Peter, Thanks for the info - I now have Tux on screen every time I boot to good ol' Linux. Just curious - if I were trying to make a system look "friendlier" for a new Linux user - might there be a way to hide the Kernel and rc.d messages behind a large Tux (like Windows does with the Windows logo)? Thanks, Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================

-----Original Message----- From: Peter Hargroves [mailto:peter@hargroves.screaming.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 5:22 AM To: tbutler@uninetsolutions.com Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: RE: [SLE] Re: Changing the penguin bootlogo

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How do you even get the penguin to appear? It popped up when booting the setup CD ROM (6.4), but when the actual system started, it didn't appear.

Thanks, Tim

Hi Tim

Edit your lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf and comment out (if its there) VGA=normal to VGA=771 or 773 this depends on the size of the text you want to see and save the file.In your term window type Lilo to run it and re-start your system,you should then be able to see the penguin :)

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Subject: [SLE] Re: Changing the penguin bootlogo

On Sun, 21 May 2000, Andrew Marks wrote:

am> Does anybody know how to change the defualt penguin bootlogo (shown in the upper left corner of the screen during a VESA framebuffer bootup) to some other picture? I think it can be done by changing the linux/linux_logo.h file in the kernel includes, but I have yet to test this as I do not wish to reconfigure and recompile my kernel. am> If anybody knows if this method will work or knows how to change the logo without recompiling the kernel, please let me know. am>

Check the linux.com site there was a whole section on kernel tweaks and that was included.

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Phillipp, I kinda like the boot messages, but I think to a new user they might be "scary." Windows has the system, that the logo masks the Autoexec.bat and Config.sys outputs (I guess the rc.d's of the Windows world), but pressing escape will remove the logo (for debugging purposes). I certainly see your point on the amount of work though - it wouldn't be worth it. Still something to consider for future kernels. I mean what is friendlier looking than a giant happy penguin? 8-) If that text was hidden, and KDM, GDM, or XDM was used, and KDE or GNOME was installed, IMHO Linux would seem much friendlier to the Mac or Windows user. For myself, the benefit would be that I wouldn't keep forgetting to wait till KDM starts to log in, rather than logging in at the text-based log-in screen while X is loading (after several years of using that log in prompt, I forget that KDM is on it's way ;-). -Tim "The guy who drives himself nuts using 4 operating systems" ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================

-----Original Message----- From: Philipp Thomas [mailto:pthomas@suse.de] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 7:38 PM To: Timothy R. Butler Cc: SuSE Mailing List Subject: Re: [SLE] Re: Changing the penguin bootlogo

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ol' Linux. Just curious - if I were trying to make a system look "friendlier" for a new Linux user

Pray tell in what way does hiding the boot messages make a system friendlier? Normally one can just ignore them, but in case of problems, these sometimes quickly help you identify what's going wrong.

Only because MS set a precedent doesn't mean anybody has to follow it. And even when you do find a way to hide the messages - which would only be possible with some serious kernel code hacking, as the messages are output with printk and are only 'redirectable' after syslogd has been started, which happens quite some time later - the ouput of an eventual fsck and the success/failure messages of the init scripts would destroy the logo anyways (although all those messages could be redirected rather easily by changing the init scripts).

As you see, lots of work with little or no real benefit.

Philipp

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Don,

No, actually, it doesn't. If anything in autoexec.bat or config.sys puts messages on the screen, the logo screen disappears and you see the text.

Somewhat true. I have McAfee VirusScan, and my sound card also loads some drivers, behind the cloak of the Windows98 logo. Perhaps Windows watches for a certain error signal? Oh well, anyway it works nicely. Apple's "Welcome to Macintosh" works nicely too.

Which isn't bad: with a well-written script and programs, no news is good news.

Very true. Hey Linux Kernel team - do you monitor this list? ;-) Can't you just see it, have a nice logo compiled into the Kernel (i.e. in SuSE we could have SuSE Linux 6.4, and have Geeko and Tux pictured above the name). -Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" ===================== -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

On Sun, 04 Jun 2000, Greg Thomas wrote:

On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, Don Edwards wrote:

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On Sat, 03 Jun 2000, Timothy R. Butler wrote:

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Phillipp, I kinda like the boot messages, but I think to a new user they might be "scary." Windows has the system, that the logo masks the Autoexec.bat and Config.sys outputs

No, actually, it doesn't. If anything in autoexec.bat or config.sys puts messages on the screen, the logo screen disappears and you see the text.

Not on any of the 95/98 boxes I administer. You have to hit the Esc key to get rid of the boot logo or edit msdos.sys.

At one time I administered about 120 of the things. Now as a developer I routinely run two, and at home I still administer my wife's machine. I can state flat out that if you have anything in autoexec.bat and it does NOT begin with @echo off (or alternatively have every single command begin with @) then the logo DOES disappear for a while so that the text can be displayed, on every machine I have worked with. I'm pretty sure, but less certain, that messages from config.sys did the same. (Loading drivers in config.sys is less common than it used to be.) -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/