On Saturday 12 July 2008 01:20:21 am G T Smith wrote:

kanenas@hawaii.rr.com wrote:

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my free nerolinux trial is about to expire and soon I will not be able to write to a dvd with my usb connected drive. whenever k3b is started, it rings out the exact error as bug 165712, in both the 32 and 64 bit version of 10.3 and the 64 bit of 11.0. The ability to write to the dvd drive with k3b was lost with some update some time in the last six months, but i can't pinpoint it because the write function is seldom used. K3b is not the culprit, tried all available suse and packman versions, same result. has anyone found an answer or workaround for this "invalid" bug?

http://bugs.kde.org/show_activity.cgi?id=165712

try...

wodim -prcap -dev=<device name>

thanks, much appreciate the constructive help. Please help finish this. below are the outputs of your suggestions. The strange thing is that wodim only works when the dvd is unmounted. this must be some hal mini-hell mounting snafu that should be resolvable by knowledgeable people! first, tried -prcap after plugging dvd in and closing the kde "what shall i do with the new dev" popup: ...................... 103-32-sb1:/home/plain # wodim -prcap -dev=/dev/sr0 Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... giving up. WARNING: /dev/sr0 seems to be mounted! wodim: Device or resource busy. Cannot open SCSI driver! For possible targets try 'wodim --devices' or 'wodim -scanbus'. For possible transport specifiers try 'wodim dev=help'. For IDE/ATAPI devices configuration, see the file README.ATAPI.setup from the wodim documentation. ............ second, after *unmounting* the device wodim read it as follows: ...................... 103-32-sb1:/home/plain # umount /dev/sr0 103-32-sb1:/home/plain # wodim -prcap -dev=/dev/sr0 Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 3 Capabilities : Vendor_info : 'ATAPI ' Identification : 'DVD DD 8X16X8X16' Revision : 'GSJB' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Drive capabilities, per MMC-3 page 2A: Does read CD-R media Does write CD-R media Does read CD-RW media Does write CD-RW media Does read DVD-ROM media Does read DVD-R media Does write DVD-R media Does not read DVD-RAM media Does not write DVD-RAM media Does support test writing Does read Mode 2 Form 1 blocks Does read Mode 2 Form 2 blocks Does read digital audio blocks Does restart non-streamed digital audio reads accurately Does support Buffer-Underrun-Free recording Does read multi-session CDs Does read fixed-packet CD media using Method 2 Does not read CD bar code Does read R-W subcode information Does not return R-W subcode de-interleaved and error-corrected Does read raw P-W subcode data from lead in Does return CD media catalog number Does return CD ISRC information Does not support C2 error pointers Does not deliver composite A/V data Does play audio CDs Number of volume control levels: 2 Does not support individual volume control setting for each channel Does not support independent mute setting for each channel Does not support digital output on port 1 Does support digital output on port 2 Does not send digital data LSB-first Does not set LRCK high for left-channel data Does not have valid data on falling edge of clock Length of data in BCLKs: 32 Loading mechanism type: tray Does support ejection of CD via START/STOP command Does not lock media on power up via prevent jumper Does allow media to be locked in the drive via PREVENT/ALLOW command Is not currently in a media-locked state Does not support changing side of disk Does not have load-empty-slot-in-changer feature Does not support Individual Disk Present feature Maximum read speed: 16620 kB/s (CD 94x, DVD 12x) Current read speed: 16620 kB/s (CD 94x, DVD 12x) Maximum write speed: 3324 kB/s (CD 18x, DVD 2x) Current write speed: 3324 kB/s (CD 18x, DVD 2x) Rotational control selected: CLV/PCAV Buffer size in KB: 2048 Copy management revision supported: 1 Number of supported write speeds: 1 Write speed # 0: 3324 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 18x, DVD 2x) .......................................................................

and

wodim -scanbus

continuing on, with the device still unmounted, scanbus saiz: .............. 103-32-sb1:/home/plain # wodim -scanbus scsibus14: 14,0,0 1400) 'ATAPI ' 'DVD DD 8X16X8X16' 'GSJB' Removable CD-ROM 14,1,0 1401) * 14,2,0 1402) * 14,3,0 1403) * 14,4,0 1404) * 14,5,0 1405) * 14,6,0 1406) * 14,7,0 1407) * ....................... BUT, if i unplug and plug the device back in: ......................... 103-32-sb1:/home/plain # wodim -scanbus wodim: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver! For possible targets try 'wodim --devices' or 'wodim -scanbus'. For possible transport specifiers try 'wodim dev=help'. For IDE/ATAPI devices configuration, see the file README.ATAPI.setup from the wodim documentation. ............................ That response does not depend on the selection on the kde deamon popup, it stays so until the device is unmounted, physically or with "umount".

as well as

hwinfo --cdrom

the hardware info does not depend on the state of mounting and is as follows: ................. 103-32-sb1:/home/plain # hwinfo --cdrom 27: SCSI e00.0: 10602 CD-ROM (DVD) [Created at block.237] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_ATAPI_DVD_DD_8X16X8X16_DEF1064A6FC1_0_0 Unique ID: 7qYG.GZc3Y91k6v4 Parent ID: 5YuN.Yh2InNLGqf6 SysFS ID: /block/sr0 SysFS BusID: 14:0:0:0 SysFS Device Link: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb8/8-2/8-2:1.0/host14/target14:0:0/14:0:0:0 Hardware Class: cdrom Model: "ATAPI DVD DD 8X16X8X16" Vendor: usb 0x04b4 "ATAPI" Device: usb 0x6830 "DVD DD 8X16X8X16" Revision: "GSJB" Serial ID: "DEF1064A6FC1" Driver: "usb-storage", "sr" Driver Modules: "usb_storage" Device File: /dev/sr0 (/dev/sg2) Device Files: /dev/sr0, /dev/scd0, /dev/disk/by-id/usb-ATAPI_DVD_DD_8X16X8X16_DEF1064A6FC1-0:0, /dev/disk/by-path/pci-0000:00:1d.7-usb-0:2:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0, /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrw, /dev/dvd, /dev/dvdrw Device Number: block 11:0 (char 21:2) Features: CD-R, CD-RW, DVD, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+DL, Hotpluggable Speed: 480 Mbps Module Alias: "usb:v04B4p6830d0240dc00dsc00dp00ic08isc06ip50" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: usb_storage is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe usb_storage" Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #14 (USB Controller) Drive Speed: 94 Volume ID: "SU1100.001" Application: "openSUSE-DVD-11.0#0" Publisher: "Novell, Inc." Preparer: "CD-Team, http://bugs.opensuse.org/" Creation date: "2008061017001100" El Torito info: platform 0, bootable Boot Catalog: at sector 0x0225 Id String: "Novell, Inc." Media: none starting at sector 0x0226 Load: 2048 bytes ...................

as root

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again, thanks for the help. and, fyi, my 19 year old super geek son (alas, windoze only, Lord, where id i go wrong?) has a hard time using the genuine ATT rotary dial phone by my desk, he always walks to the kitchen to dial out:)))) dimitris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-07-12 at 08:12 -1000, kanenas@hawaii.rr.com wrote:

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try...

wodim -prcap -dev=<device name>

thanks, much appreciate the constructive help. Please help finish this. below are the outputs of your suggestions. The strange thing is that wodim only works when the dvd is unmounted. this must be some hal mini-hell mounting snafu that should be resolvable by knowledgeable people!

first, tried -prcap after plugging dvd in and closing the kde "what shall i do with the new dev" popup: ...................... 103-32-sb1:/home/plain # wodim -prcap -dev=/dev/sr0 Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... giving up. WARNING: /dev/sr0 seems to be mounted! wodim: Device or resource busy. Cannot open SCSI driver! For possible targets try 'wodim --devices' or 'wodim -scanbus'. For possible transport specifiers try 'wodim dev=help'. For IDE/ATAPI devices configuration, see the file README.ATAPI.setup from the wodim documentation. ............ second, after *unmounting* the device wodim read it as follows:

Ok, so what you have to do is to tell your desktop to do NOTHING when you insert a DVD via USB. Maybe you have to disable all actions for insert USB disks. I don't remember how to do that in KDE; somebody else might. If that is impossible, you might have more luck using gnome, or one of the other desktops that do not automate mounting (you can call k3b from there). You can manually umount the device, but as soon as you start burning it will detect that there is a dvd that could perhaps be mounted, try to mount it, and crash! k3b burning session goes to hell. Its just an hypothesis. Try to open a bugzilla with Novell instead, with 11.0 if possible. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIedjvtTMYHG2NR9URAmP9AJ48wpYUagS9S/dD9CkO09LkLmFixACggmBo qvyUiOm333Pg2droFhbWGCw= =6zuO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 03:12:57PM -0400, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

I tried to look at your bugreport but it seems I have been banned from even looking at bugs...

"Access Denied You are not authorized to access bug #165712.

Please press Back and try again."

No, its just one the old bugs not accessible to the community. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-07-12 at 21:23 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 09:15:10PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 03:12:57PM -0400, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

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I tried to look at your bugreport but it seems I have been banned from even looking at bugs...

"Access Denied You are not authorized to access bug #165712.

Please press Back and try again."

No, its just one the old bugs not accessible to the community.

And its not at all SUSE related, its about ZLM. Perhaps the number is the wrong one.

Hey, notice that it is the KDE Bugzilla, not the NOvell Bugzilla! The correct link is: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165712 - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIeddftTMYHG2NR9URAuqeAKCQGDJswiFzYuNow+8DYVZg1SNl0ACdEhp8 qU8YWa0ii7m+Ie+VLWSHoiA= =vpqI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 12 July 2008 09:15:10 am Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 03:12:57PM -0400, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

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I tried to look at your bugreport but it seems I have been banned from even looking at bugs...

"Access Denied You are not authorized to access bug #165712.

Please press Back and try again."

No, its just one the old bugs not accessible to the community.

Ciao, Marcus

Since this an old one, what is to be done in order to not have this problem? This "old" bug crept on my 64 bit suse in ....2008 as best as i can determine. Yesterday I also verified that the "old" bug exists in 32 bit 10.3 and also in the brave brand spanking (b)new 11.0, 64 bit version!!!!! can't be sure it is k3b even though nerolinux has *no* problems with precisely the same setup, i can run it right after I close k3b, yet the error messages point toward some sort of handshake error between two or more pieces of software. I was led to #165712 thru yet one more google search just yesterday. And I accessed it and pasted the link straight from the ffox url entry, only <ctr>l-c and <ctrl> -v were used. There I saw the same error message that appeared on my screen when I called k3b from a console window, after a dvd-rw was inserted in the drive and plugged to a front usb port. the error message reads: ......................... plain@103-32-sb1:~> k3b plain@103-32-sb1:~> (K3bDevice::HalConnection) initializing HAL >= 0.5 Mapping udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_ATAPI_DVD_DD_8X16X8X16_D EF1064A6FC1_0_0 to device /dev/sr0 /dev/sr0 resolved to /dev/sr0 /dev/sr0 is block device (0) /dev/sr0 seems to be cdrom bus: 11, id: 0, lun: 0 (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: init() (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0 feature: CD Mastering (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0 feature: CD Track At Once (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0 feature: DVD Read (MMC5) (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0 feature: DVD+R (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0 feature: DVD+RW (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0 feature: DVD+R Double Layer (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0 feature: DVD-R/-RW Write (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0 feature: Rigid Restricted Overwrite (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0 feature: Layer Jump Recording (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: dataLen: 60 (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: checking for TAO (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: checking for SAO (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: checking for SAO_R96P (K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) failed: command: MODE SELECT (55) errorcode: 70 sense key: ILLEGAL REQUEST (5) asc: 26 ascq: 0 (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: checking for SAO_R96R (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: checking for RAW_R16 (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: checking for RAW_R96P (K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) failed: command: MODE SELECT (55) errorcode: 70 sense key: ILLEGAL REQUEST (5) asc: 26 ascq: 0 (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: checking for RAW_R96R (K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) failed: command: GET PERFORMANCE (ac) errorcode: 0 sense key: NO SENSE (2) asc: 0 ascq: 0 (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: GET PERFORMANCE length det failed. (K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) failed: command: MODE SENSE (5a) errorcode: 0 sense key: NO SENSE (2) asc: 0 ascq: 0 (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: MODE SENSE length det failed. (K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) failed: command: MODE SENSE (5a) errorcode: 0 sense key: NO SENSE (2) asc: 0 ascq: 0 (K3bDevice::Device) /dev/sr0: MODE SENSE with real length 65535 failed. (K3bDevice::Device) could not open device /dev/sr0 for reading (No such device or address) Error while retrieving capabilities. Could not initialize device /dev/sr0 Could not resolve /dev/hdb /dev/hdb resolved to /dev/hdb (K3bDevice::Device) could not open device /dev/hdb for reading (No such file or directory) could not open device /dev/hdb (No such file or directory) /dev/sr0 resolved to /dev/sr0 (K3bDevice::Device) could not open device /dev/sr0 for reading (No such device or address) could not open device /dev/sr0 (No such device or address) Devices: ------------------------------ removing udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b4_6830_DEF1064A6FC1_if0_s csi_host_scsi_device_lun0_scsi_generic removing udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_label_SU1100_001 removing udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b4_6830_DEF1064A6FC1_if0_s csi_host_scsi_device_lun0 removing udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b4_6830_DEF1064A6FC1_if0_s csi_host removing udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b4_6830_DEF1064A6FC1_if0 removing udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b4_6830_DEF1064A6FC1 removing udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_ATAPI_DVD_DD_8X16X8X16_ DEF1064A6FC1_0_0 Unmapping udi /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_ATAPI_DVD_DD_8X16X8X16 _DEF1064A6FC1_0_0 from device /dev/sr0 ............................. note: had to <ctrl> - c to get to a new prompt in the window. again, any info on resolving this would be appreciated. dimitris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 13 July 2008 12:39:51 am G T Smith wrote:

I would point the finger at the cause of the result of your scanbus results. For some reason the SCSI or USB is loosing contact with the device and this suggests this is *not* a KDE issue but more likely a kernel or driver issue if swapping cable or cleaning does not help...

Don't know if you noticed that nerolinux *just works* on the same setup, after k3b fails all i have to do is unplug and reinsert the the usb connector or recycle power on the external drive! Also, I noticed that the scsi bus number floats around, the dvd is seen on bus 14, other times on 13, other times on 11. since the physical port i use is the same and no other usb devices are added or removed, shouldn't the bus number stay the same? d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org