[opensuse] pre-install considerations for xen
There's a couple reasons for running xen, but the major one for me is to be able to run XP without having to reboot into it. From reading some docs though, it seems that I'd need a different CPU from what I have (an Intel Pentium M processor, basically a Pentium 6 with mobility technology). So does this suck? Or is it okay? Secondly (if I get past the first hurdle, above), as is typical, XP was installed when I bought the machine and I got no install CD. Do I need an install CD/DVD for XP to make it a domU? The docs say that ACPI doesn't yet work on xen (meaning my battery's going to drain faster), but that this should be fixed in future. Has this future come yet? (Yeah, docs can go out-of-date.) I'm due for an upgrade, would like to upgrade into xen, but I'm pessimistic it'll work. Does anyone have any firsthand experience with any of this or otherwise have authoritative info? Much appreciated. -- The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. - Bertrand Russell, philosopher, mathematician, author, Nobel laureate (1872-1970) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
ken wrote:
There's a couple reasons for running xen, but the major one for me is to be able to run XP without having to reboot into it. From reading some docs though, it seems that I'd need a different CPU from what I have (an Intel Pentium M processor, basically a Pentium 6 with mobility technology). So does this suck? Or is it okay?
Secondly (if I get past the first hurdle, above), as is typical, XP was installed when I bought the machine and I got no install CD. Do I need an install CD/DVD for XP to make it a domU?
The docs say that ACPI doesn't yet work on xen (meaning my battery's going to drain faster), but that this should be fixed in future. Has this future come yet? (Yeah, docs can go out-of-date.)
I'm due for an upgrade, would like to upgrade into xen, but I'm pessimistic it'll work. Does anyone have any firsthand experience with any of this or otherwise have authoritative info?
Much appreciated.
Doesn't answer your questions, but this may be of interest when you are considering using Xen - a quote from the description of Xen in the Yast2 Software Management: "A port of Windows XP was developed for an earlier version of Xen, but is not available for release due to license restrictions." Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
ken wrote:
There's a couple reasons for running xen, but the major one for me is to be able to run XP without having to reboot into it. From reading some docs though, it seems that I'd need a different CPU from what I have (an Intel Pentium M processor, basically a Pentium 6 with mobility technology). So does this suck? Or is it okay?
No, this processor doesn't have the virtualization support, see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Virtualization_Technology for more information.
Secondly (if I get past the first hurdle, above), as is typical, XP was installed when I bought the machine and I got no install CD. Do I need an install CD/DVD for XP to make it a domU?
The easiest way is to install it using CD/DVD. For moving an existing installation you need a p2v (physical to virtual) tool. AFAIK there are only commercial tools, but some of them have a free trial version.
The docs say that ACPI doesn't yet work on xen (meaning my battery's going to drain faster), but that this should be fixed in future. Has this future come yet? (Yeah, docs can go out-of-date.)
I'm due for an upgrade, would like to upgrade into xen, but I'm pessimistic it'll work. Does anyone have any firsthand experience with any of this or otherwise have authoritative info?
Much appreciated.
Doesn't answer your questions, but this may be of interest when you are considering using Xen - a quote from the description of Xen in the Yast2 Software Management:
"A port of Windows XP was developed for an earlier version of Xen, but is not available for release due to license restrictions."
This is about paravirtualized system, in a fully virtualizated guest you don't need any modification to the guest OS (so in theory you can run any OS in a Xen guest) but you need virtualization support in the CPU. Ladislav -- Best Regards Ladislav Slezák Yast Developer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: lslezak@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 960 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ladislav Slezak wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
ken wrote:
There's a couple reasons for running xen, but the major one for me is to be able to run XP without having to reboot into it. From reading some docs though, it seems that I'd need a different CPU from what I have (an Intel Pentium M processor, basically a Pentium 6 with mobility technology). So does this suck? Or is it okay?
No, this processor doesn't have the virtualization support, see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Virtualization_Technology for more information.
Secondly (if I get past the first hurdle, above), as is typical, XP was installed when I bought the machine and I got no install CD. Do I need an install CD/DVD for XP to make it a domU?
The easiest way is to install it using CD/DVD. For moving an existing installation you need a p2v (physical to virtual) tool. AFAIK there are only commercial tools, but some of them have a free trial version.
The docs say that ACPI doesn't yet work on xen (meaning my battery's going to drain faster), but that this should be fixed in future. Has this future come yet? (Yeah, docs can go out-of-date.)
I'm due for an upgrade, would like to upgrade into xen, but I'm pessimistic it'll work. Does anyone have any firsthand experience with any of this or otherwise have authoritative info?
Much appreciated. Doesn't answer your questions, but this may be of interest when you are considering using Xen - a quote from the description of Xen in the Yast2 Software Management:
"A port of Windows XP was developed for an earlier version of Xen, but is not available for release due to license restrictions."
This is about paravirtualized system, in a fully virtualizated guest you don't need any modification to the guest OS (so in theory you can run any OS in a Xen guest) but you need virtualization support in the CPU.
Ladislav
Where can I read more about what Zen requires. I'm dual-booting 10.2 and XP on my laptop at present and I would like to install XP into a virtual machine within 10.2. I have a P4 duo-core processor. Where can I get more info to see if Zen will work or whether I will have to try a closed source vmware-Workstation. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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