On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 19:16 +0200, A. den Oudsten wrote:

Op 30-07-10 17:56, C schreef:

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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 17:37, A. den Oudsten wrote:

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I have been struggling to configure my Wifi connection. I understood from previous threads that I have to remove NetworkManager.state and to do rcnetwork restart to be able to configure the Wifi connection with NetworkManager. This did not lead to success.

So now I intend to make a fresh 11.3 installation, remove NetworkManager.state and do rcnetwork restart. Then I'll do a NetworkManager guided install.

Can anybody tell me what's wrong in this approach?

Just curious, where did you read you need to remove NetworkManager.state? And.. are you using Gnome or KDE?

Generally speaking - set up your network card to use NetworkManager if it isn't already like that... and use the NetworkManager icon to connect... this is of course assuming you've got a recognized WiFi card.

On my netbook using an Atheros card, I don't do anything special at all... click the Network Manager icon, and follow it through to add a WiFi access point.

C

I learned it from earlier threads. I use KDE. I do not understand why I don't get a NetworkManager icon at all. May be that the trick? André

Hi, check to see if you have Networkmanager installed. I think that if it is installed, the program should be identified with its icon in the start menu (Kmenu). The next thing to check is to look in Yast under NetworkDevices>network settings>global options tab to see if your networking is configured to use ifup, or network manager. Next you need to go back to the overview tab and see if your wlan appears in the list of devices. If it does, you need to edit it so that the correct module is used to run the wlan. You should post to the list which wlan card you have. I have a realtek rtl8192se wireless card in my laptop. I am able to install the driver for it to get the wlan working in opensuse 11.1, but the same driver won't work in 11.3 for some reason. I had to reinstall 11.1 after installing 11.3 to get the wireless to work. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Op 30-07-10 19:50, Mark Misulich schreef:

On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 19:16 +0200, A. den Oudsten wrote:

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Op 30-07-10 17:56, C schreef:

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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 17:37, A. den Oudsten wrote:

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I have been struggling to configure my Wifi connection. I understood from previous threads that I have to remove NetworkManager.state and to do rcnetwork restart to be able to configure the Wifi connection with NetworkManager. This did not lead to success.

So now I intend to make a fresh 11.3 installation, remove NetworkManager.state and do rcnetwork restart. Then I'll do a NetworkManager guided install.

Can anybody tell me what's wrong in this approach?

Just curious, where did you read you need to remove NetworkManager.state? And.. are you using Gnome or KDE?

Generally speaking - set up your network card to use NetworkManager if it isn't already like that... and use the NetworkManager icon to connect... this is of course assuming you've got a recognized WiFi card.

On my netbook using an Atheros card, I don't do anything special at all... click the Network Manager icon, and follow it through to add a WiFi access point.

C

I learned it from earlier threads. I use KDE. I do not understand why I don't get a NetworkManager icon at all. May be that the trick? André

Hi, check to see if you have Networkmanager installed. I think that if it is installed, the program should be identified with its icon in the start menu (Kmenu).

It is installed, but no icon

The next thing to check is to look in Yast under NetworkDevices>network settings>global options tab to see if your networking is configured to use ifup, or network manager. User controlled with NetworkManager

Next you need to go back to the overview tab and see if your wlan appears in the list of devices. If it does, you need to edit it so that the correct module is used to run the wlan.

In the overview tab appears; devicename wlan0

You should post to the list which wlan card you have. I have a realtek rtl8192se wireless card in my laptop. I am able to install the driver for it to get the wlan working in opensuse 11.1, but the same driver won't work in 11.3 for some reason. I had to reinstall 11.1 after installing 11.3 to get the wireless to work.

The card is AR5BXB63 802.11bg NIC

Mark

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Op 30-07-10 21:04, lynn schreef:

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Hi, check to see if you have Networkmanager installed. I think that if it is installed, the program should be identified with its icon in the start menu (Kmenu).

It is installed, but no icon

To make it appear as an icon, I had to install knetworkmanage. It then appears.

L x

There is no knetworkmanager installed André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Op 30-07-10 21:23, lynn schreef:

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There is no knetworkmanager installed

That could be why you don't see an icon. L x

And there is no knetworkmanager to install !!! André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 30 July 2010 21:43:43 C wrote:

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 21:29, A. den Oudsten wrote:

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Op 30-07-10 21:23, lynn schreef:

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There is no knetworkmanager installed

That could be why you don't see an icon.

It's called: NetworkManager-kde4 Install that. Then type knetworkmanager in a shell. Here is the files it installs: /usr/bin/knetworkmanager /usr/share/applications/kde4/knetworkmanager.desktop /usr/share/autostart/kde4-knetworkmanager-autostart.desktop /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/knetworkmanager.png /usr/share/kde4/env /usr/share/kde4/env/knetworkmanager.default.sh L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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but the same driver won't work in 11.3 for some reason. I had to reinstall 11.1 after installing 11.3 to get the wireless to work.

The card is AR5BXB63 802.11bg NIC

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Mark

When that happens it's best to use a cheap usb wifi dongle that does work until one gets the built in one working. It's only about 15 Euros. I have Edimax Railink firmware RT2571. Saves a lot of time. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hi André; See comments below

Op 31-07-10 02:49, Thomas Taylor schreef:

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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:37:03 +0200 "A. den Oudsten" wrote:

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I have been struggling to configure my Wifi connection. I understood from previous threads that I have to remove NetworkManager.state and to do rcnetwork restart to be able to configure the Wifi connection with NetworkManager. This did not lead to success.

So now I intend to make a fresh 11.3 installation, remove NetworkManager.state and do rcnetwork restart. Then I'll do a NetworkManager guided install.

Can anybody tell me what's wrong in this approach?

André den Oudsten

Hi André;

One method of getting things working is to use ifup control which will allow you to control more of the variables. Looking through your thread, I don't see any information about what router/access point you're using or what security protocol you use.

Would you please post the contents of /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-wlan0 or the device you use. Obfuscate any identifying info, just want to see the settings. Mine looks like this:

####### start listing ####### BOOTPROTO='dhcp4' <<<<<<<< 4 only, dhcp6 causes problems with wireless BROADCAST='' ETHTOOL_OPTIONS='' IFPLUGD_PRIORITY='10' IPADDR='' MTU='' NAME='Wireless WiFi Link 5100' NETMASK='' NETWORK='' REMOTE_IPADDR='' STARTMODE='ifplugd' USERCONTROL='no' WIRELESS_AP='' WIRELESS_AP_SCANMODE='1' WIRELESS_AUTH_MODE='psk' WIRELESS_BITRATE='54' WIRELESS_CA_CERT='' WIRELESS_CHANNEL='4' WIRELESS_CLIENT_CERT='' WIRELESS_CLIENT_KEY='' WIRELESS_CLIENT_KEY_PASSWORD='' WIRELESS_DEFAULT_KEY='0' WIRELESS_EAP_AUTH='' WIRELESS_EAP_MODE='' WIRELESS_ESSID='xxxXXXxxxXXX' <<<<<<< obscured WIRELESS_FREQUENCY='' WIRELESS_KEY='' WIRELESS_KEY_0='' WIRELESS_KEY_1='' WIRELESS_KEY_2='' WIRELESS_KEY_3='' WIRELESS_KEY_LENGTH='128' WIRELESS_MODE='Managed' WIRELESS_NICK='' WIRELESS_NWID='' WIRELESS_PEAP_VERSION='' WIRELESS_POWER='no' WIRELESS_WPA_ANONID='' WIRELESS_WPA_IDENTITY='' WIRELESS_WPA_PASSWORD='' WIRELESS_WPA_PSK='XXXXXXxxxxxxXXXXXXxxxxxx' <<<<<<< obscured ######### end listing #######

Yours should look similar. To get mine working I started with manual control (ifup) and using NO security until I could get a reliable connection and then adding security when it was working. That eliminates some of the contributing problems allowing you to deal with just one variable at a time.

In addition to posting your copy of the above, also please give us as much information about your system as needed (computer make/model, make/model of wireless card & router/AP, which desktop (KDE - Gnome - other) and any steps you took prior to the problem and any error messages received during those steps and any information you think would apply here.

Looking forward to your reply.

Tom

Here you find mine:

BOOTPROTO='dhcp'

change BOOTPROTO= to "dhcp4" wireless seems to have problems with dhcp6 at this time.

BROADCAST=''

ETHTOOL_OPTIONS=''

IPADDR=''

MTU=''

NAME='AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter'

NETMASK=''

NETWORK=''

REMOTE_IPADDR=''

STARTMODE='auto'

USERCONTROL='yes'

WIRELESS_AP=''

WIRELESS_AP_SCANMODE='1'

WIRELESS_AUTH_MODE='psk'

WIRELESS_BITRATE='auto'

WIRELESS_CA_CERT=''

WIRELESS_CHANNEL=''

WIRELESS_CLIENT_CERT=''

WIRELESS_CLIENT_KEY=''

WIRELESS_CLIENT_KEY_PASSWORD=''

WIRELESS_DEFAULT_KEY='0'

WIRELESS_EAP_AUTH=''

WIRELESS_EAP_MODE=''

WIRELESS_ESSID='SpeedTouchD17287'

WIRELESS_FREQUENCY=''

WIRELESS_KEY=''

WIRELESS_KEY_0=''

WIRELESS_KEY_1=''

WIRELESS_KEY_2=''

WIRELESS_KEY_3=''

WIRELESS_KEY_LENGTH='128'

WIRELESS_MODE='Managed'

WIRELESS_NICK=''

WIRELESS_NWID=''

WIRELESS_PEAP_VERSION=''

WIRELESS_POWER='yes'

WIRELESS_WPA_ANONID=''

WIRELESS_WPA_IDENTITY=''

WIRELESS_WPA_PASSWORD=''

WIRELESS_WPA_PSK='..........'

My Laptop is an Acer Aspire 5315 with an AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter devisename: wlan0 automatic started at startup IP address by DHCP

I did a fresh install and now I have Networkmanager to configure my Wifi I found the right ESSID and was asked for the BSSID and assumed it was the same as the MAC code, because of the number of digits required. I filled in the WPA-PSK code although there was WPA/WPA2-personal instead of WPA-PSK. After that I saw a growing blue bar, but it reached only two thirds of its supposed lenght, but no connection. iwconfig wlan0 essid SpeedTouchD17827 was refused, even in su mode. What are my last possibilities? Thanks André

Other than the BOOTPROTO I don't see any glaring error. Do you have access to the router and can you configure it? If so, try setting it for no security (no password), then set the laptop to no security also and see if they will connect that way. That would help narrow down where the problem is. If they can connect without security, then we need to look at what the security settings are doing. If it can't connect without security then the problem is either in hardware (bad wireless card), a problem in the router, or usinf the wrong or misconfigured driver. In addition to what I've told you I would also recommend posting on the openSUSE forums, particularly the wireless sub-forum at:http://forums.opensuse.org/ There are people there with far more knowledge than I have and probably someone with the same system. I forgot to ask before, what router/access point are you using? I've heard that a few routers only work with their own brand of wireless card. Hope we can get this problem solved for you shortly. Tom -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin openSuSE 11.3 x86_64 Fedora 13 KDE 4.4.4 rel 2, FF 3.6.6 claws-mail 3.7.6 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

After a long struggle and thanks to the suggestions I got from the group I have now Networkmanager running and trying tt connect to my wifi. I see the blue bar filling the rectangle for about 70%. In Yast in Network devices I see User controlled with NetworkManager Global options: Ipv6 activate Survey: AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter Mac:00:1e:4e:9e:cb:c6 BusID 0000:06:00.0 Device name: wlan0 Automaticly started at Startup IP address assigned by DHCP Hostname/DNS Linux-7dam Domainename Site Designate hostname to a loopback-IP Routing Standard Ipv6-gateway to be chosen as eth0, io or wlan0 In NetworkManager I filled in: Name: SpeedTouchD17287 Tab Wireless SSID: SpeedTouchD17287 Mode: Infrastructure BSSID: 00:1e:4c:9e:cb:c6 (assuming this is the Mac code in Yast) Restrict to interface: Wireless 802.11 MTU: Automatic Tab Wireless protection WPA/WPA2-personal (Although my router asks for WPA-PSK) Password: .......... Tab IP-address Configured as: Automatic(DHCP) Basic settings What should be the last (I hope) I has to do? Thanks, Andre den Oudsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 8/9/2010 1:39 AM, A. den Oudsten wrote:

After a long struggle and thanks to the suggestions I got from the group I have now Networkmanager running and trying to connect to my wifi. I see the blue bar filling the rectangle for about 70% , and that is going on and on!!!

In Yast in Network devices I see User controlled with NetworkManager Global options: Ipv6 activate Survey: AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter Mac:00:1e:4e:9e:cb:c6 BusID 0000:06:00.0 Device name: wlan0 Automaticly started at Startup IP address assigned by DHCP Hostname/DNS Linux-7dam Domainename Site Designate hostname to a loopback-IP Routing Standard Ipv6-gateway to be chosen as eth0, io or wlan0

In NetworkManager I filled in: Name: SpeedTouchD17287 Tab Wireless SSID: SpeedTouchD17287 (found during scanning) Mode: Infrastructure BSSID: 00:1e:4c:9e:cb:c6 (assuming this is the Mac code in Yast) Restrict to interface: Wireless 802.11 MTU: Automatic Tab Wireless protection WPA/WPA2-personal (Although my router asks for WPA-PSK) Password: .......... Tab IP-address Configured as: Automatic(DHCP) Basic settings

What should be the last (I hope) I have to do? Thanks, Andre den Oudsten

Why do you have anything is BSSID? I've never seen that used in any of my wifi connections. Also, all of my Restrict to interface say ANY. Does your router do Mac Address filtering? -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Op 09-08-10 21:29, A. den Oudsten schreef:

Op 09-08-10 20:47, John Andersen schreef:

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On 8/9/2010 1:39 AM, A. den Oudsten wrote:

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After a long struggle and thanks to the suggestions I got from the group I have now Networkmanager running and trying to connect to my wifi. I see the blue bar filling the rectangle for about 70% , and that is going on and on!!!

In Yast in Network devices I see User controlled with NetworkManager Global options: Ipv6 activate Survey: AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter Mac:00:1e:4e:9e:cb:c6 BusID 0000:06:00.0 Device name: wlan0 Automaticly started at Startup IP address assigned by DHCP Hostname/DNS Linux-7dam Domainename Site Designate hostname to a loopback-IP Routing Standard Ipv6-gateway to be chosen as eth0, io or wlan0

In NetworkManager I filled in: Name: SpeedTouchD17287 Tab Wireless SSID: SpeedTouchD17287 (found during scanning) Mode: Infrastructure BSSID: 00:1e:4c:9e:cb:c6 (assuming this is the Mac code in Yast) Restrict to interface: Wireless 802.11 MTU: Automatic Tab Wireless protection WPA/WPA2-personal (Although my router asks for WPA-PSK) Password: .......... Tab IP-address Configured as: Automatic(DHCP) Basic settings

What should be the last (I hope) I have to do? Thanks, Andre den Oudsten

Why do you have anything is BSSID? I've never seen that used in any of my wifi connections. Also, all of my Restrict to interface say ANY.

Does your router do Mac Address filtering?

When I scan for Wifi signals My router has a code like Mac Address. Whit that number in place of BSSID, or no BSSID and Interface any I still have a partial blue bar, but no connection

André

I want to read the documentation but can't find anything about Networkmanager in the KDE documentation. Can anybody tell me where to look? Thanks, André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Op 10-08-10 22:57, Will Stephenson schreef:

On Tuesday 10 August 2010 19:16:11 A. den Oudsten wrote:

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I want to read the documentation but can't find anything about Networkmanager in the KDE documentation. Can anybody tell me where to look? Thanks, André

Unfortunately I haven't written any yet: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245357

Jonathan R from open-slx is starting to write some upstream docu though.

The openSUSE Docu team has written a section about it in the 11.3 manual.

There is also http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement.

BTW the BSSID field should be unnecessary.

Will

Under the Documentation icon is not yet documentation about Networkmanager. I am now so far that I get the Wifi Icon and next to that a nice green shield that indicates WPA2-PSK and the blue bar that goes to, sometimes, to 97%. But still no connection!! Any suggestion is welcome André den Oudsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 8/17/2010 11:37 AM, A. den Oudsten wrote:

Op 11-08-10 13:45, A. den Oudsten schreef:

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Op 10-08-10 22:57, Will Stephenson schreef:

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On Tuesday 10 August 2010 19:16:11 A. den Oudsten wrote:

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I want to read the documentation but can't find anything about Networkmanager in the KDE documentation. Can anybody tell me where to look? Thanks, André

Unfortunately I haven't written any yet: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245357

Jonathan R from open-slx is starting to write some upstream docu though.

The openSUSE Docu team has written a section about it in the 11.3 manual.

There is also http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement.

BTW the BSSID field should be unnecessary.

Will

I did a fresh install of 11.3

Clicked on connection icon

In popup screen Wireless 802.11b/g invited me to configure a connection

Clicking on that produced a list of Wifi signals with strenght

My router chosen

Authentication method WPA/WPA2-Personal

Entered Key ….......

To my great satisfaction, connection!!

After restarted the machine it still worked.

Next day after starting; no connection

Editing in NM had no effect, I could not choose 802.11b/g and scanning gave nothing

After restarting the machine it was possible to scan and choose my router, but realising a connection was not possible; only trying to make one.

How can I realise a connection that stays?

Is it only once possible to realise a connection with NetworkManager?

After 6 weeks of struggling the last (I hope) hint is more than welcome

André den Oudsten

Are you powering down over nite, or merely letting it sleep/hibernate? Your problem may have to do with the fact that your machine goes to sleep mode and does not reliably re-awake your wifi card. In past versions NetworkManager had a problem with this and warned of such in yast at installation time. In reality it seems more like a power management problem than a networkmanager problem. There are some settings in yast /etc/sysconfig that you might research. One is hardware/network/wlan0/wireless_power Another is Network/General/Global_post_UP_Exec where you can create a script to be run. If you can configure some command line scrip that does what it takes to get the card back on line properly (rather than using any GUI tools). I'm not sure what to tell you other the above. -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 17 August 2010 21:54:50 A. den Oudsten wrote:

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Are you powering down over nite, or merely letting it sleep/hibernate?

No, I really shut off the machine

Can you follow the troubleshooting steps at the userbase.kde.org link I posted earlier in the thread? Specifically, does it fail to connect automatically, but connects manually when you click the connection, or, does nothing happen at all when you click the connection? If so the log output of NetworkManager (details at the link) is useful. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:31 AM, A. den Oudsten wrote:

Op 17-08-10 22:57, Will Stephenson schreef:

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On Tuesday 17 August 2010 21:54:50 A. den Oudsten wrote:

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Are you powering down over nite, or merely letting it sleep/hibernate?

No, I really shut off the machine

Can you follow the troubleshooting steps at the userbase.kde.org link I posted earlier in the thread?

Specifically, does it fail to connect automatically, but connects manually when you click the connection, or, does nothing happen at all when you click the connection?  If so the log output of NetworkManager (details at the link) is useful.

Will

I have read the troubleshooting steps and concluded that it was too technical for me. So I reinstalled 11.3 and made a wifi connection as I had learned during my struggle. This was the second time I got a connection!!! Are there precautions to observe when I shut down the machine to be sure I get the connection at startup the next time?

André

Wait a second. When you install it, it works, and after "a while", it stops... In the between of those two different time stamps... was the system upgraded at a certain level? If yes, maybe, and just maybe, the update is not compatible with something on your system. Then, maybe the update procedure would give us a clue of where is the trouble. Am I right? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org