[SLE] IBM Deskstar 75GXP (DTLA-307020) IDE Hard-Drive
Hi, I looked into SuSE's hardware database to see if the above hard-drive is supported. Couldn't find any reference there. I've seem some references to IBM hard-drives in the mailing list archives, but none specifies the model. So, 1) Is it supported? 2) My motherboard (Asus K7V) maxs at UltraDMA/66. I assume that a UltraDMA/100 would work, is that right? (Yes, I know that with a controler I could take full advantage of it... but that's gonna be a 2nd stage.) Thanks in advance, Alvaro Novo SuSE 6.4 Kernel 2.2.16 KDE 2 - Beta 4 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
* Alvaro A. Novo (novo@uiuc.edu) [20000916 17:15]:
1) Is it supported?
If your BIOS recognizes the disk correctly, there should be no problem with Linux.
2) My motherboard (Asus K7V) maxs at UltraDMA/66. I assume that a UltraDMA/100 would work, is that right?
(Yes, I know that with a controler I could take full advantage of it... but that's gonna be a 2nd stage.)
Just forget UDMA100 as you won't get anything more from the drive. That a
drive supports ATA100 doesn't necessarily mean that it can utilize the
increased transfer speed. *No* current drive even reaches UDMA66 transfer
rates (and very few reach ATA33 BTW).
Currently UDMA100 is not much more then a nice marketing vehicle which you
can safely ignore until drives become available that *can* make use of the
higher speed (which IMHO is still rather far away in the future).
Philipp
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Philipp Thomas
Philipp Monday, September 18, 2000, 12:48:30 AM, you wrote: <...> *>> Just forget UDMA100 as you won't get anything more from the drive. <...> *>> Currently UDMA100 is not much more then a nice marketing vehicle which you *>> can safely ignore until drives become available that *can* make use of the *>> higher speed (which IMHO is still rather far away in the future). So what are you saying Philipp, that SuSE does *not* support ATA/100 at all and is never ever going to? I truly hope that is not the case. As for ignoring the 'marketing vehicle', well I personally think that not everyone has that luxury! Motherboards with ATA 100 controllers and ATA 100 HDD are becoming the norm. Soon they will be commonplace. Not everyone that wants to install a SuSE is going to be running it on old kit. Therefore, IMHO, it is not reasonable to 'ignore' ATA 100, whatever your personal opinion. The questions are going to become more frequent as the months go on. It would IMO be wise if they were answered rather than sidelined. Excuse my directness, but I am ATA 100 laden and prepping for a first time SuSE 7 install (reading the manual). I think solutions are needed, not being told to forget about it. -- Thanks SImon http://www.netbanger.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Excuse my directness, but I am ATA 100 laden and prepping for a first time SuSE 7 install (reading the manual). I think solutions are needed, not being told to forget about it.
I believe ATA 100 is supported in SuSE 7. I'm not sure if it's enabled out of the box or if you need to compile the kernel. At the very least, ATA 66 will be supported on both the controller and drive. As for the previous poster, you need to realize that won't be seeing an astounding jump in performance between ATA 66 and ATA 100 since nothing really pushes the limits of the current ATA 66. If your only experience with hard drives have been ATA 33, then you will notice a significant performance increase but not because you have ATA 100 parts. It's one of the reasons why some people with ATA 66 parts are not too terribly excited about ATA 100 since it will be a while before there's a serious need for faster technology and more inclined to "forget about it" for now. Since you already have ATA 100 parts, you're in a great position. You don't have to worry about needing to upgrade from ATA 66 in a couple of years. However, I heard that an ATA 133 spec was just around the corner. ;) Christopher Reimer -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Christopher, Monday, September 18, 2000, 2:12:37 AM, you wrote: *>> I believe ATA 100 is supported in SuSE 7. I'm not sure if it's enabled out *>> of the box or if you need to compile the kernel. At the very least, ATA 66 *>> will be supported on both the controller and drive. The fact is, no one has been able to say for sure that SuSE 7 does support it out of the box, which is rather disconcerting for the newbie Linux user. I would personally have hoped that such information would be readily available. Instead, after visiting newsgroups, searching all over the Net, I've still not found a definitive answer. *>> As for the previous poster, you need to realize that won't be seeing an *>> astounding jump in performance between ATA 66 and ATA 100 since nothing *>> really pushes the limits of the current ATA 66. If your only experience *>> with hard drives have been ATA 33, then you will notice a significant *>> performance increase but not because you have ATA 100 parts. It's one of *>> the reasons why some people with ATA 66 parts are not too terribly excited *>> about ATA 100 since it will be a while before there's a serious need for *>> faster technology and more inclined to "forget about it" for now. *>> Since you already have ATA 100 parts, you're in a great position. You don't *>> have to worry about needing to upgrade from ATA 66 in a couple of years. *>> However, I heard that an ATA 133 spec was just around the corner. ;) Yes, I here where you are coming from, and I totally understand. However, my point was really that ATA 100 is going to be around for long enough to warrant support. Therefore, solutions are better than avoidance. I am biased, yes, as I purchased some extra kit especially to build a dual boot SuSE 7 Linux and W2K system. Just so happens that ATA 66 disks are becoming quite scarce, and not very good value even if you can find them, and so I bought a couple off budget IBM 40GV 20 gig ATA 100's @ 68 quid each as they were better value for money, which, aside performance, is what most people will be considering. As I had not long got my hands on a boxed and unused TYAN Trinity 2MB UDMA 66 Mobo, I plumped for a Promise Ultra100 PCI controller to attach the disks to. Hence my continuing interest on the topic of ATA 100 support on this list :) Linux-ide.org lists the chipset for the Ultra100 Promise card as supported by Linux, but Promise support sent me an email the other day saying that it wasn't yet supported! All rather confusing really. Slashdot.org have an article announcing support for ATA 100 in Linux, but no details, and that was a 3 month old article. Some say it is supported, and some say it isn't and others, well they say forget it ;) If I need to 'recompile the kernel' to get ATA 100 support, I will have to go away and learn how to do it, but I don't know yet whether I really need to, and it looks very much like the only definite way I'm going to find out is if I attempt an install first :/ Perhaps I just need to get used to the ways of Linux! As for the ATA 133, I think I'll sit that one out ;) -- Thanks SImon http://www.netbanger.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Simon wrote:
Philipp
Monday, September 18, 2000, 12:48:30 AM, you wrote: <...> *>> Just forget UDMA100 as you won't get anything more from the drive. <...> *>> Currently UDMA100 is not much more then a nice marketing vehicle which you *>> can safely ignore until drives become available that *can* make use of the *>> higher speed (which IMHO is still rather far away in the future).
So what are you saying Philipp, that SuSE does *not* support ATA/100 at all and is never ever going to? I truly hope that is not the case.
I am sorry, the comment is misleading. Philipp did *not* state that SuSE does *not* support ATA/100 in his posting. Simon just deleted this part in his quoting. Philipp's point was that SuSE does support ATA/100 but the effort does not pay off at the moment. Too few ATA/100 drives really transfer data at such rate, if any. Kastus
As for ignoring the 'marketing vehicle', well I personally think that not everyone has that luxury! Motherboards with ATA 100 controllers and ATA 100 HDD are becoming the norm. Soon they will be commonplace. Not everyone that wants to install a SuSE is going to be running it on old kit. Therefore, IMHO, it is not reasonable to 'ignore' ATA 100, whatever your personal opinion. The questions are going to become more frequent as the months go on. It would IMO be wise if they were answered rather than sidelined.
Excuse my directness, but I am ATA 100 laden and prepping for a first time SuSE 7 install (reading the manual). I think solutions are needed, not being told to forget about it.
-- Thanks
SImon http://www.netbanger.com
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creimer@rahul.net
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kastus@tsoft.com
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novo@uiuc.edu
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simon@infowizard.co.uk