On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 14:32, Ben Rosenberg wrote:

* Gedi (gedi@ntlworld.com) [030117 11:22]: ::This is strange. Has anyone come across this before? :: ::I did a complete fresh install of SuSE 8.0 pro. When complete I entered ::the OS with no problems. Just to make sure I rebooted went back into the ::newly installed OS again. Everything was fine. :: ::I then downloaded the latest 2.4.19 kernel from mantel from ::'ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/next/RPM/k_smp-2.4.19-204.i586.rpm ::' (I am running a p4 and the current kernel detected this and installed ::smp. Uname gave '2.4.18-64GB-smp' or whatever, I can't remember the ::exact syntax). :: ::OK, with no drivers installed, still running a completely fresh install, ::I opened up kpackage and using the mantel kernel, I updated the current ::one. ::I then rebooted to check the new kernel, the screen initializes with ::'loading linux.......' then it just hangs. ::If I try running the 'linux - safe settings' the same thing happens. ::Whats happened here? :: ::I was under the impression the rpm file did everything required to fully ::update the kernel. Did I miss something, do I need to alter some ::configuration files?

If you are not running a dual processor machine. Then you should not be running an SMP kernel. It's for machines with more then one proc in them. I would boot off the CD telling it to boot installed system. It will use the kernel on the CD. Then I would replace the SMP kernel with the one called k_deflt because this would be for single proc machines. Your problems will most likely disappear, but because you are using Mantel's 2.4.19 kernel on an 8.0 system..you may have to update some other pkgs to get everything running up to spec.

-- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I'll tell you what you should see.

I too have tried the kernel in Mantel's folders without luck. I tried the k_deflt and had the same results in a laptop. -- Ken Schneider Senior UNIX Administrator Network Administrator 21st Century Oncology, Inc. 239-931-7350 (help desk) 239-931-7383 (fax) kschneider@rtsx.com

On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 20:32, Ben Rosenberg wrote:

If you are not running a dual processor machine. Then you should not be running an SMP kernel. It's for machines with more then one proc in them. I would boot off the CD telling it to boot installed system. It will use the kernel on the CD. Then I would replace the SMP kernel with the one called k_deflt because this would be for single proc machines. Your problems will most likely disappear, but because you are using Mantel's 2.4.19 kernel on an 8.0 system..you may have to update some other pkgs to get everything running up to spec.

There was a mini-benchmark published recently on the advantage of hyper threading. Apparently you can get something like 30% better performance compared to a single cpu kernel if you use SMP with ht. Up to 50% increases in the 2.5.x development series was also mentioned. So if it's possible to get SMP working I'd say it's worth it. -- Anders Johansson

On 01/18/2003 04:35 AM, Gedi wrote:

That's what I had heard too. That's the reason I stuck with the SMP kernel to update with. However, I'm still stuck at the point where the screen prints 'loading linux............' and then just hangs. It doesn't even attempt to boot.

Any ideas as to what my be the problem, or should I just remove the SMP kernel and use the standard 2.4.18-4GB and update from that.

Did you run lilo after you updated the kernel? You are using 8.0 with the default lilo I presume. Also, you would need to cp /boot/vmlinuz /boot/vmlinuz.suse to get the safe setting to boot. Boot from your CD and boot installed system and run lilo. -- Joe & Sesil Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.

This is strange. Has anyone come across this before?

I did a complete fresh install of SuSE 8.0 pro. When complete I entered the OS with no problems. Just to make sure I rebooted went back into

But how do I get hold of the kernel used in SuSE 8.1? Do I need to install 8.1 or is that particular kernel available seperatly. -----Original Message----- From: Anders Johansson [mailto:andjoh@rydsbo.net] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:32 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] mantel kernel update On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 20:20, Gedi wrote: the

newly installed OS again. Everything was fine.

I then downloaded the latest 2.4.19 kernel from mantel from

'ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/next/RPM/k_smp-2.4.19-204.i586.rpm

' (I am running a p4 and the current kernel detected this and installed smp. Uname gave '2.4.18-64GB-smp' or whatever, I can't remember the exact syntax).

OK, with no drivers installed, still running a completely fresh install, I opened up kpackage and using the mantel kernel, I updated the current one. I then rebooted to check the new kernel, the screen initializes with 'loading linux.......' then it just hangs. If I try running the 'linux - safe settings' the same thing happens. Whats happened here?

I was under the impression the rpm file did everything required to fully update the kernel. Did I miss something, do I need to alter some configuration files?

One thing you apparently missed is that the kernels in people/mantel are development kernels. They are there for testing purposes only. They usually work, but there are no guarantees. There's sometimes new patches being tested in those. I wouldn't rely on them if I were you. -- Anders Johansson -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com