Arrggghhh Linux is such a joy not - install of 4.1 part II
Well here I am again, trying to install 4.1 which I think has worked correctly. Problem is my applications are not working any more, other than KDE based apps. The binaries and installtation procedure I downloaded from the Xfree site and choose the 4.1 binaries. I have now read the following :- "The next step when installing over an existing version is to check for existing configuration files. As of Xfree86 version 3.9.18, the run time configuration files are installed by default under /etc/X11 instead of under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11. The installer will move the existing ones for you and create the necessary symbolic links" I thought this may be my problem so I copied the file from the old library to the /etc/X11 library. The copy kept failing. Finally perfromed the copy as root using GUI So I logged in as root and tried to create a link ln -s target source - the link was created successfully, now I dont know what a symbolic link is or why I need one, but one has been defined and it has made not a jot of difference. When I try to execute x3270 is doen't work.(clicking on the icon on the desk top) Where do I see messages telling that something is wrong. I see nothing on the console. As per usual with trying to install something on linux I feel worn down and frustrated. I have wasted all afternoon. Cannot perform my work because the application I use wont run. My screens look nice with the higher resolution and correct graphic card driver but what use is that when I can't do my work. I feel like swearing and throwing the Linux CD's in the bin never to be seen again. But not to give up I decided I would reinstall the x3270 program. I download the tar ball x3270-3.2A1.tgz. The I tried to untar the file tar -xvfz x3270*.tgz Operation failed something about the options used (I am on windows now so can't remember exactly). So I am now at the point of Nice desk top, no x3270, cannot Install a new x3270. Off to the pub to get pissed out of my head and probably start a fight. Geez I am a user I want to use but ...... rant moan rant vent moan. I know this is all probably my lack of knowledge rather than linux. But I am finding it very frustrating. Yours sulking now Neil
Briggs, N. - Neil - wrote:
Well here I am again, trying to install 4.1 which I think has worked correctly. Problem is my applications are not working any more, other than KDE based apps. The binaries and installtation procedure I downloaded from the Xfree site and choose the 4.1 binaries.
I have now read the following :-
"The next step when installing over an existing version is to check for existing configuration files. As of Xfree86 version 3.9.18, the run time configuration files are installed by default under /etc/X11 instead of under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11. The installer will move the existing ones for you and create the necessary symbolic links"
I thought this may be my problem so I copied the file from the old library to the /etc/X11 library. The copy kept failing. Finally perfromed the copy as root using GUI So I logged in as root and tried to create a link ln -s target source - the link was created successfully, now I dont know what a symbolic link is or why I need one, but one has been defined and it has made not a jot of difference. When I try to execute x3270 is doen't work.(clicking on the icon on the desk top)
Where do I see messages telling that something is wrong. I see nothing on the console.
As per usual with trying to install something on linux I feel worn down and frustrated. I have wasted all afternoon. Cannot perform my work because the application I use wont run. My screens look nice with the higher resolution and correct graphic card driver but what use is that when I can't do my work. I feel like swearing and throwing the Linux CD's in the bin never to be seen again.
But not to give up I decided I would reinstall the x3270 program. I download the tar ball x3270-3.2A1.tgz. The I tried to untar the file tar -xvfz x3270*.tgz Operation failed something about the options used (I am on windows now so can't remember exactly).
So I am now at the point of Nice desk top, no x3270, cannot Install a new x3270.
Off to the pub to get pissed out of my head and probably start a fight. Geez I am a user I want to use but ...... rant moan rant vent moan.
I know this is all probably my lack of knowledge rather than linux. But I am finding it very frustrating.
Yours sulking now Neil
What program is that x3270? Maybe I can try it and figure it out... Matt PS It can be very frustrating, especially if you are used to a Windows environment. As Ben and Yoda say, "You must unlearn what you have learned". Making Ben sound like Yoda, hmmmm....
* StarTux (matthew@psychohorse.com) [010802 10:37]: -> Making Ben sound like Yoda, hmmmm.... More like Budda lately. *laugh* -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org "Success is how high you bounce when you hit bottom" --General Patton
"Briggs, N. - Neil -" wrote:
Well here I am again, trying to install 4.1 which I think has worked correctly. Problem is my applications are not working any more, other than KDE based apps. The binaries and installtation procedure I downloaded from the Xfree site and choose the 4.1 binaries.
I had a problem similar to yours a while ago. I had gotten the link for downloading from the SuSE website. It turns out that in the paragraph with the link, there are two different places you can click on. One takes you to another part of the SuSE site, the other to the XFree site. You want the one that takes you to the other part of the SuSE site. Hope that helps. Paul
On Thursday 02 August 2001 17:51, Briggs, N. - Neil - wrote:
Well here I am again, trying to install 4.1 which I think has worked correctly. Problem is my applications are not working any more, other than KDE based apps. The binaries and installtation procedure I downloaded from the Xfree site and choose the 4.1 binaries.
I have now read the following :-
"The next step when installing over an existing version is to check for existing configuration files. As of Xfree86 version 3.9.18, the run time configuration files are installed by default under /etc/X11 instead of under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11. The installer will move the existing ones for you and create the necessary symbolic links"
I thought this may be my problem so I copied the file from the old library to the /etc/X11 library. The copy kept failing. Finally perfromed the copy as root using GUI So I logged in as root and tried to create a link ln -s target source - the link was created successfully, now I dont know what a symbolic link is or why I need one, but one has been defined and it has made not a jot of difference. When I try to execute x3270 is doen't work.(clicking on the icon on the desk top)
Where do I see messages telling that something is wrong. I see nothing on the console.
As per usual with trying to install something on linux I feel worn down and frustrated. I have wasted all afternoon. Cannot perform my work because the application I use wont run. My screens look nice with the higher resolution and correct graphic card driver but what use is that when I can't do my work. I feel like swearing and throwing the Linux CD's in the bin never to be seen again.
But not to give up I decided I would reinstall the x3270 program. I download the tar ball x3270-3.2A1.tgz. The I tried to untar the file tar -xvfz x3270*.tgz
The options here need to be in the right order. The f tells tar that the next thing to expect on the command line is a file name, so tar xvzf x3270*.tgz would be correct.
Operation failed something about the options used (I am on windows now so can't remember exactly).
So I am now at the point of Nice desk top, no x3270, cannot Install a new x3270.
Off to the pub to get pissed out of my head and probably start a fight. Geez I am a user I want to use but ...... rant moan rant vent moan.
I know this is all probably my lack of knowledge rather than linux. But I am finding it very frustrating.
Yours sulking now Neil
Try opening an xterm and running x3270 from the command line. If there is a problem, this is the most likely way to get informative error messages. Another way is strace, but it is unlikely to help you, unless you're experienced enough to interpret it's *ton* of messages. If all else fails, try getting the X 4.1 rpms from ftp.suse.com. I'm running x3270 under 4.1, so it's not a problem with the combo. Regards Anders
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