[opensuse] Question for iPod users out there!
Hello there, I'm planning to buy an ipod and after googling for "linux+ ipod" I think I'm going to use GTKpod. I have a question though... Assuming my iPod is already formatted with FAT32, isn't it just a matter of mounting the ipod and copy my mp3's to some specific folder on the "mounted drive"? Why do I need an app? I initially thought that the ipod (Nano 2G in this case) wasn't perceived as an "USB mass storage device" but I'm confused now :( Your comments will be appreciated. Thanks, Jorge -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 21:25, Jorge Fábregas wrote: Assuming my iPod is already formatted with FAT32, isn't it just a matter of mounting the ipod and copy my mp3's to some specific folder on the "mounted drive"? Why do I need an app? I initially thought that the ipod (Nano 2G in this case) wasn't perceived as an "USB mass storage device" but I'm confused now :( Thanks, Jorge ============================================================ One of the music consumers in this household just got a new iPod Shuffle, to replace an aging Trio MP3 player. The iPod documentation states that iTunes must be used to copy music to the device, that it is possible to copy files for data storage but copied music files will not be playable. Testing indicated that this was the case; man I hate it when I hafta read the manual to get things working! From the description of ipod-sharp: is a library that allows manipulation of the iTunesDB used in Apple iPod® devices. Currently it supports adding and removing songs and manipulating existing play lists. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wade Jones wrote:
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 21:25, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
Assuming my iPod is already formatted with FAT32, isn't it just a matter of mounting the ipod and copy my mp3's to some specific folder on the "mounted drive"? Why do I need an app? I initially thought that the ipod (Nano 2G in this case) wasn't perceived as an "USB mass storage device" but I'm confused now :(
Thanks, Jorge
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One of the music consumers in this household just got a new iPod Shuffle, to replace an aging Trio MP3 player. The iPod documentation states that iTunes must be used to copy music to the device, that it is possible to copy files for data storage but copied music files will not be playable. Testing indicated that this was the case; man I hate it when I hafta read the manual to get things working!
I agree. Reading the manual goes against the geek code of ethics. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jorge Fábregas wrote:
Hello there,
I'm planning to buy an ipod and after googling for "linux+ ipod" I think I'm going to use GTKpod. I have a question though...
Assuming my iPod is already formatted with FAT32, isn't it just a matter of mounting the ipod and copy my mp3's to some specific folder on the "mounted drive"? Why do I need an app? I initially thought that the ipod (Nano 2G in this case) wasn't perceived as an "USB mass storage device" but I'm confused now :(
Your comments will be appreciated.
Thanks, Jorge
Unfortunately for the built in menu system to work, there is a quasi propritary menu system that has to be kept up... That's what GTKpod does. and it does it well on mine -- One day at a time, one second if that's what it takes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jorge Fábregas wrote:
Hello there,
I'm planning to buy an ipod and after googling for "linux+ ipod" I think I'm going to use GTKpod. I have a question though...
Assuming my iPod is already formatted with FAT32, isn't it just a matter of mounting the ipod and copy my mp3's to some specific folder on the "mounted drive"? Why do I need an app? I initially thought that the ipod (Nano 2G in this case) wasn't perceived as an "USB mass storage device" but I'm confused now :(
iPod needs your mp3s stored in a special way (this was created as way to put a little obstacle to spreading illegal music). You'll learn more when you'll take a look at the directory structure after you mount it. That's why you need a special app instead of just copying the files. I suppose you're a gnome user, so you can use GTKpod, but if you don't mind installing kde packages, try also amaroK. cheers, jano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jan Kupec wrote:
Jorge Fábregas wrote:
Hello there,
I'm planning to buy an ipod and after googling for "linux+ ipod" I think I'm going to use GTKpod. I have a question though...
Assuming my iPod is already formatted with FAT32, isn't it just a matter of mounting the ipod and copy my mp3's to some specific folder on the "mounted drive"? Why do I need an app? I initially thought that the ipod (Nano 2G in this case) wasn't perceived as an "USB mass storage device" but I'm confused now :( Hi Jorge,
I have just received a link about running iPods on Linux and I hope that it helps you. Using your iPod on Linux http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LinuxAppFinderWebLinks/~3/70249859/ i have not used the link and the article seems to deal with RedHat but YMMV. Regards -- ======================================================================== Using SuSE 9.2 Professional with KDE and Mozilla Mail 1.7.13 Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org ======================================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi to the OP, I recently saw this but have not used it or read the article, yet so YMMV. HTH Hylton -- ======================================================================== Using SuSE 9.2 Professional with KDE and Mozilla Mail 1.7.13 Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org ======================================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jan Kupec wrote:
Jorge Fábregas wrote:
Hello there,
I'm planning to buy an ipod and after googling for "linux+ ipod" I think I'm going to use GTKpod. I have a question though...
Assuming my iPod is already formatted with FAT32, isn't it just a matter of mounting the ipod and copy my mp3's to some specific folder on the "mounted drive"? Why do I need an app? I initially thought that the ipod (Nano 2G in this case) wasn't perceived as an "USB mass storage device" but I'm confused now :(
iPod needs your mp3s stored in a special way (this was created as way to put a little obstacle to spreading illegal music). You'll learn more when you'll take a look at the directory structure after you mount it. That's why you need a special app instead of just copying the files. I suppose you're a gnome user, so you can use GTKpod, but if you don't mind installing kde packages, try also amaroK.
Try IPod Support on Suse gtkpod - manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LinuxAppFinderWebLinks/~3/71247272/ HTH -- ======================================================================== Using SuSE 9.2 Professional with KDE and Mozilla Mail 1.7.13 Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org ======================================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 23:25 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
Hello there,
I'm planning to buy an ipod and after googling for "linux+ ipod" I think I'm going to use GTKpod. I have a question though...
Assuming my iPod is already formatted with FAT32, isn't it just a matter of mounting the ipod and copy my mp3's to some specific folder on the "mounted drive"? Why do I need an app? I initially thought that the ipod (Nano 2G in this case) wasn't perceived as an "USB mass storage device" but I'm confused now :(
You can of course browse the file system on the ipod. However, music files are not stored with their original names. They are renamed to odd names. Track info is all taken from the ID3 tags (NOT the file names) and placed in a database. That is also what makes it a challenge to simply copy mp3 music files off the ipod. gtkpod makes this easy. Note also that konqueror has an ipod: service that makes reading from the ipod very easy. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems AB Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 1/4/07, Roger Oberholtzer
You can of course browse the file system on the ipod. However, music files are not stored with their original names. They are renamed to odd names. Track info is all taken from the ID3 tags (NOT the file names) and placed in a database. That is also what makes it a challenge to simply copy mp3 music files off the ipod. gtkpod makes this easy. Note also that konqueror has an ipod: service that makes reading from the ipod very easy.
It's also worthy to note that amarok and banshee also work with the itunes db. I've tried it with amarok prior to 1.4 with some luck. I also tried banshee. Of the 3, gtkpod seemed to be the easiest to use, IMHO. One item of note though; populating your ipod with gtkpod and then syncing with itunes on a windows pc wiped all the songs from my collection. I had to go back to gtkpod and resync with it. I did not investigate why this happened. -Scott -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Scott Gilmore wrote:
It's also worthy to note that amarok and banshee also work with the itunes db. I've tried it with amarok prior to 1.4 with some luck. I also tried banshee. Of the 3, gtkpod seemed to be the easiest to use, IMHO.
One item of note though; populating your ipod with gtkpod and then syncing with itunes on a windows pc wiped all the songs from my collection. I had to go back to gtkpod and resync with it. I did not investigate why this happened.
-Scott
My daughter claims that that is the way Itunes works. After populating your IPod from one computer with Itunes that is the only computer you are allowed to sync with. If you sync with any other install of Itunes, Itunes will wipe your Ipod clean. It's anti piracy. -- roger http://www.terra2tarmac.com where do you ride? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Roger Dedrick wrote:
After populating your IPod from one computer with Itunes that is the only computer you are allowed to sync with. If you sync with any other install of Itunes, Itunes will wipe your Ipod clean. It's anti piracy.
It is not anti-piracy, it is PITA (for us with more than one computer). -- Geir A. Myrestrand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 04 January 2007 09:50, Roger Dedrick wrote:
Scott Gilmore wrote:
It's also worthy to note that amarok and banshee also work with the itunes db. I've tried it with amarok prior to 1.4 with some luck. I also tried banshee. Of the 3, gtkpod seemed to be the easiest to use, IMHO.
One item of note though; populating your ipod with gtkpod and then syncing with itunes on a windows pc wiped all the songs from my collection. I had to go back to gtkpod and resync with it. I did not investigate why this happened.
-Scott
My daughter claims that that is the way Itunes works. After populating your IPod from one computer with Itunes that is the only computer you are allowed to sync with. If you sync with any other install of Itunes, Itunes will wipe your Ipod clean. It's anti piracy.
That's not really right. It's only even close for DRM content (of which I have none). But if you leave iTunes in the default automatic sync mode, this is the behavior you get. One day I hooked my iPod to my MacBook Pro instead of the iMac I use to manage ripped CDs and podcasts. I wanted to see if there might be a way to play its content through the laptop speakers. And poof! Everything was gone from the iPod. Of course, I could just sync it again from the iMac, but it took me by surprise. Many people recommend using manual iPod content management in iTunes. That prevents this nasty "I own you iPod and all its contents" mode that is the default for iTunes.
-- roger
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On Thursday 04 January 2007 08:06, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 04 January 2007 09:50, Roger Dedrick wrote:
Scott Gilmore wrote:
My daughter claims that that is the way Itunes works. After populating your IPod from one computer with Itunes that is the only computer you are allowed to sync with. If you sync with any other install of Itunes, Itunes will wipe your Ipod clean. It's anti piracy.
That's not really right. It's only even close for DRM content (of which I have none).
What is 'DRM content'
But if you leave iTunes in the default automatic sync mode, this is the behavior you get. One day I hooked my iPod to my MacBook Pro instead of the iMac I use to manage ripped CDs and podcasts. I wanted to see if there might be a way to play its content through the laptop speakers. And poof! Everything was gone from the iPod. Of course, I could just sync it again from the iMac, but it took me by surprise.
Many people recommend using manual iPod content management in iTunes. That prevents this nasty "I own you iPod and all its contents" mode that is the default for iTunes.
How do you manually manage iPod content? Thanks, Jerome
-- roger
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 04 January 2007 15:41, Susemail wrote:
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That's not really right. It's only even close for DRM content (of which I have none).
What is 'DRM content'
Content protected by Digital Rights Management software.
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Many people recommend using manual iPod content management in iTunes. That prevents this nasty "I own you iPod and all its contents" mode that is the default for iTunes.
How do you manually manage iPod content?
Select the iPod icon (in the "Devices" section) in the left-hand column of the iTunes window. The iPod's options include "Manually manage music and videos". Select this option. Now you will have to explictly copy each song / audio recording, podcast or video file to the iPod.
Thanks, Jerome
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On Wednesday 03 January 2007 11:25 pm, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
I'm planning to buy an ipod and after googling for "linux+ ipod" I think I'm going to use GTKpod. I have a question though... <SNIP>
Thank you guys for all your comments! Now I know why it is that I just can't copy/paste manually to the iPod directory structure. I'm clear now :) Thanks! Jorg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Bruce Ferrell -
Geir A. Myrestrand -
Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) -
James Knott -
Jan Kupec -
Jorge Fábregas -
Randall R Schulz -
Roger Dedrick -
Roger Oberholtzer -
Scott Gilmore -
Susemail -
Wade Jones