[opensuse] Evolution vs. Thunderbird
Hi all, far from wanting another "religious war"... is it me or is Evolution more feature-rich than Thunderbird? I even found references like this one: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/23/1648242 One of the things I found good on Evolution is the ability to send an email to the attendees for a meeting when a new calendar entry is created... this fails on Thunderbird+Lightning (version 0.3.1), although I heard that Lightning 0.5 is about to hit the streets and will provide such feature as well... All in all, this is my second day using Evolution. I'm more KDE-oriented and also a Thunderbird/Firefox user for years now but I have to admit that Evolution looks quite decent... As usual, suggestions on this subject are more than welcomed! TIA, Martin ____________________________________________________________________________________Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 03:00 -0700, Martin Mielke wrote:
Hi all,
far from wanting another "religious war"... is it me or is Evolution more feature-rich than Thunderbird?
My reason for choosing evolution is that it does a better job than Thunderbird or kmail of handling IMAP mail stores. Especially when there are many many files in many many sub-folders. kmail (reported by many, never correctly fixed) is not even ably to keep info on new messages in IMAP folders correct without you actually going in to that folder. Not possible when you have 40-50 folders. Thunderbird blocks when checking IMAP folders. I do not check needlessly often (whatever thunderbird's default time is has been used). But it results in quite a bit of hourglasses popping up when I am trying to answer some message. Evolution is always iffy when there is an update. I cross my fingers and hope. But as I keep my mail in an IMAP server, I can make do with kmail until evolution sorts itself out. Aside from that, I am a happy KDE/evolution user. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
El jue, 24-05-2007 a las 03:00 -0700, Martin Mielke escribió:
Hi all,
far from wanting another "religious war"... is it me or is Evolution more feature-rich than Thunderbird?
I even found references like this one: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/23/1648242
One of the things I found good on Evolution is the ability to send an email to the attendees for a meeting when a new calendar entry is created... this fails on Thunderbird+Lightning (version 0.3.1), although I heard that Lightning 0.5 is about to hit the streets and will provide such feature as well...
All in all, this is my second day using Evolution. I'm more KDE-oriented and also a Thunderbird/Firefox user for years now but I have to admit that Evolution looks quite decent...
As usual, suggestions on this subject are more than welcomed!
Evolution is a great mail client. I use it since 0.8 (or so) version, and I fell in love with it, and never leave apart at all. It makes everything I want, so what else? Cheers, Alejandro.
TIA, Martin
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Hello, I'd like to ask people's opinions on mail clients when using multiple IMAP servers and different mail identities or profiles. I have 4 different imap profiles, each with different settings, names, smtp servers, etc. It is also essential to use 'disconnected imap', or 'synchronous imap' where the imap store contents are mirrored on local disk. This is a 'must-have' since I must often work in places without 'net connections (or very restricted connections). I'd also like to sync my calendar and task list with my phone. I currently use Seamonkey with the Calendar extension. Does anybody have any other integrated solution? Regards Sean Hudibras wrote:
El jue, 24-05-2007 a las 03:00 -0700, Martin Mielke escribió:
Hi all,
far from wanting another "religious war"... is it me or is Evolution more feature-rich than Thunderbird?
I even found references like this one: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/23/1648242
One of the things I found good on Evolution is the ability to send an email to the attendees for a meeting when a new calendar entry is created... this fails on Thunderbird+Lightning (version 0.3.1), although I heard that Lightning 0.5 is about to hit the streets and will provide such feature as well...
All in all, this is my second day using Evolution. I'm more KDE-oriented and also a Thunderbird/Firefox user for years now but I have to admit that Evolution looks quite decent...
As usual, suggestions on this subject are more than welcomed!
Evolution is a great mail client. I use it since 0.8 (or so) version, and I fell in love with it, and never leave apart at all. It makes everything I want, so what else?
Cheers, Alejandro.
TIA, Martin
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Martin Mielke wrote:
Hi all,
far from wanting another "religious war"... is it me or is Evolution more feature-rich than Thunderbird?
Maybe, but then again, there might be some situations where you don't want all those features. The IMAP is intriguing though. I set up my AIM account with Evolution and will give it a spin, but I think I'll stay with Thunderbird, if only for my own irrational reasons (integration with GMail + I've been with it so long). It never spells a good thing when all the world chooses only one software; makes it too easy for script kiddies and such. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Folks:
Hate to break the chain of praise for Evolution but frankly I left it
and went back to Thunderbird because it is so incredibly slow.
It take a long time to open up when tied to a Exchange server but who
knows who is to blame for that but it also is sluggish when connected
to a pop server - Thunderbird is fast.
Later -
Michael
On 5/24/07, Pueblo Native
Martin Mielke wrote:
Hi all,
far from wanting another "religious war"... is it me or is Evolution more feature-rich than Thunderbird?
Maybe, but then again, there might be some situations where you don't want all those features. The IMAP is intriguing though. I set up my AIM account with Evolution and will give it a spin, but I think I'll stay with Thunderbird, if only for my own irrational reasons (integration with GMail + I've been with it so long). It never spells a good thing when all the world chooses only one software; makes it too easy for script kiddies and such. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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How do, On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 07:09 -0600, Michael Folsom wrote:
Folks:
Hate to break the chain of praise for Evolution but frankly I left it and went back to Thunderbird because it is so incredibly slow.
It take a long time to open up when tied to a Exchange server but who knows who is to blame for that but it also is sluggish when connected to a pop server - Thunderbird is fast.
I resolved the speed issue (for pop server) by, unchecking "Check incoming mail for junk" in mail preferences. Don't know if this works for Exchange server but, for pop server, Evolution is as fast (if not faster) than Thunderbird {^_^}
Later -
Michael
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On Thursday 24 May 2007 14:04:42 Pueblo Native wrote:
Martin Mielke wrote:
Hi all,
far from wanting another "religious war"... is it me or is Evolution more feature-rich than Thunderbird?
Maybe, but then again, there might be some situations where you don't want all those features. The IMAP is intriguing though. I set up my AIM account with Evolution and will give it a spin, but I think I'll stay with Thunderbird, if only for my own irrational reasons (integration with GMail + I've been with it so long). It never spells a good thing when all the world chooses only one software; makes it too easy for script kiddies and such.
I use Kontact. Typically it's IMAP interface is faster than that in Evolution - I'd been told some time ago that Evolution's IMAP interface needed improving, hopefully it has done. Kontact also works reasonably well with GroupWise at the backend (at least as well as any other client I've tried). It also seems thread messages much better than Evolution does. And, most controversially ;-) the kerry beagle application always seems to want launch kmail when it finds emails - not much help to me if they're all stored in Thunderbird. I'm not a huge user of beagle, but do find it useful every so often, and I can live with it going barking mad (pun intended) occasionally - although that doesn't happen very often. Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Martin Mielke wrote:
Hi all,
far from wanting another "religious war"... is it me or is Evolution more feature-rich than Thunderbird?
I even found references like this one: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/23/1648242
One of the things I found good on Evolution is the ability to send an email to the attendees for a meeting when a new calendar entry is created... this fails on Thunderbird+Lightning (version 0.3.1), although I heard that Lightning 0.5 is about to hit the streets and will provide such feature as well...
All in all, this is my second day using Evolution. I'm more KDE-oriented and also a Thunderbird/Firefox user for years now but I have to admit that Evolution looks quite decent...
As usual, suggestions on this subject are more than welcomed!
TIA, Martin
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Evolution was great when it worked for me in V1.0. Then I hit a number of issues with v2.0. Among which where... i) For some reason it started crashing when opening the default mail view. After a couple of month of having loading offline in the calendar view switching to the mail view the going offline I gave up on it. (BTW this is no longer an issue). ii) Never worked too well with courier-imap and still does not (see iii below). iii) Had a very bad habit of getting confused about about IMAP folders in the filtering rules. Tended to be a bit intolerant of changes made after access from other locations, subscribing to folder seems to a bit quirky. Couple of features I rather liked in v1.0 disapeared in v2.0. As I use both Windows and Linux I really need something that I could use on both platforms and synchronise things like mail filtering rules across platforms. Evolution is really Linux only, and you can do this with Thunderbird. I have recently discovered there are plugins for syncML support available for both Evolution and Mozilla that are supposed to work with funambol (formerly sync4J), which is an interesting development. I intend to explore this as I have been frustrated about how difficult it is to synchronise contact and PIM data between Symbian devices and Linux for some time. However installing funambol is not going to be a trivial exercise. This technology involves holding your mail, PIM and maybe other bits and pieces on a central repository and you synchronise that data between your various devices on demand. This could be solution for those with windows mobile, RIM (Blackberry) or palm pilot devices. There may be a connectivity issue with Thunderbird in that I have noticed connections being locked in a CLOSE_WAIT state, and TB times out as consequence. It seems to be associated with very large folders. However, I am not certain whether this is courier-imap issue, a Thunderbird issue or something else (the connection info does seem to slightly corrupt when the problem occurs), and it does seem to fire off when I am working on other network services, Unfortunately everytime I have attempted monitored the connection to get a clue about what is going on everything starts behaving itself (as it does :-(). This has only occurred since upgrading to 10.2. STOP PRESS :- The server just locked up with fam reporting several hundred too many files open messages. I not to sure this is another clue to the problem or what *sigh* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGVy3AasN0sSnLmgIRAsZrAJ0TGkNB9XIYwYuyXc9uYEekVkjbzQCdHS27 o4rvqMy86+x7xihNfKKGM8A= =WJqJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
It's all about features you need. For example I need my email client to save emails in HTML format. Evolution does not supports this, so I stick with Thunderbird. -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I would agree with you Alexey. Another issue I have with Evolution is that when you move any email into a local folder is copies it, it will not just more it. The will be a copy of every moved email into a local folder in Evolutions deleted folder. I logged a bug, but from recognition I got a wontfix. Someone else may be able to confirm status of a move email to another local folder as the file types in Evolution and Thunderbird are Mbox. Once you establish the Evolution directory for the locally held main and copy only the mbox file not the indexing files; you can copy straight into the thunderbird directory and the folder will appear under the locally held folders. You don't need to import as such. The new local mbox file will be self indexed when you open the application. The whole issue about a simple copy of every mbox file from any other source into the local directory. Open thunderbird and all local folder will appear and the application will index and provide the equivalent file name with its new thunderbird index and the mbox file index will be constructed instantly on application open. The same is true for address books, just about every email client can either hold name address books in v-card or export to a v-card. Thunderbird has a very friendly import of v-card address books where you can manipulate the fields to be retained, reclassified into new fields and ignore certain fields There are other issues with Evolution you all need to be aware of IF you use a KDE desktop. Please review this bug with an open mind based on logic not emotive preferences. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=206644 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222519 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223774 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=213865 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227359 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=224801 Good Evening to all Scott :-X 16:37 local GMT+10 Alexey Eremenko wrote:
It's all about features you need.
For example I need my email client to save emails in HTML format. Evolution does not supports this, so I stick with Thunderbird.
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