Randall R Schulz wrote:

Hi,

On Tuesday 10 August 2004 18:39, Jim Sabatke wrote:

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Version 0.4 is available at:

Nvu seems to have an identity crisis:

% nvu --version Mozilla 1.7.1, Copyright (c) 2003 mozilla.org <developer build>

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-- Jim Sabatke

Randall Schulz

The Changelog on the site says "based on Mozilla 1.7", it must be using the composer modified. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====

Sid, On Tuesday 10 August 2004 19:44, Sid Boyce wrote:

Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Hi,

On Tuesday 10 August 2004 18:39, Jim Sabatke wrote:

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Version 0.4 is available at:

Nvu seems to have an identity crisis:

% nvu --version Mozilla 1.7.1, Copyright (c) 2003 mozilla.org <developer build>

Randall Schulz

The Changelog on the site says "based on Mozilla 1.7", it must be using the composer modified.

I'm aware of the code's provenance, but it should say something to distinguish it from its ancestor. Though it's based on Mozilla, it is not Mozilla, per se.

Regards Sid.

Randall Schulz

Tom Nielsen wrote:

Thanks! Downloading now.

I really wasn't too keen on the other version. It was about the best I've seen, but I was having a problem with tables in that I couldn't get an outline of the table to show. I just kept getting these strange arrows which I didn't like. Anyone know how I can get the table (with cells) to show up?

Tom

On Tuesday 10 August 2004 6:39 pm, Jim Sabatke wrote:

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Version 0.4 is available at:

www.nvu.com

It has been pretty flaky at times, but it's still young. I've never tried putting borders on tables, but all the table color functions have worked fine. There are times where you have to go into the HTML and add properties yet. It does seem to be advancing rapidly though. My main problem is that there is really no documentation for it. I've been trying to figure out what the project management functions do for quite a while now. -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. NOTE: Please do not email me any attachments with Microsoft extensions. They are deleted on my ISP's server before I ever see them, and no bounce message is sent.

* Dennis J. Tuchler [08-11-04 11:39]:

Which of the versions works for SuSE 9.1?

nvu-0.40-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz it is *very* hard to tell with all of two versions available and the name of the other is nvu-0.40-pc-fedora2.tar.gz, unless you do not know what fedora is ??? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

* Anders Johansson [08-11-04 13:55]:

Well, the question is *why*. There isn't a separate version for firefox or thunderbird. And why are they pointing out which gcc version it's compiled with? It makes me think it's the damn c++ issue and it's linked with something. In which case the 2.95 version won't work

I hate g++

from their site: LINUX users: * If your distribution is built with GCC 3.3 this version may not work for you. If it does, please let us know. If it does not, we are looking for someone to help us out by building it on a GCC 3.3 system. Please email feedback@nvu.com with your results. * To view an external URL (to browse an edited file or select one Help menu entry) with Mozilla Application Suite, install this executable script in your system, for instance in the directory where mozilla lives. Edit the MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME environment variable in that script to meet your system settings. Add the following lines to your prefs.js: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "/path/to/the_shell_script"); user_pref ("network.protocol-handler.app.https", "/path/to/the_shell_script"); user_pref ("network.protocol-handler.app.ftp", "/path/to/the_shell_script"); user_pref ("network.protocol-handler.app.file", "/path/to/the_shell_script"); For Mozilla Firebird, adjust that variable too and change the last line of the script to exec $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME/MozillaFirebird $url * If you can't launch Mozilla after Nvu, it's because your Mozilla version is too old. You need a build made after 22-nov-2003. Just get a 1.6 from Mozilla.org if you don't want to try a nightly. Appears to be static for mozilla as I only have 1.6 and am not changin soon, but I can run nvu 4.0 w/o a problem and my mozilla will stall start/run. ??? Looks like they would *like* for you to build it w/gcc 3.3 for them <grin>. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

On Wednesday 11 August 2004 15:13, Anders Johansson wrote:

fedora core 2 *is* a gcc 3.3 distro.

That is the version suse users should choose, not the debian gcc-2.94.4 version.

Alas, the Fedora version won't run for me in SUSE 9.1 Pro - but the other version runs just fine. Cheers, J.C. -- John Coldrick www.axyzfx.com Axyz Animation Houdini/Renderman/Discreet 425 Adelaide St W 416-504-0425 Toronto, ON Canada jc@axyzfx.com M5V 1S4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Everybody is somebody else's weirdo. -- Dykstra

/quote 1ede38.jpgNvu is based on http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/Gecko, the layout engine inside http://www.mozilla.org/Mozilla; it's a super-fast, very reliable, standards conformant engine maintained on a daily basis by a wide community of developers. Its remarkable support of XML, CSS and JavaScript offers the best authoring platform on the market. Its architecture based on XUL makes it the most extensible editing tool ever. 1ede44.jpg 1ede45.jpg 1ede48.jpg Just like http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/Mozilla Firebird or http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/Mozilla Thunderbird, respectively the new browser and the new mail user agent by Mozilla.org, Nvu is a standalone tool. It means it runs independently of any other Gecko-based tool and does not contain the other applications from the http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/Mozilla Application Suite. Hence its small size and fast speed. /end quite off their features page (screenshots heading) scsijon At 03:26 PM 11/08/2004, Fred Miller wrote:

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On Wednesday 11 August 2004 15:13, Anders Johansson wrote:

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fedora core 2 *is* a gcc 3.3 distro.

That is the version suse users should choose, not the debian gcc-2.94.4 version.

Alas, the Fedora version won't run for me in SUSE 9.1 Pro - but

On Wednesday August 11 2004 3:20 pm, John Coldrick wrote: the other

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version runs just fine.

Thanks. 'You happen to know if it runs with Firebird? Wish it worked with Konq.

Thanks,

Fred

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On Wednesday 11 August 2004 15:28, Anders Johansson wrote:

On Wednesday 11 August 2004 21:20, John Coldrick wrote:

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Alas, the Fedora version won't run for me in SUSE 9.1 Pro

works for me. Did you get the gnome updates from the supplementary packages?

Nope - to be honest I didn't dig around much - I was just casually trying it. I'll dig a little deeper, thanks. Cheers, J.C. -- John Coldrick www.axyzfx.com Axyz Animation Houdini/Renderman/Discreet 425 Adelaide St W 416-504-0425 Toronto, ON Canada jc@axyzfx.com M5V 1S4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Everybody is somebody else's weirdo. -- Dykstra

On Wednesday 11 August 2004 21:50, John Coldrick wrote:

On Wednesday 11 August 2004 15:28, Anders Johansson wrote:

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Alas, the Fedora version won't run for me in SUSE 9.1 Pro

works for me. Did you get the gnome updates from the supplementary packages?

OK, I thought you were referring to something on their web site, but nothing there I can see. Can you define what you mean by the above? I run KDE as my primary desktop, but I also have a full gnome install, plus I've been getting You updates. I don't know what you mean by "supplementary packages".

ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/update_for_9.1 or from whichever mirror is better for you

I'm getting no errors whatsoever with the other version, though...

then by all means use it, but if you find something segfaulting at some stage, you'll know what the prime suspect is

On Wednesday 11 August 2004 21:33, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Anders Johansson [08-11-04 14:13]:

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fedora core 2 *is* a gcc 3.3 distro.

I am able to run *both* versions without any appreciable difference, SuSE 9.0.

I'm sure, and I'm not about to delve into a deep investigation into this, but assuming the warning notice on the home page makes any sense at all, there will be some part of it somewhere that will fail to work. Just like the java plugin failed when mozilla first went to gcc3.

Version 0.4 is available at: www.nvu.com

Can I use nvu to create active content pages with Embperl ?

On Wednesday 11 August 2004 02:22 pm, Fred Miller wrote:

On Tuesday August 10 2004 9:39 pm, Jim Sabatke wrote:

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Version 0.4 is available at:

www.nvu.com

I see that it's dependant on Mozilla....don't know if that's a good thing or not. 'No SUSE build, eh?

Fred

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