[opensuse] An empty desktop with a little and floating windows with my desktop inside
well I know that this post could sound strange or stupid but it exactly describe my problem I starting my PC today and I found without any reason an empty top except for one dash with inside my desk folder, follow a snapshot (it is fun)...... http://picasaweb.google.com/giov.martin/UABSTOSUnAltroBlogSuScienzaTecnlogia... well I know that in substance it is not a really functional problem however it is horrible! Any ideas will be appreciate thanks in advance -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On November 26, 2008 04:59:25 am ivo.linux wrote:
well I know that this post could sound strange or stupid but it exactly describe my problem I starting my PC today and I found without any reason an empty top except for one dash with inside my desk folder, follow a snapshot (it is fun)...... http://picasaweb.google.com/giov.martin/UABSTOSUnAltroBlogSuScienzaTecnlogi aOpenSources?authkey=P0ZXNNK-YP8#5272931953710553362
well I know that in substance it is not a really functional problem however it is horrible! Any ideas will be appreciate thanks in advance
I must admit I'm not sure exactly what you question/problem is and what actually changed, but what you show is a pretty standard kde4 desktop. Were you expecting kde3.x? If so, logout and log back in and choose kde3.x. If not, maybe you could describe what actually changed? -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Tank for the answer I am not looking for kde3 I use ked4 I find it nice well Before I have on my desktop several icons and each one is embedded in a transparent darked rectangle, when I point the mouse arrow on a icon's rectangle border 4 switches appear on rectangle lefts side: one to move the icons another to rotate another one to the options and the last one to close the icon like a windows. Now I have only one big transparent rectangle with inside the content of my desktop folder. In the same way I can move, rotate, resize and close it. I would like to get back my initial configuration follows same links to pictures that illustrate what I said http://picasaweb.google.com/giov.martin/UABSTOSUnAltroBlogSuScienzaTecnlogia... http://picasaweb.google.com/giov.martin/UABSTOSUnAltroBlogSuScienzaTecnlogia... http://picasaweb.google.com/giov.martin/UABSTOSUnAltroBlogSuScienzaTecnlogia... I think that one possible solution could be delete my kde folder in my home but I afraid to lose same of my setting bye Il Wednesday 26 November 2008 14:33:30 Don Raboud ha scritto:
On November 26, 2008 04:59:25 am ivo.linux wrote:
well I know that this post could sound strange or stupid but it exactly describe my problem I starting my PC today and I found without any reason an empty top except for one dash with inside my desk folder, follow a snapshot (it is fun)...... http://picasaweb.google.com/giov.martin/UABSTOSUnAltroBlogSuScienzaTecnlo gi aOpenSources?authkey=P0ZXNNK-YP8#5272931953710553362
well I know that in substance it is not a really functional problem however it is horrible! Any ideas will be appreciate thanks in advance
I must admit I'm not sure exactly what you question/problem is and what actually changed, but what you show is a pretty standard kde4 desktop.
Were you expecting kde3.x? If so, logout and log back in and choose kde3.x.
If not, maybe you could describe what actually changed?
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On Wednesday 26 November 2008 07:07:50 am ivo.linux wrote:
Now I have only one big transparent rectangle with inside the content of my desktop folder. In the same way I can move, rotate, resize and close it. I would like to get back my initial configuration
I've seen this in KDE 4 - and apparently we're stuck with it. There appears to be a "desktop" folder within the Desktop that contains some or all of the things that should be on the Desktop. I'm not sure why there needs to be folder on a Desktop, but you can't apparently get rid of it. Very bizarre. I'll file a bug report soon - just haven't gotten back to it. https://bugs.kde.org/wizard.cgi -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com Clean out a corner of your mind and creativity will instantly fill it. - Dee Hock -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
This article http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=12328 should enlighten you on what the Desktop folder in KDE 4 is about. Kai Ponte wrote:
There appears to be a "desktop" folder within the Desktop that contains some or all of the things that should be on the Desktop.
I'm not sure why there needs to be folder on a Desktop, but you can't apparently get rid of it.
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On Wednesday 26 November 2008 07:31:03 am you wrote:
This article http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=12328 should enlighten you on what the Desktop folder in KDE 4 is about.
Okay, a little more playing around and I found the Destkop folder is not even visible by default. I can drag stuff to the desktop as needed. http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2008/20081125_kde4_desktop.jpg The only odd thing is that I now get a question as to how to drag things - icon or something else. Any way to turn that off? -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com Clean out a corner of your mind and creativity will instantly fill it. - Dee Hock -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
ivo.linux wrote:
well I know that this post could sound strange or stupid but it exactly describe my problem I starting my PC today and I found without any reason an empty top except for one dash with inside my desk folder, follow a snapshot (it is fun)...... http://picasaweb.google.com/giov.martin/UABSTOSUnAltroBlogSuScienzaTecnlogia...
well I know that in substance it is not a really functional problem however it is horrible! Any ideas will be appreciate thanks in advance
Welcome to KDE 4, When you find a use for the little and floating windows with my desktop inside --- please let the rest of us know... In KDE 4, the little window is a plasmoid (somebody forgot how to say w-i-n-d-o-w). With KDE4, you don't have a real desktop anymore, instead you must create different windows or plasmoids to display icons on your desktop and the icons all must stay in the window, kind of like all programs used to have to stay in the "program manager" window on windows 3.1. It does work sort of like KDE 3 (anything you put in your ~/desktop folder is shown in the desktop plasmoid. Also, you can no longer add an application 'menu' to the taskbar in kde4 (like editors, terminal, or your own custom menu folder). In KDE 4 you supposedly have to create another plasmoid widget and then try and add that to the taskbar. (I'm still trying) So again --- Welcome to KDE4 8-( -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. | openSoftware und SystemEntwicklung Rankin Law Firm, PLLC | Countdown for openSuSE 11.1 www.rankinlawfirm.com | http://counter.opensuse.org/11.1/small -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Il Sunday 30 November 2008 16:34:00 David C. Rankin ha scritto: thanks for the answer, sorry for my English but I am not mother tongue. I am using kde4 from a couple of day, initially I had one several nice plasmoid (now I know their name) one for each icons of my Desk; for exemple 1 for firefox 1 for openoffice etc etc. This situation is referred at my just installed opensuse. Recently i found a different situation where all my old plsmoids are disappeared and a new plasmoid is appeared thath embeb my Desktop folder. well I am not moving from kde3 to kde4 and now I am asking whats happen? where is my desk I am using kde4 from severall time and asking why my plasmoids has been replaced by 1 horrible desk-plasmoid ( I killed him)? I How I can restore all my old plasmoids (in a easy way)? Bye
Welcome to KDE 4,
When you find a use for the little and floating windows with my desktop inside --- please let the rest of us know... In KDE 4, the little window is a plasmoid (somebody forgot how to say w-i-n-d-o-w). With KDE4, you don't have a real desktop anymore, instead you must create different windows or plasmoids to display icons on your desktop and the icons all must stay in the window, kind of like all programs used to have to stay in the "program manager" window on windows 3.1. It does work sort of like KDE 3 (anything you put in your ~/desktop folder is shown in the desktop plasmoid.
Also, you can no longer add an application 'menu' to the taskbar in kde4 (like editors, terminal, or your own custom menu folder). In KDE 4 you supposedly have to create another plasmoid widget and then try and add that to the taskbar. (I'm still trying)
So again --- Welcome to KDE4 8-(
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On 30 November 08, David C. Rankin wrote:
ivo.linux wrote:
well I know that this post could sound strange or stupid but it exactly describe my problem I starting my PC today and I found without any reason an empty top except for one dash with inside my desk folder, follow a snapshot (it is fun)...... http://picasaweb.google.com/giov.martin/UABSTOSUnAltroBlogSuScienzaTecnlo giaOpenSources?authkey=P0ZXNNK-YP8#5272931953710553362
well I know that in substance it is not a really functional problem however it is horrible! Any ideas will be appreciate thanks in advance
Welcome to KDE 4,
When you find a use for the little and floating windows with my desktop inside --- please let the rest of us know... In KDE 4, the little window is a plasmoid (somebody forgot how to say w-i-n-d-o-w). With KDE4, you don't have a real desktop anymore, instead you must create different windows or plasmoids to display icons on your desktop and the icons all must stay in the window, kind of like all programs used to have to stay in the "program manager" window on windows 3.1. It does work sort of like KDE 3 (anything you put in your ~/desktop folder is shown in the desktop plasmoid.
Also, you can no longer add an application 'menu' to the taskbar in kde4 (like editors, terminal, or your own custom menu folder). In KDE 4 you supposedly have to create another plasmoid widget and then try and add that to the taskbar. (I'm still trying)
So again --- Welcome to KDE4 8-(
Like the old saying goes...'Don't fix what ain't broke!'. There simply wasn't anything wrong with KDE3 other than little 'fixes' here and there. Sounds like someone has a 'Vista' mentality with the unfortunate ability to put it in Linux. Unfortunately now I can and will only recommend 10.3 to any new users after hearing so many 'not so good things' about KDE4 and especially how it's mixed in with the installation on 11.0 (and beyond?) which could only confuse a newbie to Linux. One guy I've talked into trying didn't even know what a 'desktop environment' is, and someone wants them to see KDE3 *and* KDE4 together asking which desktop they want *knowing* one of them isn't even close to ready for a production system!? How utterly insane. There...that should bring the screamin' whiners and protectorates of KDE4 out of the woodwork. -- Those who see no difference between people legally immigrating to the US and people who come here illegally must likewise see no difference between consensual sex and rape. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
put it in Linux. Unfortunately now I can and will only recommend 10.3 to any new users after hearing so many 'not so good things' about KDE4 and
Did you totally miss KDE3.5.9 on 11.0?? It's there on my install disk. C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 30 November 08, Clayton wrote:
put it in Linux. Unfortunately now I can and will only recommend 10.3 to any new users after hearing so many 'not so good things' about KDE4 and
Did you totally miss KDE3.5.9 on 11.0?? It's there on my install disk.
C
Did you totally miss 'One guy I've talked into trying didn't even know what a 'desktop environment' is, and someone wants them to see KDE3 *and* KDE4 together asking which desktop they want *knowing* one of them isn't even close to ready for a production system!? How utterly insane.'? Why yes, you did. -- Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. -- John Quincy Adams -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 30 November 2008 16:34:00 David C. Rankin wrote:
When you find a use for the little and floating windows with my desktop inside --- please let the rest of us know... In KDE 4, the little window is a plasmoid (somebody forgot how to say w-i-n-d-o-w).
Brings back memories of trying to explain object oriented design to people: there is a difference between "has a" and "is a". A plasmoid isn't a window. It can have one, but it isn't one itself.
With KDE4, you don't have a real desktop anymore, instead you must create different windows or plasmoids to display icons on your desktop and the icons all must stay in the window,
No, that is the folder view you're talking about. You can have individual icons on the desktop, but if you want everything from a particular folder shown, then you use the folder view. It is a window, because people might want to have more than one, and not be restricted to just ~/Desktop, but if that is what you want, you can make the folder view take up all your desktop and be done with it
Also, you can no longer add an application 'menu' to the taskbar in kde4 (like editors, terminal, or your own custom menu folder).
I'm not 100% sure what you mean, but it's perfectly possible to add a menu to the panel. The taskbar (the place in the panel where you see your open windows) could never hold a menu ever Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
With KDE4, you don't have a real desktop anymore
That is not true. You can have an old fashioned desktop in KDE4 too if you like. It's only a few clicks away. But why go back in time? L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Il Monday 01 December 2008 17:52:17 lynn ha scritto:
With KDE4, you don't have a real desktop anymore
That is not true. You can have an old fashioned desktop in KDE4 too if you like. It's only a few clicks away. But why go back in time?
L x I am interested because my desktop is empty and it has not sens for me. however my question has been misunderstood, I just asked why without any reason (not update...) my nice plasmoids has been replaced by one horrible big plasmoid? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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