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Mark Hounschell

14 Jul 2015 14 Jul '15

14:43

It seems like a never ending battle with this. Every time I turn around this happens. Flash was just updated to 11.2.202.481 on 07/04/15. How does one MAKE Firefox ignore this and just work as normal, using whatever Flash revision is installed. It will get updated when there is an update. My wife has been using Linux over Winblows since SuSE-11.4 but she is ready to go back because of this sort of BS. Thanks Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Dylan

14 Jul 14 Jul

15:46

On 14/07/15 15:43, Mark Hounschell wrote:

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It seems like a never ending battle with this. Every time I turn around this happens. Flash was just updated to 11.2.202.481 on 07/04/15. How does one MAKE Firefox ignore this and just work as normal, using whatever Flash revision is installed. It will get updated when there is an update.

My wife has been using Linux over Winblows since SuSE-11.4 but she is ready to go back because of this sort of BS.

If you want a resolution to this 'BS' then you need to take it to Mozilla and Adobe - returning to Windows will make no difference: Firefox is blocking ALL flash on ALL platforms, so far as I can tell. There is an option presented each time it blocks to allow the content. But ultimately IMHO Flash has had its day and websites should get behind newer more secure technologies. £0.02

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Thanks Mark

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Greg Freemyer

16:13

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Dylan wrote:

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On 14/07/15 15:43, Mark Hounschell wrote:

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It seems like a never ending battle with this. Every time I turn around this happens. Flash was just updated to 11.2.202.481 on 07/04/15. How does one MAKE Firefox ignore this and just work as normal, using whatever Flash revision is installed. It will get updated when there is an update.

My wife has been using Linux over Winblows since SuSE-11.4 but she is ready to go back because of this sort of BS.

If you want a resolution to this 'BS' then you need to take it to Mozilla and Adobe - returning to Windows will make no difference: Firefox is blocking ALL flash on ALL platforms, so far as I can tell.

Agreed. I run Windows with Firefox on one laptop. I was forced to manually update flash on it 2 or 3 times recently. There may be an auto-updater for Windows, but it is not keeping flash current enough for Firefox. Chrome on Windows has not had the same problem as far as I know, I gather the same is true on openSUSE. Run Chrome if you want flash - right? (I mostly SSH/command line things in openSUSE, so I can't speak to openSUSE/flash issues.) Greg -- Greg Freemyer www.IntelligentAvatar.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Chris Murphy

16:39

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Mark Hounschell wrote:

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It seems like a never ending battle with this. Every time I turn around this happens. Flash was just updated to 11.2.202.481 on 07/04/15. How does one MAKE Firefox ignore this and just work as normal, using whatever Flash revision is installed. It will get updated when there is an update.

My wife has been using Linux over Winblows since SuSE-11.4 but she is ready to go back because of this sort of BS.

a. Firefox currently blocks it on all platforms, as of last night. http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/14/technology/flash-firefox-facebook/index.html b. Adobe abandoned Flash on Linux years ago. It's getting only the most significant security updates. But version 11 is significantly far behind 18. Adobe has basically said, use Chrome on Linux, which has the current version integrated. c. Flash is about to die. It's not worth going back to Windows to save something everyone is desperately trying to treat like the booger than can't be flicked off. -- Chris Murphy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

16:54

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-14 18:39, Chris Murphy wrote:

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a. Firefox currently blocks it on all platforms, as of last night. http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/14/technology/flash-firefox-facebook/index.html

Not

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here, I just tried: http://www.atresplayer.com/directos/television/lasexta/ http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/los-misterios-de-laura/ http://www.mitele.es/directo/cuatro/ Those are the major TV online (and on air) providers in my country. All use Flash, and it works with no complain from FF. Fibre provider Movistar uses Silverlight , Ono I don't know (I don't have a contract to test). I have Flash 11,2,202,481, just tried on http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

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c. Flash is about to die.

I don't see any symptom of that... :-( That the plugin will cease to work in FF (in Linux), so that we have to use Chrome instead, that's possible, yes. That web pages stop using Flash, I don't see it. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWlPqkACgkQja8UbcUWM1y3YgD/bGT1z5M811DmHM6W7y0zL3p+ 1+SBXrbAs3xQV3RLxw4A/jjhQdtWX1xS2CyTX13seOV96BBvXN3Iuxde9C9ERl1e =Errn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Chris Murphy

17:41

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2015-07-14 18:39, Chris Murphy wrote:

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a. Firefox currently blocks it on all platforms, as of last night. http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/14/technology/flash-firefox-facebook/index.html

Not

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here, I just tried:

http://www.atresplayer.com/directos/television/lasexta/ http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/los-misterios-de-laura/ http://www.mitele.es/directo/cuatro/

http://gizmodo.com/firefox-now-blocks-flash-by-default-1717664482 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p946

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Those are the major TV online (and on air) providers in my country. All use Flash, and it works with no complain from FF. Fibre provider Movistar uses Silverlight , Ono I don't know (I don't have a contract to test).

I have Flash 11,2,202,481, just tried on http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

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c. Flash is about to die.

I don't see any symptom of that... :-(

That the plugin will cease to work in FF (in Linux), so that we have to use Chrome instead, that's possible, yes. That web pages stop using Flash, I don't see it.

There may be a distinction between ask to activate and always activate. I'm not sure of the mechanism for Flash being disabled in FireFox, it is not working right now for me. It's being widely reported as disabled by Firefox. -- Chris Murphy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

17:58

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-07-14 19:41, Chris Murphy wrote:

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There may be a distinction between ask to activate and always activate. I'm not sure of the mechanism for Flash being disabled in FireFox, it is not working right now for me. It's being widely reported as disabled by Firefox.

I have not restarted FF recently, might be that. Well, one day. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlWlTbMACgkQja8UbcUWM1ww1wD/SjkGpGKeOlP5mSrz72L7c47y EGSa21gcRuC/xz5qSi0A/0zi9y6/u4cWtz+VNvrwYsk4wN1TymoIiqqAIUBb+eO9 =dTp7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

15 Jul 15 Jul

07:54

On 15/07/15 00:43, Mark Hounschell wrote:

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It seems like a never ending battle with this. Every time I turn around this happens. Flash was just updated to 11.2.202.481 on 07/04/15. How does one MAKE Firefox ignore this and just work as normal, using whatever Flash revision is installed. It will get updated when there is an update.

My wife has been using Linux over Winblows since SuSE-11.4 but she is ready to go back because of this sort of BS.

She is welcome to go back to Windows if she so desires. But she will find the same "BS" even there - see my post earlier today. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.6 & kernel 4.1.1-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Aaron Digulla

10:32

Am 14.07.2015 um 16:43 schrieb Mark Hounschell:

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It seems like a never ending battle with this. Every time I turn around this happens. Flash was just updated to 11.2.202.481 on 07/04/15. How does one MAKE Firefox ignore this and just work as normal, using whatever Flash revision is installed. It will get updated when there is an update.

There are several solutions: 1. Don't install security updatesfor your browser. Use an old version of Firefox, exposing yourself to various threats. "I have nothing to hide" doesn't work because there are automated search engines on the Internet which scan your computer looking for vulnerabilities and then crack it. So this means your computer will eventually be owned by someone else. Works but not recommended. 2. Keep yourself safe. Use Firefox for normal browsing, install Chrome when you have an outdated web site which still requires Flash. Chrome comes with Flash bundled on all platforms. You get a new version of Chrome every few weeks, with the latest security fixes (including Flash which still has a ton of them left). Note: You should also install AdBlock or AdBlock plus on all your browsers and disable Flash by default. Flash is a huge security risk even in 2015; only enable Flash for sites that you can probably trust. Note that there are a bunch of sites which offer TV over the Internet which require Flash for the sole reason that they can get control over your computer. So only use official TV sites, not shady ones. Make sure you enable filtering of malicious web sites. This doesn't send your browsing history to Google; instead the browser downloads a list of bad URLs and uses that. Regards, -- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla a.k.a. Philmann Dark "It's not the universe that's limited, it's our imagination. Follow me and I'll show you something beyond the limits." http://blog.pdark.de/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Sam M.

16 Jul 16 Jul

13:17

The Flash ban for FF only lasted two days, according to this article: http://www.rt.com/usa/273925-firefox-blocks-adobe-flash/ I think this clears up any confusion, that is, if the article is correct. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Aaron Digulla wrote:

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Am 14.07.2015 um 16:43 schrieb Mark Hounschell:

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It seems like a never ending battle with this. Every time I turn around this happens. Flash was just updated to 11.2.202.481 on 07/04/15. How does one MAKE Firefox ignore this and just work as normal, using whatever Flash revision is installed. It will get updated when there is an update.

There are several solutions:

1. Don't install security updatesfor your browser. Use an old version of Firefox, exposing yourself to various threats. "I have nothing to hide" doesn't work because there are automated search engines on the Internet which scan your computer looking for vulnerabilities and then crack it. So this means your computer will eventually be owned by someone else. Works but not recommended.

2. Keep yourself safe. Use Firefox for normal browsing, install Chrome when you have an outdated web site which still requires Flash.

Chrome comes with Flash bundled on all platforms. You get a new version of Chrome every few weeks, with the latest security fixes (including Flash which still has a ton of them left).

Note: You should also install AdBlock or AdBlock plus on all your browsers and disable Flash by default. Flash is a huge security risk even in 2015; only enable Flash for sites that you can probably trust. Note that there are a bunch of sites which offer TV over the Internet which require Flash for the sole reason that they can get control over your computer. So only use official TV sites, not shady ones.

Make sure you enable filtering of malicious web sites. This doesn't send your browsing history to Google; instead the browser downloads a list of bad URLs and uses that.

Regards,

-- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla a.k.a. Philmann Dark "It's not the universe that's limited, it's our imagination. Follow me and I'll show you something beyond the limits." http://blog.pdark.de/

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Marcus Meissner

17 Jul 17 Jul

08:03

Hi, For the old Flash Player, we only just now released the updated flash-player. Ciao, Marcus On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 06:17:25AM -0700, Sam M. wrote:

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The Flash ban for FF only lasted two days, according to this article:

http://www.rt.com/usa/273925-firefox-blocks-adobe-flash/

I think this clears up any confusion, that is, if the article is correct.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Aaron Digulla wrote:

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Am 14.07.2015 um 16:43 schrieb Mark Hounschell:

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It seems like a never ending battle with this. Every time I turn around this happens. Flash was just updated to 11.2.202.481 on 07/04/15. How does one MAKE Firefox ignore this and just work as normal, using whatever Flash revision is installed. It will get updated when there is an update.

There are several solutions:

1. Don't install security updatesfor your browser. Use an old version of Firefox, exposing yourself to various threats. "I have nothing to hide" doesn't work because there are automated search engines on the Internet which scan your computer looking for vulnerabilities and then crack it. So this means your computer will eventually be owned by someone else. Works but not recommended.

2. Keep yourself safe. Use Firefox for normal browsing, install Chrome when you have an outdated web site which still requires Flash.

Chrome comes with Flash bundled on all platforms. You get a new version of Chrome every few weeks, with the latest security fixes (including Flash which still has a ton of them left).

Note: You should also install AdBlock or AdBlock plus on all your browsers and disable Flash by default. Flash is a huge security risk even in 2015; only enable Flash for sites that you can probably trust. Note that there are a bunch of sites which offer TV over the Internet which require Flash for the sole reason that they can get control over your computer. So only use official TV sites, not shady ones.

Make sure you enable filtering of malicious web sites. This doesn't send your browsing history to Google; instead the browser downloads a list of bad URLs and uses that.

Regards,

-- Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla a.k.a. Philmann Dark "It's not the universe that's limited, it's our imagination. Follow me and I'll show you something beyond the limits." http://blog.pdark.de/

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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