[opensuse] Re: Who is using Gnome?
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. a écrit :
After having played with KDE 4.2 for a few days, I'm happy about KDE development again. KDE 4.2 is not there yet, but it hasn't even had it's first maintenance release -- KDE 3.5 has had *10*, and there are still issues in KDE 3.5 that I worked around without even thinking about it because they'd affected KDE 3 so long.
problem is why is this called KDE4 when it should be named Plasmoid 0.1... and 4.2 is better but far from good (for example the taskbar is mostly unreadable just now, blurred...) - I couldn't make a cut/paste yesterday with dolphin and was obliged to revert to Konq. I can't understand why the kde team feeled obliged to rewrite all. Make a better failure than Microsoft? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eic8MSSfM http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1412160445 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 02 February 2009 11:38:04 jdd wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. a écrit :
After having played with KDE 4.2 for a few days, I'm happy about KDE development again. KDE 4.2 is not there yet, but it hasn't even had it's first maintenance release -- KDE 3.5 has had *10*, and there are still issues in KDE 3.5 that I worked around without even thinking about it because they'd affected KDE 3 so long.
problem is why is this called KDE4 when it should be named Plasmoid 0.1...
Because plasma is only one of the new frameworks in KDE 4. KDE 4 uses KDE 3 ported to Qt 4 as a foundation, then adds multiple "pillars": Plasma, Phonon, Solid, Decibel, Akonadi, Nepomuk, and Soprano to name a few. Finally, KDE ships with a variety of application that use the pillars and foundation. I agree that KDE 4.0 and 4.1 didn't deserve those names. I think it would have been better to simply call them KDE 4.Alpha and KDE 4.Beta because they were *not* ready. (4.0 was for developers only; 4.1 was for early adopters.) KDE 4.2 is the first one that really feels like KDE. It doesn't feel like KDE 3.5... more like KDE 3.2 or 3.3.0 but it does deserve the KDE name, IMHO. KDE 4.2.0 still is not as good as KDE 3.5.10, but it is something I can use day-in and day-out.
and 4.2 is better but far from good (for example the taskbar is mostly unreadable just now, blurred...)
Odd, I'm not seeing that here. Could it be some desktop effect that you've enabled? My taskbar is not blurry on either Debian (personal frankenstein) or openSUSE (11.1+PackMan+VLC+Factory/KDE4-{Core,Qt,Extra,Community}). What version of kdebase4-workspace do you have?
I couldn't make a cut/paste yesterday with dolphin and was obliged to revert to Konq.
I'm not entirely sold on Dolphin. I still use Konq for my file management, but that just because I'm used to it.
I can't understand why the kde team feeled obliged to rewrite all. Make a better failure than Microsoft?
A lot of the "rewrite" was required for the port to Qt4 and/or Windows. It would have been done independent of any of the pillars. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
and 4.2 is better but far from good (for example the taskbar is mostly unreadable just now, blurred...)
I found that too when using KDE 4.2 on a profile that was previously 4.1. Rename ~/.kde to something else, restart X, then go back and salvage your kmail and other settings.
I can't understand why the kde team feeled obliged to rewrite all. Make a better failure than Microsoft?
Right, and when MS doesn't rewrite Vista for 7, people call it a service pack and complain that they _should_ have rewritten it. Every so often you need to get the crust out. And if you didn't notice, KDE 4.2, even with all the eye candy, is snappier than 3.5 on borderline hardware. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü N�����r��y隊Z)z{.�ﮞ˛���m�)z{.��+�Z+i�b�*'jW(�f�vǦj)h���Ǿ��i����� ��
I just went through 15 posts, each with "Who is using Gnome" as the main part of the subject line. Within those 15 posts, "Gnome" was mentioned once. I read subject lines so here's my response to this one: I do. (Nobody's gonna accuse me of hijacking subject lines!) -- Don Henson
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 07:03:33 Dotan Cohen wrote:
And if you didn't notice, KDE 4.2, even with all the eye candy, is snappier than 3.5 on borderline hardware.
I wouldn't say my hardware is borderline -- this laptop has 2G of RAM, a 2GHz Core 2 Duo, and a Intel 945GM but KDE 4.2 is not as snappy as 3.5.10. It feels sluggish at times. That said, I also turned on transparency and wobbly windows and inactive/disabled color effects and other things, so it's not an apples-to- apples comparision and I know that. Oddly enough, on my desktop machine with faster opterons, more RAM, and an NVidia video card, the difference between 3.5.10 and 4.2 is even more noticeable. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
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