Splitting and redirecting mailing-lists (was: openSUSE governance)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Adrian Schroeter wrote:
On Sunday 13 November 2005 18:09, Michael K Dolan Jr wrote: ...
And I'd also suggest that Suse developers need to be more active externally - you're an open project now - why collaborate/email/discuss internally without collaborating with the community. You may be surprised at some of the benefits. Other projects have done this well...
the main problem here is that plenty developers do fear the traffic on this mailing list and that we still not have a transparent system to follow and discuss issues depending on specific components of the system.
Exactly
What we could do is to define more mailinglists to specific areas to improve this (you can see a way better response time already on the opensuse-* lists).
=> "support" questions about stable SUSE Linux releases (i.e. 10.0) => suse-linux-e
=> questions about development versions of SUSE Linux (i.e. 10.1) => opensuse-factory
Here: opensuse.org community, governance, ...
Could we agree on this ?
Has anyone on this list a problem with that ?
If we do agree on splitting the lists and topics like that, we should all redirect questions and
topics that don't belong onto this list to the appropriate one.
Maybe the description of the list should be refined on
http://www.opensuse.org/Communicate
cheers
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=> "support" questions about stable SUSE Linux releases (i.e. 10.0) => suse-linux-e => questions about development versions of SUSE Linux (i.e. 10.1) => opensuse-factory I think it's better to use one list for the retail (suse-linux-e) version and one list for the OSS version. suse-linux-e is a very high traffic mailing
Hi Pascal, On Sunday 20 November 2005 12:50, Pascal Bleser wrote: list... Cheers, -- Damian Mihai Liviu Mobile: +40 741 226993; Fax: +1 347-632-4117 Phone : +1 360-526-6441; +1 347-632-4117; +44 0870-3403339 URL: http://liviudm.blogspot.com
Damian Mihai Liviu wrote:
[...] I think it's better to use one list for the retail (suse-linux-e) version and one list for the OSS version. suse-linux-e is a very high traffic mailing list...
IMHO, that proposal does not make any sense. The retail version and the OSS version are more or less identical, so your proposal would just scatter all the questions and answers and make life more difficult. I really prefer the model that all customer support questions go to the suse-* mailing lists (these lists are already subdivided into several topics!) and that we keep one mailing list for the opensuse community (this list). Adrian's point that "plenty developers do fear the traffic" is comprehensible, thus we need to improve something. From my point of view, however, we should not subdivide this list. Redirecting all traffic to those lists where it belongs might already solve many problems. With best regards from London, Th.
Damian Mihai Liviu wrote:
Hi Pascal,
=> "support" questions about stable SUSE Linux releases (i.e. 10.0) => suse-linux-e => questions about development versions of SUSE Linux (i.e. 10.1) => opensuse-factory I think it's better to use one list for the retail (suse-linux-e) version and one list for the OSS version. suse-linux-e is a very high traffic mailing
On Sunday 20 November 2005 12:50, Pascal Bleser wrote: list...
Cheers, may be it could be split by version number jdd
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Hello, Am Sonntag, 20. November 2005 14:37 schrieb jdd:
Damian Mihai Liviu wrote:
On Sunday 20 November 2005 12:50, Pascal Bleser wrote:
=> "support" questions about stable SUSE Linux releases (i.e. 10.0) => suse-linux-e => questions about development versions of SUSE Linux (i.e. 10.1) => opensuse-factory
I think it's better to use one list for the retail (suse-linux-e) version and one list for the OSS version. suse-linux-e is a very high traffic mailing list...
may be it could be split by version number
I guess this won't be very helpful because - lists about "older" SUSE releases won't have very much people who can answer questions (I guess most people here are running 10.0 or even factory, so: who should help 9.1-users? ;-) - many questions are not related to a specific SUSE release, so you would duplicate questions and answers - I would have to change my mailinglist subscribtion twice a year ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Nicht das ich frei von Paranoia Schueben waere ;), aber wenn Dir das passiert spiel sofort Lotto, bei dem Glueck bekommst Du bestimmt 4 Wochen den 6er mit Superzahl. [Maik Holtkamp in suse-linux]
Christian Boltz wrote:
factory, so: who should help 9.1-users? ;-)
I run 10.0 but also 9.0 (on my server)
- many questions are not related to a specific SUSE release, so you would duplicate questions and answers
not so many
- I would have to change my mailinglist subscribtion twice a year ;-)
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On Sunday 20 November 2005 11:50, Pascal Bleser wrote:
Adrian Schroeter wrote:
What we could do is to define more mailinglists to specific areas to improve this (you can see a way better response time already on the opensuse-* lists).
=> "support" questions about stable SUSE Linux releases (i.e. 10.0) => suse-linux-e => questions about development versions of SUSE Linux (i.e. 10.1) => opensuse-factory
yes that is already the idea. I have added a note about this on the communicate wiki page.
Here: opensuse.org community, governance, ...
Could we agree on this ? Has anyone on this list a problem with that ?
I simply doubt that this will work, because simply the naming of this list will make the impression that you can use it, if you do not find any other matching list. We should create a governance list instead.
If we do agree on splitting the lists and topics like that, we should all redirect questions and topics that don't belong onto this list to the appropriate one.
Maybe the description of the list should be refined on http://www.opensuse.org/Communicate
Is this one better now ? bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian@suse.de
Adrian Schroeter wrote:
Maybe the description of the list should be refined on http://www.opensuse.org/Communicate
Is this one better now ?
yes. I add the direct link for speeding thinks. It would be better to make a link to the line below with suse-e, but I'm not enough confident in mediawiki to do this jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Adrian Schroeter wrote:
On Sunday 20 November 2005 11:50, Pascal Bleser wrote:
Adrian Schroeter wrote:
What we could do is to define more mailinglists to specific areas to improve this (you can see a way better response time already on the opensuse-* lists). => "support" questions about stable SUSE Linux releases (i.e. 10.0) => suse-linux-e => questions about development versions of SUSE Linux (i.e. 10.1) => opensuse-factory
yes that is already the idea. I have added a note about this on the communicate wiki page.
Here: opensuse.org community, governance, ... Could we agree on this ? Has anyone on this list a problem with that ?
I simply doubt that this will work, because simply the naming of this list will make the impression that you can use it, if you do not find any other matching list. We should create a governance list instead.
Yes but if we do so, the opensuse list will become un undefined trashcan for any discussion although there already are dedicated lists for every topic (at least for those to come to my mind).
If we do agree on splitting the lists and topics like that, we should all redirect questions and topics that don't belong onto this list to the appropriate one.
Maybe the description of the list should be refined on http://www.opensuse.org/Communicate
Is this one better now ?
Yes, thanks Adrian :)
cheers
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Thomas Hertweck