On 2024-03-27 12:55, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

Le 27/03/2024 à 12:47, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

(crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030.

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<0.4> 2024-03-27T11:19:01.689447+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 12.131326][ T1100] xfs filesystem being mounted at /opt supports timestamps until 2038 (0x7fffffff)

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Do we have a recommended procedure for this?

wait and see :-), you have at least 6 years to think about it :--)

Nah... :-) I'm contemplating backup-format-restore of those partitions, on several computers. But I do not know if the xfs tools in Leap support whatever new format should be used. YaST I guess doesn't. What about the kernel? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 2024-03-27 13:28, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 3:23 PM Carlos E.R. via openSUSE Users wrote:

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But I do not know if the xfs tools in Leap support whatever new format should be used.

Why do not you read SLE 15 release notes?

Because I do not know about them? I read the upgrade notes on Leap, but not on SLE. I googled "SLE 15 release notes" and found: https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/15-SP5/index.html No mention of XFS formatting. https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/15/index.html I can't find anything What link do you have in mind? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 4:04 PM Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 3:41 PM Carlos E. R. wrote:

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What link do you have in mind?

Sorry, it was upgrade guide.

https://documentation.suse.com/sles/15-SP5/html/SLES-all/cha-upgrade-finish....

Actually, it was in release notes. This format has existed for almost 10 years. https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/index.html#fate-317042 I guess Leap 42 release notes are no more available.

On 2024-03-27 18:17, Yamaban via openSUSE Users wrote:

On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:09, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

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On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 4:04 PM Andrei Borzenkov <> wrote:

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On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 3:41 PM Carlos E. R. <> wrote:

1. Thanks for the link to the notes. 2. Hmm, just checked a drive that was formatted using Leap 42.1       (Kernel 4.1.39 , xfsprogs-3.2.1) and       xfs_info /mnt/point showed a "crc=1"

... so, safe if done in Leap 42.1 with std-options, but, for safety, check yourself with "xfs_info"

Telcontar:~ # xfs_info /data/storage_d meta-data=/dev/sdd2 isize=512 agcount=4, agsize=52188544 blks = sectsz=4096 attr=2, projid32bit=1 = crc=1 finobt=1, sparse=0, rmapbt=0 = reflink=0 bigtime=0 inobtcount=0 data = bsize=4096 blocks=208754176, imaxpct=25 = sunit=0 swidth=0 blks naming =version 2 bsize=4096 ascii-ci=0, ftype=1 log =internal log bsize=4096 blocks=101930, version=2 = sectsz=4096 sunit=1 blks, lazy-count=1 realtime =none extsz=4096 blocks=0, rtextents=0 Telcontar:~ # Telcontar:~ # mount | grep sdb8 /dev/sdb8 on /opt type xfs (rw,relatime,lazytime,attr2,inode64,logbufs=8,logbsize=32k,noquota) Telcontar:~ # xfs_info /opt meta-data=/dev/sdb8 isize=256 agcount=4, agsize=3276800 blks = sectsz=4096 attr=2, projid32bit=1 = crc=0 finobt=0, sparse=0, rmapbt=0 = reflink=0 bigtime=0 inobtcount=0 data = bsize=4096 blocks=13107200, imaxpct=25 = sunit=0 swidth=0 blks naming =version 2 bsize=4096 ascii-ci=0, ftype=1 log =internal log bsize=4096 blocks=6400, version=2 = sectsz=4096 sunit=1 blks, lazy-count=1 realtime =none extsz=4096 blocks=0, rtextents=0 Telcontar:~ # This partition gives the version 4 warning. xfs_info doesn't say what version it is using, but I know it is 4. Telcontar:~ # grep "Deprecated V4" /var/log/warn <0.4> 2023-08-09T23:54:05.858298+02:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 11.584915][ T1142] XFS (sdc8): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2023-12-13T04:15:30.337516+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 11.250603][ T1059] XFS (sda10): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2023-12-13T13:10:15.410983+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 10.513382][ T1073] XFS (sdb8): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2023-12-20T22:18:22.495699+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 11.637413][ T1066] XFS (sdb8): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2023-12-29T23:20:35.475089+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 11.837265][ T1083] XFS (sdc8): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2024-01-26T11:58:33.963723+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 11.752832][ T1115] XFS (sdc10): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2024-02-12T19:15:28.139196+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 9.897363][ T1019] XFS (sdb8): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2024-02-17T21:10:32.092171+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 11.582762][ T1076] XFS (sdb8): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2024-02-24T10:34:45.677307+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 190.898317][ T1053] XFS (sda10): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2024-02-24T11:04:31.281400+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 11.617573][ T1076] XFS (sdb8): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2024-03-13T13:02:00.975016+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 10.040215][ T1050] XFS (sdb10): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2024-03-27T10:58:37.676126+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 171.787325][ T1088] XFS (sdb10): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. <0.4> 2024-03-27T11:19:01.689443+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 11.776572][ T1100] XFS (sdb8): Deprecated V4 format (crc=0) will not be supported after September 2030. Telcontar:~ # mount | grep storage_d /dev/sdd2 on /data/storage_d type xfs (rw,relatime,lazytime,attr2,inode64,logbufs=8,logbsize=32k,noquota) Telcontar:~ # Laicolasse:~ # xfs_info /home meta-data=/dev/mapper/cr-auto-3 isize=512 agcount=4, agsize=46976064 blks = sectsz=512 attr=2, projid32bit=1 = crc=1 finobt=1, sparse=1, rmapbt=0 = reflink=0 bigtime=0 inobtcount=0 data = bsize=4096 blocks=187904256, imaxpct=25 = sunit=0 swidth=0 blks naming =version 2 bsize=4096 ascii-ci=0, ftype=1 log =internal log bsize=4096 blocks=91750, version=2 = sectsz=512 sunit=0 blks, lazy-count=1 realtime =none extsz=4096 blocks=0, rtextents=0 Laicolasse:~ # This one started life with Leap 15.5, purchased on 2023-03. Does not print the "Deprecated V4" warning. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 2024-03-27 a las 19:51 +0100, Carlos E. R. escribió:

On Wednesday, 2024-03-27 at 19:38 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2024-03-27 18:17, Yamaban via openSUSE Users wrote:

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:09, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

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On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 4:04 PM Andrei Borzenkov <> wrote:

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On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 3:41 PM Carlos E. R. <> wrote:

According to this, partition /data/storage_d is fine. But it is not, the log also says:

<0.4> 2024-03-27T11:19:01.689438+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 11.438732][ T1003] xfs filesystem being mounted at /data/storage_d supports timestamps until 2038 (0x7fffffff)

So, I want to correct this, which is not mentioned in the notes I have read so far.

Yeah, ok, there is a over decade till then, but till then I will see noise in the /var/log/war log which I don't want to see.

Apparently, a kernel newer than v5.10 and mkfs.xfs ≥ 5.15 are needed. Telcontar:~ # rpm -qf /sbin/mkfs.xfs xfsprogs-5.13.0-150400.3.3.1.x86_64 Telcontar:~ # uname -a Linux Telcontar 5.14.21-150500.55.52-default #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Mar 5 16:53:41 UTC 2024 (a62851f) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Telcontar:~ # So Leap 15.5 can do nothing about it. What about 15.6? I see both xfsprogs-5.13.0-150400.3.3.1.x86_64.rpm and xfsprogs-6.5.0-150600.1.1.x86_64.rpm in http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.6/repo/oss/x86_64/ references: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1302943/xfs-filesystem-being-mounted-at-disk... To convert an existing filesystem (must be unmounted) do: xfs_admin -O bigtime=1 device https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=6249842#post624984... mkfs.xfs -m bigtime=1 /dev/... - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCZgRwVRwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVDrUAn0eWqE9h/97E6f2yZoJF 4/xP6ZwhAJ4tJtQtPpbnZlSy9K1+6JK5QHpjXg== =vRyc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On 3/27/24 17:03, Dave Howorth wrote:

To see the filesystem type:

$ dmesg | grep XFS [3998749.588836] XFS (sda3): Mounting V5 Filesystem ...snip other stuff... $

I'm also seeing V5.

On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 19:51, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:

On Wednesday, 2024-03-27 at 19:38 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2024-03-27 18:17, Yamaban via openSUSE Users wrote:

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:09, Andrei Borzenkov <> wrote:

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On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 4:04 PM Andrei Borzenkov <> wrote:

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On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 3:41 PM Carlos E. R. <> wrote:

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1. Thanks for the link to the notes. 2. Hmm, just checked a drive that was formatted using Leap 42.1       (Kernel 4.1.39 , xfsprogs-3.2.1) and       xfs_info /mnt/point showed a "crc=1"

... so, safe if done in Leap 42.1 with std-options, but, for safety, check yourself with "xfs_info"

Telcontar:~ # xfs_info /data/storage_d meta-data=/dev/sdd2 isize=512 agcount=4, agsize=52188544 blks = sectsz=4096 attr=2, projid32bit=1 = crc=1 finobt=1, sparse=0, rmapbt=0 = reflink=0 bigtime=0 inobtcount=0 data = bsize=4096 blocks=208754176, imaxpct=25 = sunit=0 swidth=0 blks naming =version 2 bsize=4096 ascii-ci=0, ftype=1 log =internal log bsize=4096 blocks=101930, version=2 = sectsz=4096 sunit=1 blks, lazy-count=1 realtime =none extsz=4096 blocks=0, rtextents=0 Telcontar:~ #

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According to this, partition /data/storage_d is fine. But it is not, the log also says:

<0.4> 2024-03-27T11:19:01.689438+01:00 Telcontar kernel - - - [ 11.438732][ T1003] xfs filesystem being mounted at /data/storage_d supports timestamps until 2038 (0x7fffffff)

So, I want to correct this, which is not mentioned in the notes I have read so far.

Yeah, ok, there is a over decade till then, but till then I will see noise in the /var/log/war log which I don't want to see.

to quote from your own xfs_info call for /data/storage_d: ... bigtime=0 THAT is the cause of the "timestamps until 2038" noise. - Yamaban.

On 2024-03-27 14:09, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 4:04 PM Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

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On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 3:41 PM Carlos E. R. wrote:

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What link do you have in mind?

Sorry, it was upgrade guide.

https://documentation.suse.com/sles/15-SP5/html/SLES-all/cha-upgrade-finish....

Actually, it was in release notes. This format has existed for almost 10 years.

Ah! mkfs.xfs -m crc=1 DEVICE

https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/index.html#fate-317042

I guess Leap 42 release notes are no more available.

This one says: If you require interoperability of the XFS file system with older or other distributions, format the filesystem manually using the mkfs.xfs command. That will create a filesystem in the old format unless you use the "-m crc=1" option. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)