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Andras Simon

6 Sep 2012 6 Sep '12

00:23

Today I ran zypper up on 12.1 and it seemed to want to upgrade the distribution; at least it said [...] The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE The following packages are going to change architecture: branding-openSUSE i586 -> noarch gsettings-desktop-schemas noarch -> i586 perl-Config-Crontab i586 -> noarch perl-Parse-RecDescent noarch -> i586 xorg-x11 i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-input i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-video i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-util-devel i586 -> noarch 888 packages to upgrade, 311 new, 46 to remove, 8 to change arch. [...] I guess it has something to do with the release of 12.2. Is it necessary to upgrade? Is this a safe way to do it? Thanks, Andras -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Greg Freemyer

6 Sep 6 Sep

02:48

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Andras Simon wrote:

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Today I ran zypper up on 12.1 and it seemed to want to upgrade the distribution; at least it said

[...] The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE

The following packages are going to change architecture: branding-openSUSE i586 -> noarch gsettings-desktop-schemas noarch -> i586 perl-Config-Crontab i586 -> noarch perl-Parse-RecDescent noarch -> i586 xorg-x11 i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-input i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-video i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-util-devel i586 -> noarch

888 packages to upgrade, 311 new, 46 to remove, 8 to change arch. [...]

I guess it has something to do with the release of 12.2. Is it necessary to upgrade? Is this a safe way to do it?

I'm guessing you have your repos set to point to "current" instead of at a specific version. (Look at the content of text files in /etc/zypp/repos.d) Using "current" is fine, but unusual unless you are running tumbleweed. Are you a tumbleweed user? If so, tumbleweed uses the "current" repos as pointers to the latest released version and what you see is expected. If you aren't a tumbleweed user, then it is unusual that you are using the "current" repos, but it is your choice and upgrading your packages via zypper up should be fine, but the only tested way is to disable your repos other than OSS, OSS-update, NON-OSS, and NON-OSS-update and run "zypper dup". http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Andras Simon

09:42

2012/9/6, Greg Freemyer :

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On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Andras Simon wrote:

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Today I ran zypper up on 12.1 and it seemed to want to upgrade the distribution; at least it said

[...] The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE

The following packages are going to change architecture: branding-openSUSE i586 -> noarch gsettings-desktop-schemas noarch -> i586 perl-Config-Crontab i586 -> noarch perl-Parse-RecDescent noarch -> i586 xorg-x11 i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-input i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-video i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-util-devel i586 -> noarch

888 packages to upgrade, 311 new, 46 to remove, 8 to change arch. [...]

I guess it has something to do with the release of 12.2. Is it necessary to upgrade? Is this a safe way to do it?

I'm guessing you have your repos set to point to "current" instead of at a specific version. (Look at the content of text files in /etc/zypp/repos.d)

All of them has 12.1 in the baseurl, except for openSUSE-12.1-12.1-1.4.repo, with baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-stable/repo/oss/ Can this be the culprit?

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Using "current" is fine, but unusual unless you are running tumbleweed.

Are you a tumbleweed user?

No - or not intentionally/knowingly... Thanks, Andras -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

10:52

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-09-06 11:42, Andras Simon wrote:

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2012/9/6, Greg Freemyer <>:

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All of them has 12.1 in the baseurl, except for openSUSE-12.1-12.1-1.4.repo, with baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-stable/repo/oss/

Can this be the culprit?

Could be. There is an announcement in the KDE mail list: ?[opensuse-kde] KDE:Distro:Stable is now openSUSE 12? The wording is similar (stable). - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlBIgGsACgkQja8UbcUWM1xQ7AD/e2V4nvt3N7TSvHH9NJ59JxSH 74SeGOWMMy62IMCYoa4BAITEK/UQEFINqjgaSn2Tu6NbX3RiN/qB3mlYS87LNvda =lvEK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Will Stephenson

11:12

On Thursday 06 Sep 2012 12:52:27 Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2012-09-06 11:42, Andras Simon wrote:

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2012/9/6, Greg Freemyer <>:

All of them has 12.1 in the baseurl, except for openSUSE-12.1-12.1-1.4.repo, with baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-stable/repo/os s/

Can this be the culprit?

Could be. There is an announcement in the KDE mail list: ?[opensuse-kde] KDE:Distro:Stable is now openSUSE 12?

The wording is similar (stable).

No, KDE:Distro:Stable has nothing to do with this. The mail just meant that KDE:Distro:Stable is the maintenance project for 12.2's KDE packages now. -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

11:48

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-09-06 13:12, Will Stephenson wrote:

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No, KDE:Distro:Stable has nothing to do with this. The mail just meant that KDE:Distro:Stable is the maintenance project for 12.2's KDE packages now.

I know that, I'm just pointing to the similar word "stable" that may mean the last stable version of the oss repo, which would then be 12.2 and cause the OP problem. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlBIjYsACgkQja8UbcUWM1yFQQD/Uy2wj4QgEfoZJrFP6nmfseRM hIQu4TSJsCsC3DMmGEoA/jAuUDYH71/DOTaKIlgwlyCLUTIicAlLcO4+sRbzVrad =CExg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

12:53

On 06/09/12 10:23, Andras Simon wrote:

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Today I ran zypper up on 12.1 and it seemed to want to upgrade the distribution; at least it said

[...] The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE

The following packages are going to change architecture: branding-openSUSE i586 -> noarch gsettings-desktop-schemas noarch -> i586 perl-Config-Crontab i586 -> noarch perl-Parse-RecDescent noarch -> i586 xorg-x11 i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-input i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-video i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-util-devel i586 -> noarch

888 packages to upgrade, 311 new, 46 to remove, 8 to change arch. [...]

I guess it has something to do with the release of 12.2. Is it necessary to upgrade? Is this a safe way to do it?

Thanks, Andras

Are you sure that you typed in "zypper up" and not "zypper dup"? Ah! Wait a minute..... I wonder, with that number of files to install, if KDE 4.8.4 is being upgraded to KDE 4.9. What shows up when you type zypper up - what comes up in the list of files to be updated/upgraded? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.0 & kernel 3.5.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Andras Simon

10:00

2012/9/6, Basil Chupin :

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On 06/09/12 10:23, Andras Simon wrote:

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Today I ran zypper up on 12.1 and it seemed to want to upgrade the distribution; at least it said

[...] The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE

The following packages are going to change architecture: branding-openSUSE i586 -> noarch gsettings-desktop-schemas noarch -> i586 perl-Config-Crontab i586 -> noarch perl-Parse-RecDescent noarch -> i586 xorg-x11 i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-input i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-video i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-util-devel i586 -> noarch

888 packages to upgrade, 311 new, 46 to remove, 8 to change arch. [...]

I guess it has something to do with the release of 12.2. Is it necessary to upgrade? Is this a safe way to do it?

Thanks, Andras

Are you sure that you typed in "zypper up" and not "zypper dup"?

Absolutely!

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Ah! Wait a minute..... I wonder, with that number of files to install, if KDE 4.8.4 is being upgraded to KDE 4.9.

I don't think so. Apart from not having KDE, there are lots of packages waiting to be updated that have probably nothing to do with KDE (see below). Besides, there's this message: The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE So I think it's a safe bet that more than KDE is involved...

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What shows up when you type zypper up - what comes up in the list of files to be updated/upgraded?

It's a very long list: ConsoleKit ConsoleKit-x11 DirectFB DirectFB-Mesa ImageMagick OpenPrintingPPDs OpenPrintingPPDs-ghostscript OpenPrintingPPDs-hpijs OpenPrintingPPDs-postscript PackageKit PackageKit-branding-openSUSE PackageKit-browser-plugin PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin PackageKit-gtk3-module SuSEfirewall2 a2ps aaa_base aaa_base-extras acl acpica acpid alsa alsa-devel alsa-oss alsa-plugins alsa-utils apel arts at attr audiofile augeas-lenses autofs autoyast2-installation bash bash-doc bc bind-libs bind-utils binutils bootcycle bootsplash-branding-openSUSE branding-openSUSE bridge-utils bundle-lang-common-en bundle-lang-gnome-en bundle-lang-gnome-extras-en bzip2 ca-certificates ca-certificates-mozilla cantarell-fonts checkmedia cifs-utils clisp command-not-found coreutils cpio cpp cracklib cracklib-dict-full crda cron cronie cryptsetup ctags cups cups-client cups-libs cups-pk-helper curl cvs cvsps cyrus-sasl cyrus-sasl-crammd5 cyrus-sasl-digestmd5 cyrus-sasl-gssapi cyrus-sasl-plain 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DenverD

14:59

On 09/06/2012 02:23 AM, Andras Simon wrote:

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Today I ran zypper up on 12.1 and it seemed to want to upgrade the distribution; at least it said

[...] The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE

The following packages are going to change architecture: branding-openSUSE i586 -> noarch gsettings-desktop-schemas noarch -> i586 perl-Config-Crontab i586 -> noarch perl-Parse-RecDescent noarch -> i586 xorg-x11 i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-input i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-driver-video i586 -> noarch xorg-x11-util-devel i586 -> noarch

888 packages to upgrade, 311 new, 46 to remove, 8 to change arch. [...]

that sounds reasonable *if* this is a new install, which was not connected to the net during initial install, or was not allowed to update as part of the install process....and, has not been updated since installation.. that is to say: the install disk images for 12.1 was 'frozen' in November 2011 and there have been LOTS of updates along the way since then...so, if you just installed (or are just not first running in the updates) there are LOTS of packages needing to be updated..

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I guess it has something to do with the release of 12.2.

no, nothing to do with 12.2

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Is it necessary to upgrade? Is this a safe way to do it?

(having read your "All of them has 12.1 in the baseurl" in an earlier post today--running "zypper up" will not upgrade your system to 12.2.. if yours is a fresh install of 12.1, but 12.2 is what you wish for: it would be best (i guess) to do a clean fresh format install of 12.2......OR do the "zypper up" on 12.1 and _then_ follow one of the upgrade paths from 12.1 to 12.2 as outlined in these: http://tinyurl.com/35p966c http://tinyurl.com/6kvoflv http://tinyurl.com/7l4m2td -- dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Andras Simon

21:22

2012/9/6, DenverD :

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888 packages to upgrade, 311 new, 46 to remove, 8 to change arch. [...]

that sounds reasonable *if* this is a new install, which was not connected to the net during initial install, or was not allowed to update as part of the install process....and, has not been updated since installation..

But it's not... It's been getting updated daily since March or so.

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I guess it has something to do with the release of 12.2.

no, nothing to do with 12.2

Then I wonder what... Anyway, I changed the baseurl in openSUSE-12.1-12.1-1.4.repo from http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-stable/repo/oss/ to http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ and things seem to have gotten back to normal. [...]

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http://tinyurl.com/35p966c http://tinyurl.com/6kvoflv http://tinyurl.com/7l4m2td

I'm not planning to upgrade, but thanks for the links anyway! I suppose they'll come in handy when I do. Andras -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

DenverD

7 Sep 7 Sep

06:02

On 09/06/2012 11:22 PM, Andras Simon wrote:

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2012/9/6, DenverD :

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888 packages to upgrade, 311 new, 46 to remove, 8 to change arch. [...]

that sounds reasonable *if* this is a new install, which was not connected to the net during initial install, or was not allowed to update as part of the install process....and, has not been updated since installation..

But it's not... It's been getting updated daily since March or so.

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I guess it has something to do with the release of 12.2.

no, nothing to do with 12.2

Then I wonder what...

Anyway, I changed the baseurl in openSUSE-12.1-12.1-1.4.repo from http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-stable/repo/oss/ to http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/ and things seem to have gotten back to normal.

yes, that makes sense....i must admit i didn't read your words carefully enough, and missed the full address including "...distribution/openSUSE-stable/..." which you and i both now know is *not* the same as ".../distribution/12.1/..." *and* obviously the two do not contain the _same_ packages.. what i wonder now is how your system got to be pointed at "openSUSE-stable" rather than the default "12.1" ??? maybe a pbkac bug? -- dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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