[opensuse] Novell client for Linux
Hello I am trying to run Novell Client for Linux on OpenSUSE 10.0. My client is from novell-client-1.1.0-4.rpm. But I cannot log in. I can log in on a Windows PC using Novell Client for Windows. So, I took all the information in the Advanced settings of the Windows login and put it in the Linux Advanced settings. But no joy. I get this: Novell Security Message The system could not log you into the network. Make sure that the name and connection information are correct, then type your password again. One perhaps obvious part is that the Windows Novell Client allows specification of 'from', in addition to the local user. Seems 'from' is the Windows workgroup. I see no equivalent 'from' parameter in the Linux client. Should it be entered a different way? -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 15 February 2008 21:03:53 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Hello
I am trying to run Novell Client for Linux on OpenSUSE 10.0. My client is from novell-client-1.1.0-4.rpm. But I cannot log in. I can log in on a Windows PC using Novell Client for Windows. So, I took all the information in the Advanced settings of the Windows login and put it in the Linux Advanced settings. But no joy. I get this:
10.0 is _old_. It might be too old to run that version of the Novell Client. You might have more success with an older version of the Novell Client for Linux. Do you know the IP address of: a) a server holding a copy of the [Root] replica? b) the server you're attempting to log into? You could try replacing the Tree name with the IP address of the [Root] replica holder and then browsing to your required context via the button in the client. Or try replacing your Server name with the IP address of the server. Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 10:32 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
On Friday 15 February 2008 21:03:53 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Hello
I am trying to run Novell Client for Linux on OpenSUSE 10.0. My client is from novell-client-1.1.0-4.rpm. But I cannot log in. I can log in on a Windows PC using Novell Client for Windows. So, I took all the information in the Advanced settings of the Windows login and put it in the Linux Advanced settings. But no joy. I get this:
10.0 is _old_. It might be too old to run that version of the Novell Client. You might have more success with an older version of the Novell Client for Linux.
Do you know the IP address of: a) a server holding a copy of the [Root] replica? b) the server you're attempting to log into?
You could try replacing the Tree name with the IP address of the [Root] replica holder and then browsing to your required context via the button in the client. Or try replacing your Server name with the IP address of the server.
I do not know the Novell client very well. It looks to me as though the Context is a machine which could be replaced by an IP address. I did not think the Tree entry was a machine name. As such, I am not sure how I could get the IP address. So, I am no further...
Jon
-- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 10:32 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
On Friday 15 February 2008 21:03:53 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Hello
I am trying to run Novell Client for Linux on OpenSUSE 10.0. My client is from novell-client-1.1.0-4.rpm. But I cannot log in. I can log in on a Windows PC using Novell Client for Windows. So, I took all the information in the Advanced settings of the Windows login and put it in the Linux Advanced settings. But no joy. I get this: 10.0 is _old_. It might be too old to run that version of the Novell Client. You might have more success with an older version of the Novell Client for Linux.
Do you know the IP address of: a) a server holding a copy of the [Root] replica? b) the server you're attempting to log into?
You could try replacing the Tree name with the IP address of the [Root] replica holder and then browsing to your required context via the button in the client. Or try replacing your Server name with the IP address of the server.
I do not know the Novell client very well. It looks to me as though the Context is a machine which could be replaced by an IP address. I did not think the Tree entry was a machine name. As such, I am not sure how I could get the IP address. So, I am no further...
Jon
IIRC (and it has been some time)... Context in NDS usually means the container in which the object is located, So if your user object is placed in say the container IT in the container Admin of the organisation company then its context is.. .company.admin.IT (BTW you can use X500 style notation if you are happier with it). If the context is set to this at login the client will search that context (or in some cases the context and its subordinates) for the user object. What you may be getting mixed up with is the service location protocol stuff which gives you a connection to a NDS server from which the NDS info can be obtained. I think this could either be supplied by a specially crafted DHCP packet or a special DNS entry, but I have not done much with NDS for quite some time now so I am not certain to what extent this still holds and how accurate my memory is on this. It is possible that the context setting is being used to generate a DNS query to find the server(s) hosting the relevant replicas, and for some reason this query is not working. - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHuWqJasN0sSnLmgIRAlCQAJ4uFxzE1sEFtnpKM/j9YUYZFgReVACg05js dD9LjJwqUv9O7uHhk8d6IyA= =/fDO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 18 February 2008 18:03:35 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 10:32 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
On Friday 15 February 2008 21:03:53 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Hello
I am trying to run Novell Client for Linux on OpenSUSE 10.0. My client is from novell-client-1.1.0-4.rpm. But I cannot log in. I can log in on a Windows PC using Novell Client for Windows. So, I took all the information in the Advanced settings of the Windows login and put it in the Linux Advanced settings. But no joy. I get this:
Do you know the IP address of: a) a server holding a copy of the [Root] replica? b) the server you're attempting to log into?
You could try replacing the Tree name with the IP address of the [Root] replica holder and then browsing to your required context via the button in the client. Or try replacing your Server name with the IP address of the server.
I do not know the Novell client very well. It looks to me as though the Context is a machine which could be replaced by an IP address. I did not think the Tree entry was a machine name. As such, I am not sure how I could get the IP address. So, I am no further...
Just to confirm; you're using SUSE Linux 10.0, and not SLED 10, yes? Can you also find out if the NetWare server(s) you're connecting to are using IP as their protocols. Since NetWare 5.0 IP has been supported natively, but IPX is still supported and in regular use. If the servers are not using IP then this is never going to work. As Graham has outlined in his mail, the context is simply your user object's location within the eDirectory tree. This is important so that the client can locate your user object. If I were you I'd try seeing which servers you're connected to after a successful Windows logon. This should be obvious by right clicking on the 'big red N' in the system tray or on Network Neighbourhood and checking the connections. Then ping the servers to find out their IP addresses. You can then put one of these IP addresses in the server field of the Novell Client for Linux. If you're lucky one might be a [Root] replica server, and you could put it in the Tree field, and see if you can browse the available contexts. If you can browse the contexts (see the tree structure) then you know you can make a tree connection and a login should be easy. Failing that, as a long shot you could try seeing if you can locate the tree you need by pressing the Tree button... If after all that has failed you might be needing your NetWare admin to be helping out as they'll know the specifics of the eDirectory/NetWare environment. Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 10:27 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
Just to confirm; you're using SUSE Linux 10.0, and not SLED 10, yes? Can you also find out if the NetWare server(s) you're connecting to are using IP as their protocols. Since NetWare 5.0 IP has been supported natively, but IPX is still supported and in regular use. If the servers are not using IP then this is never going to work.
OpenSUSE 10.0. I will check if it is IP. I have a feeling it is. But I will check.
As Graham has outlined in his mail, the context is simply your user object's location within the eDirectory tree. This is important so that the client can locate your user object. If I were you I'd try seeing which servers you're connected to after a successful Windows logon. This should be obvious by right clicking on the 'big red N' in the system tray or on Network Neighbourhood and checking the connections. Then ping the servers to find out their IP addresses. You can then put one of these IP addresses in the server field of the Novell Client for Linux. If you're lucky one might be a [Root] replica server, and you could put it in the Tree field, and see if you can browse the available contexts. If you can browse the contexts (see the tree structure) then you know you can make a tree connection and a login should be easy.
I took all the settings from the Windows Novell client login box, which looks very similar to the Linux one. I can ping the machine listed in Server. I also enered the IP address. It made no difference.
Failing that, as a long shot you could try seeing if you can locate the tree you need by pressing the Tree button... If after all that has failed you might be needing your NetWare admin to be helping out as they'll know the specifics of the eDirectory/NetWare environment.
If I press the Trees button, nothing happens. The entry box contains the name I used from the Windows Novell login. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 19 February 2008 15:14:07 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 10:27 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
I took all the settings from the Windows Novell client login box, which looks very similar to the Linux one. I can ping the machine listed in Server. I also enered the IP address. It made no difference.
It all looks very similar, and uses the same protocols. The configurations are somewhat different though. Typically the client will use Service Location Protocol (SLP) to locate services, such as trees, servers etc. on the network. If pressing the Tree button returns a blank dialog box then this discovery is failing to locate the tree. This could be due to a misconfigured SLP configuration on the client or possibly through eDirectory. This is something your NetWare/eDirectory admins will know more about however.
Failing that, as a long shot you could try seeing if you can locate the tree you need by pressing the Tree button... If after all that has failed you might be needing your NetWare admin to be helping out as they'll know the specifics of the eDirectory/NetWare environment.
If I press the Trees button, nothing happens. The entry box contains the name I used from the Windows Novell login.
Having the name in the Tree box relies on being able to resolve that name to an IP address. Normally, via SLP, DNS, or NDS (which would suggest an eDirectory connection). Obviously if these fail then the tree connection will fail as well. You should really try and find out from your eDirectory admin an IP address of a server holding a [Root] replica. If you have this IP address in the Tree field (or indeed a hosts entry for the treename with this IP address)) then you should be able to browse the contexts. The pressing of the context button to browse contexts has always been the real test of tree connectivity - if this fails the connection has failed, if it works you know you can connect. The first thing to get right is to make sure you can resolve the tree name to an appropriate IP address (i.e. a [Root] replica holder). Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 18 February 2008 05:03:35 am Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 10:32 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
On Friday 15 February 2008 21:03:53 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Hello
I am trying to run Novell Client for Linux on OpenSUSE 10.0. My client is from novell-client-1.1.0-4.rpm. But I cannot log in. I can log in on a Windows PC using Novell Client for Windows. So, I took all the information in the Advanced settings of the Windows login and put it in the Linux Advanced settings. But no joy. I get this:
10.0 is _old_. It might be too old to run that version of the Novell Client. You might have more success with an older version of the Novell Client for Linux.
Do you know the IP address of: a) a server holding a copy of the [Root] replica? b) the server you're attempting to log into?
You could try replacing the Tree name with the IP address of the [Root] replica holder and then browsing to your required context via the button in the client. Or try replacing your Server name with the IP address of the server.
I do not know the Novell client very well. It looks to me as though the Context is a machine which could be replaced by an IP address. I did not think the Tree entry was a machine name. As such, I am not sure how I could get the IP address. So, I am no further...
Jon
-- Roger Oberholtzer
OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST
Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden
Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696
As far as I know NCL was not compatible with 10.0 or 10.1 http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=tip-19968html&sliceId=&dialogID=57508452&stateId=0%200%2057510689 -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Newmarket NH 03857 "let's make a difference" http://en.opensuse.org/education -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 08:15 -0500, James Tremblay wrote:
As far as I know NCL was not compatible with 10.0 or 10.1
Odd. I was just looking at that. I do not see that it says anything about 10.0 or lack of support for it. Did I miss something in the text? See: http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=2RE4wvXCwqQ%7E and http://www.novell.com/documentation/linux_client/index.html -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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