Powersave monitor in GNOME

Per Kustemo

15 Jan 2006 15 Jan '06

20:43

Hi. When I use the KDE there is a powersave for my laptop monitor (just the monitor) so it goes totally black but I'm not able to find the same option in GNOME (the monitor goes black but not totally as in KDE). Is there some setting I have missed or is there som package I have to install? Regards /Per

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Carlos E. R.

16 Jan 16 Jan

19:32

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-01-15 at 21:43 +0100, Per Kustemo wrote:

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Hi. When I use the KDE there is a powersave for my laptop monitor (just the monitor) so it goes totally black but I'm not able to find the same option in GNOME (the monitor goes black but not totally as in KDE). Is there some setting I have missed or is there som package I have to install?

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Per Kustemo

17 Jan 17 Jan

09:24

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Hi Sorry to say that I dont have that option. There is no "Advanced" in the screensaver window so I cant see the (Display Power Management) Have found that under the Yast--System--Power Management, but there is not an option so that my monitor on my laptop will shut down completly, just as if you have a "blank" screensaver if you know what I mean. Regards /Per On 1/16/06, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Sunday 2006-01-15 at 21:43 +0100, Per Kustemo wrote:

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Hi. When I use the KDE there is a powersave for my laptop monitor (just the monitor) so it goes totally black but I'm not able to find the same option in GNOME (the monitor goes black but not totally as in KDE). Is there some setting I have missed or is there som package I have to install?

Desktop Preferences -> Gnome Control Center -> Screensaver --> Advanced (Display Power Management)

- -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

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Ken Schneider

12:39

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On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 10:24 +0100, Per Kustemo wrote:

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Hi Sorry to say that I dont have that option. There is no "Advanced" in the screensaver window so I cant see the (Display Power Management) Have found that under the Yast--System--Power Management, but there is not an option so that my monitor on my laptop will shut down completly, just as if you have a "blank" screensaver if you know what I mean. Regards /Per

It is under the Peripherals-->Display -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

Peter Onion

21:03

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On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 07:39 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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It is under the Peripherals-->Display

Which application ? I can't find a "Peripherals -> Display" menu anywhere on 10.0. Peter

Per Kustemo

21:18

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On 1/17/06, Peter Onion wrote:

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On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 07:39 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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It is under the Peripherals-->Display

Which application ? I can't find a "Peripherals -> Display" menu anywhere on 10.0.

Peter

Count me in there also, have been looking for an hour now :)....

Ken Schneider

21:20

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On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 21:03 +0000, Peter Onion wrote:

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On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 07:39 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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It is under the Peripherals-->Display

Which application ? I can't find a "Peripherals -> Display" menu anywhere on 10.0.

KDE control center. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

Per Kustemo

18 Jan 18 Jan

09:18

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But this problem was cause I'm not running KDE, i'm trying to get this to work in GNOME. Here it comes again. ---------------------------------------------------- Hi. When I use the KDE there is a powersave for my laptop monitor (just the monitor) so it goes totally black but I'm not able to find the same option in GNOME (the monitor goes black but not totally as in KDE). Is there some setting I have missed or is there som package I have to install? Regards /Per ---------------------------------------------------------- On 1/17/06, Ken Schneider wrote:

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On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 21:03 +0000, Peter Onion wrote:

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On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 07:39 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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It is under the Peripherals-->Display

Which application ? I can't find a "Peripherals -> Display" menu anywhere on 10.0.

KDE control center.

-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

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Ken Schneider

14:23

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But this problem was cause I'm not running KDE, i'm trying to get this to work in GNOME. Here it comes again. ---------------------------------------------------- Hi. When I use the KDE there is a powersave for my laptop monitor (just the monitor) so it goes totally black but I'm not able to find the same option in GNOME (the monitor goes black but not totally as in KDE). Is there some setting I have missed or is there som package I have to install? Regards /Per Since the fine folks that are creating Gnome consider "less control" to be "less confusing" to the user it probably does not exist. The best

On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 10:18 +0100, Per Kustemo wrote: thing to do would be to write the developers requesting control over the shutdown of the monitor and then -not- hold your breath waiting for a change. There was a long discussion involving Linus (the linux creator) about why there are so few options for the user to make changes to their gnome environment the the developers said that having to many control options available to the user would be "confusing" to the user. Go figure. Long live KDE. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

Carlos E. R.

19 Jan 19 Jan

00:06

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2006-01-18 at 09:23 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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Since the fine folks that are creating Gnome consider "less control" to be "less confusing" to the user it probably does not exist.

It does exist. I already said how.

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Long live KDE.

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aram v nathan

05:05

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On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 09:23 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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But this problem was cause I'm not running KDE, i'm trying to get this to work in GNOME. Here it comes again. ---------------------------------------------------- Hi. When I use the KDE there is a powersave for my laptop monitor (just the monitor) so it goes totally black but I'm not able to find the same option in GNOME (the monitor goes black but not totally as in KDE). Is there some setting I have missed or is there som package I have to install? Regards /Per Since the fine folks that are creating Gnome consider "less control" to be "less confusing" to the user it probably does not exist. The best

On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 10:18 +0100, Per Kustemo wrote: thing to do would be to write the developers requesting control over the shutdown of the monitor and then -not- hold your breath waiting for a change. There was a long discussion involving Linus (the linux creator) about why there are so few options for the user to make changes to their gnome environment the the developers said that having to many control options available to the user would be "confusing" to the user. Go figure.

Bill Gates also thought likewise perhaps thats why his OS has been a succcess in no small measure.

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Long live KDE.

-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

Ken Schneider

12:39

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On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 10:35 +0530, aram v nathan wrote:

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On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 09:23 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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But this problem was cause I'm not running KDE, i'm trying to get this to work in GNOME. Here it comes again. ---------------------------------------------------- Hi. When I use the KDE there is a powersave for my laptop monitor (just the monitor) so it goes totally black but I'm not able to find the same option in GNOME (the monitor goes black but not totally as in KDE). Is there some setting I have missed or is there som package I have to install? Regards /Per Since the fine folks that are creating Gnome consider "less control" to be "less confusing" to the user it probably does not exist. The best

On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 10:18 +0100, Per Kustemo wrote: thing to do would be to write the developers requesting control over the shutdown of the monitor and then -not- hold your breath waiting for a change. There was a long discussion involving Linus (the linux creator) about why there are so few options for the user to make changes to their gnome environment the the developers said that having to many control options available to the user would be "confusing" to the user. Go figure.

Bill Gates also thought likewise perhaps thats why his OS has been a succcess in no small measure.

Dumb down the product, dumb down the user. Linux is all about the user having -more- control not less. Ask a college graduate today to do something at a command prompt and most won't even know what you are talking about. Does that make the product better, I think not. I am not saying Gnome is not a good desktop, it could be much better if the user had more control over it's settings. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

Carlos E. R.

13:40

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2006-01-19 at 07:39 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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Dumb down the product, dumb down the user. Linux is all about the user having -more- control not less. Ask a college graduate today to do something at a command prompt and most won't even know what you are talking about. Does that make the product better, I think not. I am not saying Gnome is not a good desktop, it could be much better if the user had more control over it's settings.

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Joseph Loo

20 Jan 20 Jan

01:17

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I think I found out what the person was talking about gnome in setting the power saving mode. I have not tested it yet but will try in the future. 1. Click on Applications=>System=>Configuration=>Gnome Configuration Editor 2. A new menu will appear. Open the apps by clicking on Apps. This will bring up a whole list of stuff. Scroll down to gnome-screensaver 3. Click on gnaome-screensaver. A bunch of parameters will now appear on the right hand menu. 4. My guess you will want to do the following a. Click on the value dpms_enable and select the check mark b. Double click dpms_off value and type in 60 your time. I put in 60 (desktop) c. Double click dpms_standby value and type your time in. I put in 45. d. Double click dpms_suspend value and type in your time. I put in 30. 5. Close the window. This might work. So far I have not tested it. It may require a reboot, logoff, or a restart of the X11 server. I do not have an idea at this time. aram v nathan wrote:

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On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 09:23 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 10:18 +0100, Per Kustemo wrote:

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But this problem was cause I'm not running KDE, i'm trying to get this to work in GNOME. Here it comes again. ---------------------------------------------------- Hi. When I use the KDE there is a powersave for my laptop monitor (just the monitor) so it goes totally black but I'm not able to find the same option in GNOME (the monitor goes black but not totally as in KDE). Is there some setting I have missed or is there som package I have to install? Regards /Per

Since the fine folks that are creating Gnome consider "less control" to be "less confusing" to the user it probably does not exist. The best thing to do would be to write the developers requesting control over the shutdown of the monitor and then -not- hold your breath waiting for a change. There was a long discussion involving Linus (the linux creator) about why there are so few options for the user to make changes to their gnome environment the the developers said that having to many control options available to the user would be "confusing" to the user. Go figure.

Bill Gates also thought likewise perhaps thats why his OS has been a succcess in no small measure.

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Long live KDE.

-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

-- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org

Per Kustemo

11:34

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Hi I already had some values there so this is probably not to make just the monitor go into the powersave mode, think it is for the whole computer......will test it :).... /P On 1/20/06, Joseph Loo wrote:

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I think I found out what the person was talking about gnome in setting the power saving mode. I have not tested it yet but will try in the future.

1. Click on Applications=>System=>Configuration=>Gnome Configuration Editor 2. A new menu will appear. Open the apps by clicking on Apps. This will bring up a whole list of stuff. Scroll down to gnome-screensaver 3. Click on gnaome-screensaver. A bunch of parameters will now appear on the right hand menu. 4. My guess you will want to do the following a. Click on the value dpms_enable and select the check mark b. Double click dpms_off value and type in 60 your time. I put in 60 (desktop) c. Double click dpms_standby value and type your time in. I put in 45. d. Double click dpms_suspend value and type in your time. I put in 30. 5. Close the window. This might work. So far I have not tested it. It may require a reboot, logoff, or a restart of the X11 server. I do not have an idea at this time.

aram v nathan wrote:

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On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 09:23 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 10:18 +0100, Per Kustemo wrote:

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But this problem was cause I'm not running KDE, i'm trying to get this to work in GNOME. Here it comes again. ---------------------------------------------------- Hi. When I use the KDE there is a powersave for my laptop monitor (just the monitor) so it goes totally black but I'm not able to find the same option in GNOME (the monitor goes black but not totally as in KDE). Is there some setting I have missed or is there som package I have to install? Regards /Per

Since the fine folks that are creating Gnome consider "less control" to be "less confusing" to the user it probably does not exist. The best thing to do would be to write the developers requesting control over the shutdown of the monitor and then -not- hold your breath waiting for a change. There was a long discussion involving Linus (the linux creator) about why there are so few options for the user to make changes to their gnome environment the the developers said that having to many control options available to the user would be "confusing" to the user. Go figure.

Bill Gates also thought likewise perhaps thats why his OS has been a succcess in no small measure.

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Long live KDE.

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Per Kustemo

12:35

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Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes ....it worked. Thanks alot :)... /P On 1/20/06, Per Kustemo wrote:

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Hi I already had some values there so this is probably not to make just the monitor go into the powersave mode, think it is for the whole computer......will test it :).... /P

On 1/20/06, Joseph Loo wrote:

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I think I found out what the person was talking about gnome in setting the power saving mode. I have not tested it yet but will try in the future.

1. Click on Applications=>System=>Configuration=>Gnome Configuration Editor 2. A new menu will appear. Open the apps by clicking on Apps. This will bring up a whole list of stuff. Scroll down to gnome-screensaver 3. Click on gnaome-screensaver. A bunch of parameters will now appear on the right hand menu. 4. My guess you will want to do the following a. Click on the value dpms_enable and select the check mark b. Double click dpms_off value and type in 60 your time. I put in 60 (desktop) c. Double click dpms_standby value and type your time in. I put in 45. d. Double click dpms_suspend value and type in your time. I put in 30. 5. Close the window. This might work. So far I have not tested it. It may require a reboot, logoff, or a restart of the X11 server. I do not have an idea at this time.

aram v nathan wrote:

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On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 09:23 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 10:18 +0100, Per Kustemo wrote:

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But this problem was cause I'm not running KDE, i'm trying to get this to work in GNOME. Here it comes again. ---------------------------------------------------- Hi. When I use the KDE there is a powersave for my laptop monitor (just the monitor) so it goes totally black but I'm not able to find the same option in GNOME (the monitor goes black but not totally as in KDE). Is there some setting I have missed or is there som package I have to install? Regards /Per

Since the fine folks that are creating Gnome consider "less control" to be "less confusing" to the user it probably does not exist. The best thing to do would be to write the developers requesting control over the shutdown of the monitor and then -not- hold your breath waiting for a change. There was a long discussion involving Linus (the linux creator) about why there are so few options for the user to make changes to their gnome environment the the developers said that having to many control options available to the user would be "confusing" to the user. Go figure.

Bill Gates also thought likewise perhaps thats why his OS has been a succcess in no small measure.

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Joseph Loo

21 Jan 21 Jan

02:23

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The default values in there are like 4 hours, , etc. Yu have to make sure that dpms enable is checked. Mine was not and so it did not do it. In any case, I change my values down and it is now powering off the screen. It has a little inconvience of just powering down at every 510 minutes right now. I am trying to check out why it does this. Per Kustemo wrote:

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Hi I already had some values there so this is probably not to make just the monitor go into the powersave mode, think it is for the whole computer......will test it :).... /P

On 1/20/06, Joseph Loo wrote:

...
I think I found out what the person was talking about gnome in setting the power saving mode. I have not tested it yet but will try in the future.

1. Click on Applications=>System=>Configuration=>Gnome Configuration Editor 2. A new menu will appear. Open the apps by clicking on Apps. This will bring up a whole list of stuff. Scroll down to gnome-screensaver 3. Click on gnaome-screensaver. A bunch of parameters will now appear on the right hand menu. 4. My guess you will want to do the following a. Click on the value dpms_enable and select the check mark b. Double click dpms_off value and type in 60 your time. I put in 60 (desktop) c. Double click dpms_standby value and type your time in. I put in 45. d. Double click dpms_suspend value and type in your time. I put in 30. 5. Close the window. This might work. So far I have not tested it. It may require a reboot, logoff, or a restart of the X11 server. I do not have an idea at this time.

aram v nathan wrote:

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On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 09:23 -0500, Ken Schneider wrote:

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On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 10:18 +0100, Per Kustemo wrote:

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But this problem was cause I'm not running KDE, i'm trying to get this to work in GNOME. Here it comes again. ---------------------------------------------------- Hi. When I use the KDE there is a powersave for my laptop monitor (just the monitor) so it goes totally black but I'm not able to find the same option in GNOME (the monitor goes black but not totally as in KDE). Is there some setting I have missed or is there som package I have to install? Regards /Per

Since the fine folks that are creating Gnome consider "less control" to be "less confusing" to the user it probably does not exist. The best thing to do would be to write the developers requesting control over the shutdown of the monitor and then -not- hold your breath waiting for a change. There was a long discussion involving Linus (the linux creator) about why there are so few options for the user to make changes to their gnome environment the the developers said that having to many control options available to the user would be "confusing" to the user. Go figure.

Bill Gates also thought likewise perhaps thats why his OS has been a succcess in no small measure.

...
Long live KDE.

-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

-- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org

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