On Saturday 16 February 2008 06:01:59 pm Monkey 9 wrote:

Michele schreef:

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Hi all,

I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working

Are you sure you have cups installed completely?

Well, not really sure, but i think so, this is what i have AFAIK rpm -qa cups | grep cups: cups-backends-1.0-126 cups-libs-32bit-1.2.12-22.6 cups-libs-1.2.12-22.6 cups-1.2.12-22.6 cups-drivers-1.2.12-28 cups-client-1.2.12-22.6 libgnomecups-0.2.2-123.2 cups-autoconfig-0.1.0-27 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Monkey 9 schreef:

Michele schreef:

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On Saturday 16 February 2008 06:01:59 pm Monkey 9 wrote:

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Michele schreef:

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Hi all,

I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working

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Are you sure you have cups installed completely?

Well, not really sure, but i think so,

this is what i have AFAIK

rpm -qa cups | grep cups:

cups-backends-1.0-126 cups-libs-32bit-1.2.12-22.6 cups-libs-1.2.12-22.6 cups-1.2.12-22.6 cups-drivers-1.2.12-28 cups-client-1.2.12-22.6 libgnomecups-0.2.2-123.2 cups-autoconfig-0.1.0-27

seems all present. Did you contact the cupslist about this? cups@easysw.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-02-16 at 19:00 +0100, Michele wrote: ...

Don't know if it's the case to do...

also i notice tha this is strange in /var/log/cups/error_log :

-cut- [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Group and SystemGroup cannot use the same groups! [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Resetting Group to "nobody"... -cut-

seems to me this can be a config problem (?)

Try: rccups status - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHtywWtTMYHG2NR9URAjlTAKCHtNlA5+QHs99LMNLFV2wwKd38AwCfUcn1 BFettvDjwktKGhPt9ViL2cY= =y+Ve -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Monkey 9 wrote:

Michele schreef:

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Hi all,

I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos... Searched the web but didn't found a solution ... I also use opensuse 32bit on a laptop and the cups config web page works over there... So maybe someone can give me some suggestions to solve this problem...

Thanks, Michele. Are you sure you have cups installed completely?

It can be completely installed, but not running. She should check to see if cups is running with: $ ps -ef | grep cupsd If it's not running, first try (from root) /etc/init.d/cups start if that gives an error THEN check to see if it's installed properly. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 16 February 2008 10:23:30 pm Don Raboud wrote:

On Saturday 16 February 2008 09:57, Michele wrote:

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Hi all,

I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos... Searched the web but didn't found a solution ... I also use opensuse 32bit on a laptop and the cups config web page works over there... So maybe someone can give me some suggestions to solve this problem...

Thanks, Michele.

Try the ip address directly?

http://127.0.0.1:631

-- Don

No way, no valid ip works ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Tom Patton wrote:

On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 15:07 +0100, Michele wrote:

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On Saturday 16 February 2008 10:23:30 pm Don Raboud wrote:

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On Saturday 16 February 2008 09:57, Michele wrote:

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Hi all,

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Try the ip address directly? http://127.0.0.1:631

-- Don No way, no valid ip works ...

If you have lynx installed, try (from a terminal) "lynx 127.0.0.1:631"

You may get a more informative error than simply "not found".

It's obvious that cupsd isn't running. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-02-17 at 21:54 -0700, Tom Patton wrote:

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It's obvious that cupsd isn't running.

well, per her msg last night at 7:07pm...

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well it's running

rccups status Checking for cupsd: running --

" so I guess it is running somewhere...

Now, I have doubts about that. Yesterday, my spamd daemon died suddenly, without saying a word, but "rcspamd status" reported "running". I guess it checks to see if it should be running, not that it is really running, perhaps by checking for the pid lock file. The spamd code, that failed, is this: status) echo -n "Checking for service spamd " ## Check status with checkproc(8), if process is running ## checkproc will return with exit status 0. # Return value is slightly different for the status command: # 0 - service running # 1 - service dead, but /var/run/ pid file exists # 2 - service dead, but /var/lock/ lock file exists # 3 - service not running # NOTE: checkproc returns LSB compliant status values. checkproc -p $PIDFILE $SPAMD_BIN rc_status -v ;; and for cups is it the same code? Almost: status) echo -n "Checking for cupsd: " ## Check status with checkproc(8), if process is running ## checkproc will return with exit status 0. # Status has a slightly different for the status command: # 0 - service running # 1 - service dead, but /var/run/ pid file exists # 2 - service dead, but /var/lock/ lock file exists # 3 - service not running # NOTE: checkproc returns LSB compliant status values. checkproc $CUPSD_BIN rc_status -v ;; So... I think it should be running, but it wouldn't hurt to check if it is really so. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHugrztTMYHG2NR9URAse3AJwOvNRCwB9UFr3hAN2/X3PBL2SxswCeNARh ZylDYU2XaIfEt/3gHYlLd8M= =NKfV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 19 February 2008 12:39:27 am Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Carlos E. R. [02-18-08 17:49]:

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So... I think it should be running, but it wouldn't hurt to check if it is really so.

the a "rccupsd restart" with positive feedback would not hurt anything and would confirm active presence :^)

I've done many times, seems to restart without errors apart from what alredy posted: " also i notice tha this is strange in /var/log/cups/error_log : -cut- [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Group and SystemGroup cannot use the same groups! [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Resetting Group to "nobody"... -cut- " -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Sunday 2008-02-17 at 21:54 -0700, Tom Patton wrote:

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It's obvious that cupsd isn't running.

well, per her msg last night at 7:07pm...

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well it's running

rccups status Checking for cupsd: running --

" so I guess it is running somewhere...

Now, I have doubts about that. Yesterday, my spamd daemon died suddenly, without saying a word, but "rcspamd status" reported "running". I guess it checks to see if it should be running, not that it is really running, perhaps by checking for the pid lock file.

The spamd code, that failed, is this:

status) echo -n "Checking for service spamd " ## Check status with checkproc(8), if process is running ## checkproc will return with exit status 0.

# Return value is slightly different for the status command: # 0 - service running # 1 - service dead, but /var/run/ pid file exists # 2 - service dead, but /var/lock/ lock file exists # 3 - service not running

# NOTE: checkproc returns LSB compliant status values. checkproc -p $PIDFILE $SPAMD_BIN rc_status -v ;;

and for cups is it the same code? Almost:

status) echo -n "Checking for cupsd: " ## Check status with checkproc(8), if process is running ## checkproc will return with exit status 0.

# Status has a slightly different for the status command: # 0 - service running # 1 - service dead, but /var/run/ pid file exists # 2 - service dead, but /var/lock/ lock file exists # 3 - service not running

# NOTE: checkproc returns LSB compliant status values. checkproc $CUPSD_BIN rc_status -v ;;

So... I think it should be running, but it wouldn't hurt to check if it is really so.

that's why I always advise using: $ ps -ef | grep command_name -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hello, I would like to change the default KDE desktop for my users. Specially, I would like to add the konsole terminal client to the bottom taskbar. What is the best way of doing this? Sincerely, - Henrik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hello, I realize I can do this, but how do you configure the default desktop to be different -- for any user that logs in? Sincerely, - Henrik -----Original Message----- From: Ken Schneider [mailto:suse-list3@bout-tyme.net] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:03 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Configuring the KDE desktop... Henrik Schmiediche pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

Hello, I would like to change the default KDE desktop for my users. Specially, I would like to add the konsole terminal client to the bottom taskbar. What

is

the best way of doing this?

Sincerely,

- Henrik

You can go through the menu system and right click on the item and select "Add item to main panel", or click and drag it there. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 29 February 2008 20:02:00 Henrik Schmiediche wrote:

Hello, I realize I can do this, but how do you configure the default desktop to be different -- for any user that logs in?

You don't mention what version of suse you're running, so I'll assume kde3 The defaults are held in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/, and the files in there are used if the user hasn't done any local changes. If you want a setting to be the default for all users, make your change to the config files there. For the panel, the config file is kickerrc. To add konsole to it, add something like [ServiceButton_1] DesktopFile[$e]=/opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/konsole.desktop FreeSpace2=0 StorageId[$e]=kde-konsole.desktop Or simply create a new user, configure the panel the way you want it to be, and copy kickerrc from .kde/share/config/ in that user's home directory Be careful though, because kickerrc for some reason also contains "recent application" for the menu. Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Anders Johansson wrote:

On Friday 29 February 2008 20:02:00 Henrik Schmiediche wrote:

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Hello, I realize I can do this, but how do you configure the default desktop to be different -- for any user that logs in?

You don't mention what version of suse you're running, so I'll assume kde3

The defaults are held in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/, and the files in there are used if the user hasn't done any local changes. If you want a setting to be the default for all users, make your change to the config files there.

For the panel, the config file is kickerrc. To add konsole to it, add something like

[ServiceButton_1] DesktopFile[$e]=/opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/konsole.desktop FreeSpace2=0 StorageId[$e]=kde-konsole.desktop

Or simply create a new user, configure the panel the way you want it to be, and copy kickerrc from .kde/share/config/ in that user's home directory

Be careful though, because kickerrc for some reason also contains "recent application" for the menu.

To tell you the truth, I find that functionality to be a useful feature. Perhaps though, a bugreport should be made to KDE to suggest that the "recent applications" list be stored in its own file, so that system-wide changes can be pushed out by an admin without ruining any user's "recent applications" list. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Anders Johansson wrote:

On Friday 29 February 2008 21:56:09 Aaron Kulkis wrote:

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Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Friday 29 February 2008 20:02:00 Henrik Schmiediche wrote:

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Hello, I realize I can do this, but how do you configure the default desktop to be different -- for any user that logs in?

You don't mention what version of suse you're running, so I'll assume kde3

The defaults are held in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/, and the files in there are used if the user hasn't done any local changes. If you want a setting to be the default for all users, make your change to the config files there.

For the panel, the config file is kickerrc. To add konsole to it, add something like

[ServiceButton_1] DesktopFile[$e]=/opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/konsole.desktop FreeSpace2=0 StorageId[$e]=kde-konsole.desktop

Or simply create a new user, configure the panel the way you want it to be, and copy kickerrc from .kde/share/config/ in that user's home directory

Be careful though, because kickerrc for some reason also contains "recent application" for the menu. To tell you the truth, I find that functionality to be a useful feature.

So do I, but I don't think an admin wants his own recent apps to be shown in all users' menus

Very true.

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Perhaps though, a bugreport should be made to KDE to suggest that the "recent applications" list be stored in its own file, so that system-wide changes can be pushed out by an admin without ruining any user's "recent applications" list.

Perhaps, but I would prefer an actual tool for setting system wide defaults.

That would be a good solution, too. A system-wide configuration, comparable to files like: /etc/bash.bashrc /etc/csh.login /etc/csh.cshrc /etc/ksh.kshrc /etc/profile

There is the kiosk tool for enabling or disabling features, but I'm not aware of anything for configuring them

Perhaps it will come in KDE4.1

Now go and change that silly email address

To what? All the "normal" addresses I had have been banished by Henne -- which was my whole reason for inventing this one.

Anders

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Anders Johansson wrote:

On Friday 29 February 2008 22:08:32 Aaron Kulkis wrote:

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Perhaps, but I would prefer an actual tool for setting system

wide defaults.

That would be a good solution, too.

A system-wide configuration, comparable to files like:

/etc/bash.bashrc /etc/csh.login /etc/csh.cshrc /etc/ksh.kshrc /etc/profile

Well, the files are already there. Settings in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config will be used if there is nothing in the user's own home directory. So if you don't have your own kickerrc, the one in the global directory will be used

And if you do have a kickerrc, but don't have a particular variable configured that is configured in the global version of the file, it will be picked up from there.

Does KDE read /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/kickerrc before reading ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc? What if the same variable is set in both places? Does the the kickerrc in the user's kickerrc override the setting in the system kickerrc? Is there a way for the system admin to "lock" a variable so that users can't change it? (My guess is no, since that tends to violate the whole spirit of both Unix, and of Linux even more.)

So the system is in place. What I want is a nicer way of using it

I think I'll file a feature request

That sounds like a good idea. Either that, or there's a way of manipulating it for your purpose that we haven't figured out.

Anders

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Now go and change that silly email address

To what?

All the "normal" addresses I had have been banished by Henne -- which was my whole reason for inventing this one.

All right, I'll talk to him on Monday But you have to stop those silly comments. Telling a guy that his wife needs to get laid does not belong on a technical list, and I'm convinced that you know that. It's why we have the offtopic list, where (almost) anything goes In the mean time, could you at least configure your "real name" setting to something less silly? Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Henrik Schmiediche wrote:

Hello, I would like to change the default KDE desktop for my users. Specially, I would like to add the konsole terminal client to the bottom taskbar. What is the best way of doing this?

Simply drag the icon from the menu list to the task bar.....move it to left or right ends where you want it. Fred -- "Security" in Windows comes from patching a sieve. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 17 February 2008 05:06:38 pm Tom Patton wrote:

On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 15:07 +0100, Michele wrote:

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On Saturday 16 February 2008 10:23:30 pm Don Raboud wrote:

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On Saturday 16 February 2008 09:57, Michele wrote:

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Hi all,

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Try the ip address directly?

http://127.0.0.1:631

-- Don

No way, no valid ip works ...

If you have lynx installed, try (from a terminal) "lynx 127.0.0.1:631"

You may get a more informative error than simply "not found".

Tom in NM

nothing more than "Not Found" with lynx, unfortunately -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 19 February 2008 10:34:41 am Johannes Meixner wrote:

Hello,

On Feb 16 17:57 Michele wrote (shortened):

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I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos...

How "bare" is it really? Was it perhaps an update from an older SUSE Linux version?

It is a opensuse 10.3 fresh install, in fact.

If this doesn't help, try http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_-_Reinstalling_the_Printing_System

Success ! This manual reinstall procedure suggested above resolved the problem. Now my printing system works. Also I would suggest to change the page "SDB:CUPS - Reinstalling the Printing System" (the link above) line 2: Version: 9.1 to: Version: 9.1, this has been reported to work also on an opensuse 10.3. or to indicate somehow that is not so specific for suse 9.1, and may work in other versions too Thanks to all you !!! Michele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org