[opensuse] autoinstalled package
Hi, there is something in yast's package management module that confuses me. I have uninstalled a certain package (using command line rpm), but every time I open package management, it tries to come back (i.e. it is marked as autoinstall). I have made sure not to use anything like --force when removing the package, so dependencies should be satisfied. I've also checked the "Show solver information" menu item, with "show recommended packages" on, but to no avail. I guess I could taboo the package, but I would still like to know why it tries to come back. Thanks, A. -- Ansgar Esztermann DV-Systemadministration Max-Planck-Institut für biophysikalische Chemie, Abteilung 105 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2010-09-27 at 11:36 +0200, Esztermann, Ansgar wrote:
there is something in yast's package management module that confuses me. I have uninstalled a certain package (using command line rpm), but every time I open package management, it tries to come back (i.e. it is marked as autoinstall). I have made sure not to use anything like --force when removing the package, so dependencies should be satisfied. I've also checked the "Show solver information" menu item, with "show recommended packages" on, but to no avail. I guess I could taboo the package, but I would still like to know why it tries to come back.
Which one? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkygbx4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V/pgCfcF3fGaySLV8gVqFBkgsejzGw LywAnRr/kyyOutMEGy16K0bCk7wIQuWH =fAxU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:16 , Carlos E. R. wrote:
Which one?
tracker (plus dependencies). A. -- Ansgar Esztermann DV-Systemadministration Max-Planck-Institut für biophysikalische Chemie, Abteilung 105 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 09/27/2010 11:36 AM, Esztermann, Ansgar wrote:
Hi,
there is something in yast's package management module that confuses me. I have uninstalled a certain package (using command line rpm), but every time I open package management, it tries to come back (i.e. it is marked as autoinstall).
Since you removed it with rpm, zypp (yast/zypper) has no way to know that the package is not wanted. If you remove it with yast or zypper, the package will be added to /var/lib/zypp/SoftLocks and won't get autoinstalled anymore.
I have made sure not to use anything like --force when removing the package, so dependencies should be satisfied. I've also checked the "Show solver information" menu item, with "show recommended packages" on, but to no avail. I guess I could taboo the package, but I would still like to know why it tries to come back.
no need to do that -- cheers, jano Ján Kupec YaST team ---------------------------------------------------------(PGP)--- Key ID: 637EE901 Fingerprint: 93B9 C79B 2D20 51C3 800B E09B 8048 46A6 637E E901 ---------------------------------------------------------(IRC)--- Server: irc.freenode.net Nick: jniq Channels: #zypp #yast #suse #susecz ---------------------------------------------------------(EOF)---
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2010-09-27 at 12:25 +0200, Jano Kupec wrote:
On 09/27/2010 11:36 AM, Esztermann, Ansgar wrote:
Hi,
there is something in yast's package management module that confuses me. I have uninstalled a certain package (using command line rpm), but every time I open package management, it tries to come back (i.e. it is marked as autoinstall).
Since you removed it with rpm, zypp (yast/zypper) has no way to know that the package is not wanted. If you remove it with yast or zypper, the package will be added to /var/lib/zypp/SoftLocks and won't get autoinstalled anymore.
I have made sure not to use anything like --force when removing the package, so dependencies should be satisfied. I've also checked the "Show solver information" menu item, with "show recommended packages" on, but to no avail. I guess I could taboo the package, but I would still like to know why it tries to come back.
no need to do that
Interesting. Nice feature. But... The other day I was installing printers with Yast. I saw an option to remove autodetection of hot plugged printers, and remove the packages that provide that feature. Wonderfull! I did so. Yast now wants to install it back. I had to taboo the package. Is that a bug? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkygc18ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XGJQCdFhnjLoUG1DrtwhxnYSxXINqm /GQAn2NCiIjM0myqnJQObL7JuyA9GiUQ =wOQb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 9/27/2010 3:35 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The other day I was installing printers with Yast. I saw an option to remove autodetection of hot plugged printers, and remove the packages that provide that feature. Wonderfull! I did so.
Yast now wants to install it back. I had to taboo the package.
Is that a bug?
Maybe the system just couldn't believe anyone would remove that. ;-) -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello, On Sep 27 12:35 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Monday, 2010-09-27 at 12:25 +0200, Jano Kupec wrote:
On 09/27/2010 11:36 AM, Esztermann, Ansgar wrote:
there is something in yast's package management module that confuses me. I have uninstalled a certain package (using command line rpm), but every time I open package management, it tries to come back (i.e. it is marked as autoinstall).
Since you removed it with rpm, zypp (yast/zypper) has no way to know that the package is not wanted. If you remove it with yast or zypper, the package will be added to /var/lib/zypp/SoftLocks and won't get autoinstalled anymore.
I have made sure not to use anything like --force when removing the package, so dependencies should be satisfied. I've also checked the "Show solver information" menu item, with "show recommended packages" on, but to no avail. I guess I could taboo the package, but I would still like to know why it tries to come back.
no need to do that
Interesting. Nice feature.
But...
The other day I was installing printers with Yast. I saw an option to remove autodetection of hot plugged printers, and remove the packages that provide that feature. Wonderfull! I did so.
Yast now wants to install it back. I had to taboo the package.
Is that a bug?
Of course this is never ever a bug at all but a feature ;-) Seriously: Besides the usual RPM hard requirements there are kind of weaker package install recommendations. I guess some other installed package (no idea which one) recommends that the particular package should be installed too. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2010-09-28 at 11:37 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
On Sep 27 12:35 Carlos E. R. wrote:
The other day I was installing printers with Yast. I saw an option to remove autodetection of hot plugged printers, and remove the packages that provide that feature. Wonderfull! I did so.
Yast now wants to install it back. I had to taboo the package.
Is that a bug?
Of course this is never ever a bug at all but a feature ;-)
X-)
Seriously: Besides the usual RPM hard requirements there are kind of weaker package install recommendations. I guess some other installed package (no idea which one) recommends that the particular package should be installed too.
How could I know which one is pulling? :-? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkyh0kEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Xq4gCfZqmS2RcwbB9+8TpcP/8dpnyM fIoAn209sdc3Or1zfje8/9cAnzfHlrK1 =T4ok -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, 2010-09-28 at 11:37 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote:
Seriously: Besides the usual RPM hard requirements there are kind of weaker package install recommendations. I guess some other installed package (no idea which one) recommends that the particular package should be installed too.
On 09/28/2010 01:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
How could I know which one is pulling? :-?
Not for the this case but here are two things I tend to do as I do not use Yast nowadays zypper in -D YourPackage zypper in -D --no-recommends YourPackage -D is the dry-run so nothing is going to be installed but gives an idea what the package will try to trigger Or setting in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf ## ## Whether required packages are installed ONLY ## So recommended packages, language packages and packages which depend ## on hardware (modalias) will not be regarded. ## ## Valid values: boolean ## Default value: false ## solver.onlyRequires = true Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 27, 2010, at 12:25 , Jano Kupec wrote:
Since you removed it with rpm, zypp (yast/zypper) has no way to know that the package is not wanted. If you remove it with yast or zypper, the package will be added to /var/lib/zypp/SoftLocks and won't get autoinstalled anymore.
OK, thanks. A. -- Ansgar Esztermann DV-Systemadministration Max-Planck-Institut für biophysikalische Chemie, Abteilung 105 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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