[opensuse] Grub Error 21

Dave Barton

17 Jan 2008 17 Jan '08

22:48

I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get: GRUB Loading stage1.5 Grub loading, please wait... Error 21 At which point everything grinds to a standstill. Restart from the installation DVD and finalize the installation via the "Other Options -> Boot Installed System" option. Then I can log in to a fully operational KDE desktop, where everything appears to be working perfectly. The GRUB files read: /boot/grub/device.map (fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/sda (hd1) /dev/sdb /boot/grub/menu.lst # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Fri Jan 18 08:55:09 EST 2008 default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd1,5)/boot/message ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 10.3 root (hd1,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-31-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3250824A_5ND3YLCZ-part6 vga=0x317 resume=/dev/sdb5 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-31-default ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows### title Windows rootnoverify (hd1,5) chainloader (hd0,0)+1 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy### title Floppy rootnoverify (hd1,5) chainloader (fd0)+1 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.3 root (hd1,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-31-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3250824A_5ND3YLCZ-part6 vga=normal showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume edd=off 3 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-31-default /etc/grun.conf setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd1,5) quit Have checked the BIOS and hardware jumpers are set correctly. I have never experienced any GRUB issues with any previous installs, consequently I have not had reason to educate myself about GRUB configuration. I have unsuccessfully searched for and tried a few Googled suggestions. I need to get this machine back to my colleague soon and I would hate to hand it back as a Windows only box. Can any of you folks here help me out with this? TIA Dave

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James Knott

17 Jan 17 Jan

23:09

Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get:

Though I don't recall the exact details, I had a similar problem last year. IIRC, after booting with the CD and then boot installed system, I went into Yast and changed where Grub started the installed SUSE from. I think I had to specifiy the actual partition or something like that. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

23:27

James Knott wrote:

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Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get:

Though I don't recall the exact details, I had a similar problem last year. IIRC, after booting with the CD and then boot installed system, I went into Yast and changed where Grub started the installed SUSE from. I think I had to specifiy the actual partition or something like that.

I ran into this not long ago. If I recall, the only thing required to fix it was to boot from the dvd, drop to a console as root and type grub-install /dev/sda reboot -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Barton

23:56

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:[opensuse] Grub Error 21 From: David C. Rankin To: suse Date: Fri 18 Jan 2008 10:27:54 EST

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James Knott wrote:

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Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get:

Though I don't recall the exact details, I had a similar problem last year. IIRC, after booting with the CD and then boot installed system, I went into Yast and changed where Grub started the installed SUSE from. I think I had to specifiy the actual partition or something like that.

I ran into this not long ago. If I recall, the only thing required to fix it was to boot from the dvd, drop to a console as root and type

grub-install /dev/sda

reboot

Thanks for the suggestion David. I have already tried that option, but it didn't work for me. Regards Dave

Aaron Kulkis

18 Jan 18 Jan

06:29

David C. Rankin wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get:

Though I don't recall the exact details, I had a similar problem last year. IIRC, after booting with the CD and then boot installed system, I went into Yast and changed where Grub started the installed SUSE from. I think I had to specifiy the actual partition or something like that.

I ran into this not long ago. If I recall, the only thing required to fix it was to boot from the dvd, drop to a console as root and type

grub-install /dev/sda

reboot

probably a mount command in there someplace too, eh? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Rajko M.

19 Jan 19 Jan

08:40

On Friday 18 January 2008 12:29:38 am Aaron Kulkis wrote:

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I ran into this not long ago. If I recall, the only thing required to fix it was to boot from the dvd, drop to a console as root and type

grub-install /dev/sda

reboot

probably a mount command in there someplace too, eh?

Where? I don't see place for it. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Barton

17 Jan 17 Jan

23:52

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:[opensuse] Grub Error 21 From: James Knott To: SUSE Linux Date: Fri 18 Jan 2008 10:09:11 EST

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Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get:

Though I don't recall the exact details, I had a similar problem last year. IIRC, after booting with the CD and then boot installed system, I went into Yast and changed where Grub started the installed SUSE from. I think I had to specifiy the actual partition or something like that.

Thanks for the quick reply James. I have been trying a number of different options in the GRUB configuration, but so far I have no luck. Without going through the install DVD, I continually come back to the Error 21 :( Regards Dave

Philippe Landau

18 Jan 18 Jan

00:30

Dave Barton wrote:

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Thanks for the quick reply James. I have been trying a number of different options in the GRUB configuration, but so far I have no luck. Without going through the install DVD, I continually come back to the Error 21 :( There are a few areas where the blatant lack of good software can make you loose days trying to make Linux work: Startup manager Grub sometimes for example numbers drives differently then Bios, in these cases Lilo can work. Many lost just as many hours with bugs and features in Lilo though. Other disaster areas where the immature state of today's Linux become painfully obvious for simple users are fixing file system trouble, or recovering deleted files. Of course for "experts" these problems have long been solved.

Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

00:31

Dave Barton wrote:

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-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:[opensuse] Grub Error 21 From: James Knott To: SUSE Linux Date: Fri 18 Jan 2008 10:09:11 EST

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Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get:

Though I don't recall the exact details, I had a similar problem last year. IIRC, after booting with the CD and then boot installed system, I went into Yast and changed where Grub started the installed SUSE from. I think I had to specifiy the actual partition or something like that.

Thanks for the quick reply James. I have been trying a number of different options in the GRUB configuration, but so far I have no luck. Without going through the install DVD, I continually come back to the Error 21 :(

Regards

Dave

Found this on google: (grub error 21) http://osdir.com/ml/boot-loaders.grub.bugs/2003-02/msg00080.html It may help. If not, there are reams of other grub error 21 links -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Barton

01:07

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:[opensuse] Grub Error 21 From: David C. Rankin To: suse Date: Fri 18 Jan 2008 11:31:47 EST

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Dave Barton wrote:

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-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:[opensuse] Grub Error 21 From: James Knott To: SUSE Linux Date: Fri 18 Jan 2008 10:09:11 EST

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Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get:

Though I don't recall the exact details, I had a similar problem last year. IIRC, after booting with the CD and then boot installed system, I went into Yast and changed where Grub started the installed SUSE from. I think I had to specifiy the actual partition or something like that.

Thanks for the quick reply James. I have been trying a number of different options in the GRUB configuration, but so far I have no luck. Without going through the install DVD, I continually come back to the Error 21 :(

Regards

Dave

Found this on google: (grub error 21)

http://osdir.com/ml/boot-loaders.grub.bugs/2003-02/msg00080.html

It may help. If not, there are reams of other grub error 21 links

Thanks again David. I read the proposed solution, but the BIOS already has the suggested configuration. As I said in my original post, I have Googled for and tried a number of the suggested options I found there, but still no joy. Having spent most of the past 2 days trying to resolve this issue and having a business to run, I will have to concede defeat and return the machine as a "Windows Only" box. :_( My thanks to everyone who tried to help. Dave

James Knott

02:26

Dave Barton wrote:

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-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:[opensuse] Grub Error 21 From: James Knott To: SUSE Linux Date: Fri 18 Jan 2008 10:09:11 EST

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Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get:

Though I don't recall the exact details, I had a similar problem last year. IIRC, after booting with the CD and then boot installed system, I went into Yast and changed where Grub started the installed SUSE from. I think I had to specifiy the actual partition or something like that.

Thanks for the quick reply James. I have been trying a number of different options in the GRUB configuration, but so far I have no luck. Without going through the install DVD, I continually come back to the Error 21 :(

Regards

Dave

Check on the boot loader installation tab, to see where it's booting from. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Chee How Chua

17:01

On Jan 18, 2008 10:26 AM, James Knott wrote:

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Check on the boot loader installation tab, to see where it's booting from.

David, can you post your /etc/grub.conf here? I'm curious as to where you installed your boot loader. I'm guessing the complication for Dave (OP) is on the location of the boot loader? I'm not exactly sure how GRUB works but Dave's /etc/grub.conf reads: setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd1,5) quit which seems like the boot loader is installed in MBR of sda but it is trying to load GRUB from sdb6? Probably YaST will show a different story. But if this is really the case, will it cause a problem to have stage1 on one disk and stage2 on another? Mine is: setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd0,4) quit Quite straightforward - I installed in MBR of sda and load GRUB from sda5. All within the same disk. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Barton

21:07

-------- Original Message -------- From: Chee How Chua Date: Sat 19 Jan 2008 04:01:07 EST

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On Jan 18, 2008 10:26 AM, James Knott wrote:

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Check on the boot loader installation tab, to see where it's booting from.

David, can you post your /etc/grub.conf here? I'm curious as to where you installed your boot loader.

I'm guessing the complication for Dave (OP) is on the location of the boot loader?

I'm not exactly sure how GRUB works but Dave's /etc/grub.conf reads: setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd1,5) quit

which seems like the boot loader is installed in MBR of sda but it is trying to load GRUB from sdb6? Probably YaST will show a different story. But if this is really the case, will it cause a problem to have stage1 on one disk and stage2 on another?

Mine is: setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd0,4) quit

Quite straightforward - I installed in MBR of sda and load GRUB from sda5. All within the same disk.

OK, I believe I have tried just about every GRUB alternative option and come up blank every time. In desperation, I used "fixmbr" from the XP CD and deleted all partitions from the second drive. Started a totally clean 10.3 install and accepted the default options offered. This should be the easiest configuration for the installer to handle, but no, on first reboot I am back to Error 21 and my GRUB files now show: /boot/grub/device.map (fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/sda (hd1) /dev/sdb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- /boot/grub/menu.lst # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sat Jan 19 06:58:41 EST 2008 default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd1,1)/boot/message ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 10.3 root (hd1,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-31-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3250824A_5ND3YLCZ-part2 vga=0x317 resume=/dev/sdb1 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-31-default ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows### title Windows rootnoverify (hd1,1) chainloader (hd0,0)+1 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy### title Floppy rootnoverify (hd1,1) chainloader (fd0)+1 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.3 root (hd1,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-31-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3250824A_5ND3YLCZ-part2 vga=normal showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 edd=off 3 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-31-default ----------------------------------------------------------------------- /etc/grub.conf setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd1,1) quit ----------------------------------------------------------------------- In the past I have done numerous installs with Win on the first drive and Linux on the second and never had anything like this problem. Unfortunately, I don't have access to another machine with this configuration to check against. My real concern is that I was just about to set up one of my production boxes with this same configuration, but in view of this issue I must now seriously consider an alternative to openSUSE. Regards Dave

Olaf Dabrunz

20 Jan 20 Jan

16:30

On 19-Jan-08, Dave Barton wrote:

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OK, I believe I have tried just about every GRUB alternative option and come up blank every time. In desperation, I used "fixmbr" from the XP CD and deleted all partitions from the second drive. Started a totally clean 10.3 install and accepted the default options offered. This should be the easiest configuration for the installer to handle, but no, on first reboot I am back to Error 21 and my GRUB files now show:

Error 21, I see.

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[...] -----------------------------------------------------------------------

/etc/grub.conf setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd1,1) quit

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Configuration looks good. This looks like a BIOS problem: 21 : Selected disk does not exist This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system. Please check whether the BIOS is seeing the second hard drive. Also, sometimes you may need additional settings in the BIOS to make the hard drive accessible for booting. I doubt this is a problem with GRUB, but to make sure you may want to open a bug against GRUB at bugzilla.novell.com.

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In the past I have done numerous installs with Win on the first drive and Linux on the second and never had anything like this problem. Unfortunately, I don't have access to another machine with this configuration to check against.

My real concern is that I was just about to set up one of my production boxes with this same configuration, but in view of this issue I must now seriously consider an alternative to openSUSE.

Booting from the second hard drive sometimes triggers (BIOS) problems that booting from the first hard drive does not trigger. As Linux still is more likely to be installed on a second hard drive, it unfortunately sees more of these bugs. Windows usually does not see these problems at all, as most people have it on the first hard drive. Regards, -- Olaf Dabrunz (Olaf <at> dabrunz.com) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David C. Rankin

18 Jan 18 Jan

01:08

Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get:

GRUB Loading stage1.5 Grub loading, please wait... Error 21

At which point everything grinds to a standstill.

Restart from the installation DVD and finalize the installation via the "Other Options -> Boot Installed System" option. Then I can log in to a fully operational KDE desktop, where everything appears to be working perfectly.

The GRUB files read:

/boot/grub/device.map

(fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/sda (hd1) /dev/sdb

/boot/grub/menu.lst

# Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Fri Jan 18 08:55:09 EST 2008 default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd1,5)/boot/message

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 10.3 root (hd1,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-31-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3250824A_5ND3YLCZ-part6 vga=0x317 resume=/dev/sdb5 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-31-default

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows### title Windows rootnoverify (hd1,5) chainloader (hd0,0)+1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy### title Floppy rootnoverify (hd1,5) chainloader (fd0)+1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.3 root (hd1,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-31-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3250824A_5ND3YLCZ-part6 vga=normal showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume edd=off 3 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-31-default

/etc/grun.conf setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd1,5) quit

Have checked the BIOS and hardware jumpers are set correctly.

I have never experienced any GRUB issues with any previous installs, consequently I have not had reason to educate myself about GRUB configuration. I have unsuccessfully searched for and tried a few Googled suggestions. I need to get this machine back to my colleague soon and I would hate to hand it back as a Windows only box.

Can any of you folks here help me out with this?

TIA

Dave

Dave, I guess the only other way I can help is to post a working grub config from one of my dual boot machines hand hope it helps. Here goes: The drives I have are sda (windows) sdb and sdc (linux raid) with md0, md1 and md2 as follows: ripper:/home/david # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/md1 20641788 6299548 13293604 33% / udev 517984 128 517856 1% /dev /dev/md0 69960 15487 50861 24% /boot /dev/md2 286877332 220164 272084616 1% /home /dev/sda1 61440560 54750856 6689704 90% /windows/C /dev/sda6 17928508 66556 17861952 1% /windows/D Just substitute /sdb for /md above and below for your setup (your partition numbers may vary) My swap is /dev/sda5 The device.map is: ripper:/boot # cat grub/device.map (fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/sda (hd2) /dev/sdc (hd1) /dev/sdb What does yours show for (hd1)? I ask because in your first menu.lst definition for 10.3 you have root (hd1,5) and then root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3250824A_5ND3YLCZ-part6. This may be right, but it is worth a double check. You may want to try setting this to /dev/sdb# where # is what is shown as / in response to df. the working menu.lst I have is: # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Tue Jan 1 22:39:43 CST 2008 default 2 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd1,0)/message ##YaST - activate ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 10.3 - 2.6.22.13-0.3 root (hd1,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.22.13-0.3-default root=/dev/md1 vga=0x31a resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent showopts initrd /initrd-2.6.22.13-0.3-default ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.3 - 2.6.22.13-0.3 root (hd1,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.22.13-0.3-default root=/dev/md1 vga=normal showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 edd=off 3 initrd /initrd-2.6.22.13-0.3-default ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows### title Windows rootnoverify (hd1,0) chainloader (hd0,0)+1 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy### title Floppy rootnoverify (hd1,0) chainloader (fd0)+1 -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Barton

01:31

-------- Original Message -------- From: David C. Rankin Date: Fri 18 Jan 2008 12:08:02 EST

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Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 8<-- snip -->8

Thanks for sticking with me on this issue David. I really have to get on and catch up on some work right now, but I will give your suggestions a try tonight and get back with the results. Regards Dave

David C. Rankin

21:29

Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get:

GRUB Loading stage1.5 Grub loading, please wait... Error 21

At which point everything grinds to a standstill.

Restart from the installation DVD and finalize the installation via the "Other Options -> Boot Installed System" option. Then I can log in to a fully operational KDE desktop, where everything appears to be working perfectly.

The GRUB files read:

/boot/grub/device.map

(fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/sda (hd1) /dev/sdb

/boot/grub/menu.lst

# Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Fri Jan 18 08:55:09 EST 2008 default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd1,5)/boot/message

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 10.3 root (hd1,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-31-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3250824A_5ND3YLCZ-part6 vga=0x317 resume=/dev/sdb5 splash=silent showopts initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-31-default

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows### title Windows rootnoverify (hd1,5) chainloader (hd0,0)+1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy### title Floppy rootnoverify (hd1,5) chainloader (fd0)+1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.3 root (hd1,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.5-31-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3250824A_5ND3YLCZ-part6 vga=normal showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume edd=off 3 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.22.5-31-default

/etc/grun.conf setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd1,5) quit

Have checked the BIOS and hardware jumpers are set correctly.

I have never experienced any GRUB issues with any previous installs, consequently I have not had reason to educate myself about GRUB configuration. I have unsuccessfully searched for and tried a few Googled suggestions. I need to get this machine back to my colleague soon and I would hate to hand it back as a Windows only box.

Can any of you folks here help me out with this?

TIA

Dave

Dave, Do you have a BIOS setting that allows you to set your second hard drive a "bootable" as well. I know you said you checked the BIOS, but it would be worth another look to see if that setting is present. I have a Gigabyte board that requires the drives to be specifically set as bootable to be able to boot from those drives. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Barton

21 Jan 21 Jan

05:31

New subject: [opensuse] Grub Error 21 (SOLVED)

-------- Original Message -------- From: David C. Rankin Date: Sat 19 Jan 2008 08:29:11 EST

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Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 8<-- snip -->8 Have checked the BIOS and hardware jumpers are set correctly. 8<-- snip -->8 Can any of you folks here help me out with this?

TIA

Dave

Dave,

Do you have a BIOS setting that allows you to set your second hard drive a "bootable" as well. I know you said you checked the BIOS, but it would be worth another look to see if that setting is present. I have a Gigabyte board that requires the drives to be specifically set as bootable to be able to boot from those drives.

I battled on with this issue over the weekend (desperately need sleep), without any real progress. Before actually "throwing in the towel", I went back over all the advice you folks have generously tried to help me with. Believing that I had done a 100% check on the BIOS settings, I must have overlooked this little gem. Today I rechecked the BIOS and located the (almost hidden) option to switch the hdd boot priority, moved the second drive to the top of the list. On reboot I was greeted with that, not very attractive, but so very welcome GRUB menu. A big THANK YOU David. I should have listened to you in the first place. Now, the really hard part will be to get my colleague to give openSUSE a fair trial. Hum! What should I use, a baseball bat, or...... ;) Regards Dave

Aaron Kulkis

06:12

New subject: [opensuse] Grub Error 21 (SOLVED)

Dave Barton wrote:

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-------- Original Message -------- From: David C. Rankin Date: Sat 19 Jan 2008 08:29:11 EST

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Dave Barton wrote:

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 8<-- snip -->8 Have checked the BIOS and hardware jumpers are set correctly. 8<-- snip -->8 Can any of you folks here help me out with this?

TIA

Dave

Dave,

Do you have a BIOS setting that allows you to set your second hard drive a "bootable" as well. I know you said you checked the BIOS, but it would be worth another look to see if that setting is present. I have a Gigabyte board that requires the drives to be specifically set as bootable to be able to boot from those drives.

I battled on with this issue over the weekend (desperately need sleep), without any real progress. Before actually "throwing in the towel", I went back over all the advice you folks have generously tried to help me with. Believing that I had done a 100% check on the BIOS settings, I must have overlooked this little gem. Today I rechecked the BIOS and located the (almost hidden) option to switch the hdd boot priority, moved the second drive to the top of the list. On reboot I was greeted with that, not very attractive, but so very welcome GRUB menu.

Sometimes fatigue is your worst enemy, killing your ability to make logical and complete observations rest is the only solution. Knowing your limits in this area is crucial. I was once criticized for not staying up all hours of the night to solve a 30-minute problem before a test-run at noon the next day. (This after a 10-hour drive (normally 5 hours) in a snow storm from our corporate headquarters out to this warehouse where we were conducting a test of a new pilot system).... As I explained to the warehouse manager -- I could have stayed at the site, and being very fatigued, continually get things wrong...and more wrong as the night dragged on, or I could go back to my hotel get some rest, and, as soon as the meeting is over, get the problem solved in 30 minutes, leaving 3 hours to spare before the start of the test. As it was, I had to go to my "plan B", (which involv ed an series of tests and then fabricating a custom interface conversion) which took an hour...but if I had tried it the night before... who knows if I ever would have had it right before finally just hitting the wall.

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A big THANK YOU David. I should have listened to you in the first place.

Now, the really hard part will be to get my colleague to give openSUSE a fair trial. Hum! What should I use, a baseball bat, or...... ;)

Tell him you'll treat him and his wife for dinner some night if he can demonstrate proficiency with Konqueror, OpenOffice, and a couple other things in 30 days.

...

Regards

Dave

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David C. Rankin

06:19

New subject: [opensuse] Grub Error 21 (SOLVED)

Dave Barton wrote:

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-------- Original Message -------- From: David C. Rankin Date: Sat 19 Jan 2008 08:29:11 EST

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Dave Barton wrote:

...
I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 8<-- snip -->8 Have checked the BIOS and hardware jumpers are set correctly. 8<-- snip -->8 Can any of you folks here help me out with this?

TIA

Dave

Dave,

Do you have a BIOS setting that allows you to set your second hard drive a "bootable" as well. I know you said you checked the BIOS, but it would be worth another look to see if that setting is present. I have a Gigabyte board that requires the drives to be specifically set as bootable to be able to boot from those drives.

I battled on with this issue over the weekend (desperately need sleep), without any real progress. Before actually "throwing in the towel", I went back over all the advice you folks have generously tried to help me with. Believing that I had done a 100% check on the BIOS settings, I must have overlooked this little gem. Today I rechecked the BIOS and located the (almost hidden) option to switch the hdd boot priority, moved the second drive to the top of the list. On reboot I was greeted with that, not very attractive, but so very welcome GRUB menu.

A big THANK YOU David. I should have listened to you in the first place.

Now, the really hard part will be to get my colleague to give openSUSE a fair trial. Hum! What should I use, a baseball bat, or...... ;)

Regards

Dave

Woohoo, I finally guessed right! For you colleague, with all the perseverance and dedication you showed in sticking with the install, you should explain that you would like to see the same in return on their fair trial of 10.3. We all know, but need to find a way to convey, that they will not find a more elegant or capable OS -- period. Good for you Dave, now let's see if your colleague will do their part. We build open source 1 convert at a time. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

20 Jan 20 Jan

16:09

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I have just upgraded a PC for a colleague, who, after much badgering and encouragement, conceded to have a dual boot install of OpenSUSE 10.3 on a second drive. Installed XP Pro on hd0, no problem. Created a FAT32 partition on hd1 using 50% of the disk capacity, leaving remainder unallocated for Linux partitions. Booted to the 10.3 installation DVD and the install to hd1, including on-line updates, went perfectly, until the first reboot, where I get:

GRUB Loading stage1.5 Grub loading, please wait... Error 21

At which point everything grinds to a standstill.

21 : Selected disk does not exist This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system. Sadly, grub errors are difficult to track and solve. No hand holding, no verbose logs... An idea: does your bios allows booting from the second hard disk? If it does, it might solve the situation. Just mark a partition as bootable in the second disk and install grub on that one. In this way, grub will not be attempting to install in one disk and boot another disk, which appears to be a situation it doesn't like. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHk3JTtTMYHG2NR9URAga3AJsHOCVBd4f2PdG2IflszIQBXQRk4wCdFWyk MN6KFqJe5Bpwcqa61I+LFjo= =ZZUQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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