they're a bunch of morons. They dangled a Linux version of WP a couple of years ago, took loads of people's money (including mine) then refused to listen when everyone screamed "it doesn't work!". When the screaming got too loud they dropped the product completely, leaving everyone who'd bought it high and dry.
I used to have a lot of sympathy for Corel, but not any more. The sooner they go bust the better. I switched my Windows word processing platform from Wordperfect back to Microsoft Word, I was that disgusted.
/me steps off of soapbox :o)
That's what happen when the Antitrust law is not applied and when a monopolistic company decides to change their O.S. without giving the characteristics of the new O.S. to the other companies that use this O.S. as platform for their application. WordPerfect was the leading word-processor developer but was surprised when M$ went from MS-Dos to Windows-3.1 without warning the creators of softwares. WordPerfect did not have enough time to develop the Windows version of his Word-processor and the first version was a catastrophe and that's why almost everybody dropped WordPerfect for Word and the W.. people are now working with an obsolete Word-processor. I hope OpenOffice will change the process. The same happened with Quatro, Foxbase, etc ... Corel which bought WordPerfect made a good choice of trying Linux as platform for his application but it was to early because there was not enough people using Linux as DeskTop. The other error was to use Wine. Sun (and Netscape) had a better idea of giving his Word-processor application to the OpenSource community. Personaly I typed many documents on WordPerfect when I was still addicted to M$$ (the last Windown version worked very well). I stopped using Word-processors when I had to use the junk called Word at work. I use now text editors like Emacs or Vim, it is enough for 90% of the work. Happy to learn though that OpenOffice will allow us to read WP files. -- Alain Barthélemy cassandre@bartydeux.be http://www.bartydeux.be Linux User #315631
Alain Barthélemy wrote:
On Saturday 05 July 2003 09:47, illustre wrote:
any reason corel offers a demo word perfect for windows but not for linux
'cos they're a bunch of morons. They dangled a Linux version of WP a couple of years ago, took loads of people's money (including mine) then refused to listen when everyone screamed "it doesn't work!". When the screaming got too loud they dropped the product completely, leaving everyone who'd bought it high and dry.
I used to have a lot of sympathy for Corel, but not any more. The sooner they go bust the better. I switched my Windows word processing platform from Wordperfect back to Microsoft Word, I was that disgusted.
/me steps off of soapbox :o)
That's what happen when the Antitrust law is not applied and when a monopolistic company decides to change their O.S. without giving the characteristics of the new O.S. to the other companies that use this O.S. as platform for their application. WordPerfect was the leading word-processor developer but was surprised when M$ went from MS-Dos to Windows-3.1 without warning the creators of softwares. WordPerfect did not have enough time to develop the Windows version of his Word-processor and the first version was a catastrophe and that's why almost everybody dropped WordPerfect ...
I understand that LOTS of attorneys and legal staff still prefer WordPerfect.
... for Word and the W.. people are now working with an obsolete Word-processor. I hope OpenOffice will change the process. The same happened with Quatro, Foxbase, etc ...
Corel which bought WordPerfect made a good choice of trying Linux as platform for his application but it was to early because there was not enough people using Linux as DeskTop. The other error was to use Wine. Sun (and Netscape) had a better idea of giving his Word-processor application to the OpenSource community.
Personaly I typed many documents on WordPerfect when I was still addicted to M$$ (the last Windown version worked very well). I stopped using Word-processors when I had to use the junk called Word at work. I use now text editors like Emacs or Vim, it is enough for 90% of the work.
At the risk of causing a fork in a good tight thread, has anyone done a SuSE RPM of Cooledit? Smaller than Emacs, more like WordStar than Vim :-) http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_3382.html http://cooledit.sourceforge.net/ http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/cooledit.html Up till SuSE 7.0 I used it for most of my plane text correspondence, faxes, and all text files for inserting into CAD drawings. I am not much of a programmer, but it sure made Python easy.
Happy to learn though that OpenOffice will allow us to read WP files.
I understand that LOTS of attorneys and legal staff still prefer WordPerfect.
That's probably because WordPerfect used to have a Legal Edition with a lot of extras that those people wanted. They also had a Medical Edition for doctors and hospital staff. MS has Word.. That's it.. Just Word.. Personally, I still have WP9 on my (rarely used) Windows partition and would use WP in linux if it was a true native port instead of the winelib kludge.. As it is, 99% of the word processing I do is in OpenOffice. -- trey
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 20:07, Abraham Bloom wrote:
Derek,
I was not overly impressed with Corel Linux. I had problems loading it on older hardware which I noted to them and never saw a resolution. Unlike linuxes like Slackware, many do not support older hardware. Older hardware is ideal for firewall's or small mail servers. I have some documents in WP format, guess I need to load an older machine with slakware to change the format of these documents to something I can actually use again.
Abraham
This is a sad story - they started out really nicely. I bought Corel Linux 1.0 when it just came out, really so that I can have a printed linux manual. If you ever saw the Corel manual, you'll know the true meaning of disappointed. What the hell, it was still cheaper than any book off the shelve would have been. I tried installing it but X wouldn't go on my (then) SiS 6326 card. It worked, but all fonts were highlighted in the font colour - so you saw only thick lines. I e-mailed their support, and the replied. Over about a month of mailing back and forth, we sorted out the problem and I was able to install. I was very impressed with their support, and the OS wasn't bad either. Unfortunately much has changed... Hans
On Friday 04 July 2003 09:47 pm, illustre wrote:
any reason corel offers a demo word perfect for windows but not for linux =================
Corel is out of the Linux business now. Since M$ "loaned" them a bit of money a few years ago, the dropped all Linux products. Sold their Corel Linux to a company in Canada, which I believe are still developing it. You might find a copy of the old downloadable version 8 from somebody or you could search for the book, "WordPerfect for Linux Bible", which includes a newer version 8 CD. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Friday 04 July 2003 22:15, BandiPat wrote:
On Friday 04 July 2003 09:47 pm, illustre wrote:
any reason corel offers a demo word perfect for windows but not for linux
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Corel is out of the Linux business now. Since M$ "loaned" them a bit of money a few years ago, the dropped all Linux products. Sold their Corel Linux to a company in Canada, which I believe are still developing it.
The company is Xandros and they released a new version no too long ago. Corel is now in the process of being sold.
The company is Xandros and they released a new version [not] too long ago.
A new version of Corel Linux maybe (certainly a new combination of Debian GNU/Linux, etc.); a new version of WordPerfect not. The page http://www.xandros.net/corel_linux_xandros_desktop.html appears to be their polite way of telling the users of WordPerfect-for-Linux to get lost. Not that I'm interested. But if only there were a Unicode-capable XyWrite for Linux. . . .
Peter Evans wrote:
The company is Xandros and they released a new version [not] too long ago.
A new version of Corel Linux maybe (certainly a new combination of Debian GNU/Linux, etc.); a new version of WordPerfect not. The page http://www.xandros.net/corel_linux_xandros_desktop.html appears to be their polite way of telling the users of WordPerfect-for-Linux to get lost.
Not that I'm interested. But if only there were a Unicode-capable XyWrite for Linux. . . .
Someone on this list suggested that installing "shlib5" from SuSE's CD would make a old version work. I tried it and it did work. My only problem may have come from cups and the lack of lprng becuase the printer failed. However, it may have been due to something else like a lack of a file. -- 73 de Donn Washburn __ " http://www.hal-pc.org/~n5xwb " Ham Callsign N5XWB / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __ 307 Savoy St. / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ / Sugar Land, TX 77478 /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\ LL# 1.281.242.3256 a MSDOS Virus "Free Zone" OS Email: n5xwb@hal-pc.org Info: http://www.knoppix.net
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 09:47:55PM -0400, illustre wrote:
any reason corel offers a demo word perfect for windows but not for linux
Because they want you to buy it before you get a chance to see what an absolute utter load of crap it is? Michael -- Michael Nelson San Francisco, CA
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