This is from the build service. It is in response to a question on opensuse. -- Boyd Gerber ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:38:59 +0200 From: Marcus Rueckert To: Benji Weber Cc: Subject: Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Redirector availability On 2007-09-15 11:43:46 +0100, Benji Weber wrote:

So the redirector has gone down /again/ this weekend.

wrong. the redirector is still working: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/ many people still have http://software.opensuse.org in their repository list. that host is broken. yes. (it looks like hardware problems)

And of course we get all the users coming asking why their package management isn't working while there are no suse people around to fix it.

Having a high availability redirector is probably the single most important thing the project needs right now. It goes down far too often, and with our current strategy of adding repositories from the community repositories module, installation, and YMPs using the redirector this means that *every openSUSE user* is without package management on a regular basis.

This inconveniences people and damages the reputation of the distribution amongst users. it also means that users cannot download the distribution at all as there is no static fallback for download.opensuse.org.

The fact that it always goes down at weekends is a problem too, as most people have jobs this is when "hobbyist" people are likely to be wanting to try things out etc.

Given how much adding repositories is automated in 10.3 we can no longer rely on users distributing themselves amongst mirrors. Therefore I think we either need to:

- Have a co-hosted redirector, with monitoring to ensure uptime in place for 10.3 or very soon after.

we are working on a HA setup for download.o.o already. but so far the host is holding up pretty good. peter is doing a good job to optimize and improve the redirector.

- Have the build service YMP & installation/community repositories suggestions use alternating mirrors instead of the redirector. Whilst this would be suboptimal as we would lose tracking of statistics etc it would be better than the situation currently where everyone loses package management regularly.

the ymps should be using download.opensuse.org already. if not that would be a critical bug. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org