On Wednesday 13 December 2006 15:03, Malte Gell wrote:

On Tuesday 12 December 2006 22:08, James Knott wrote:

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Now that OpenOffice v2.1 has been released, are there any plans for a Novell version to follow?

There are packages with newer versions of OOorg for SUSE Linux, but these packages are not officially supported, use at your own risk: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/OpenOffice.org/

I stick with the version that came with SUSE 10.0 since I don´t need the newer features.

Having Impress useing the two screens for presentations is really, really important, as you can use you screen for notes and time check while the other is for the presentation itself. This reason is enough for me alone to upgrade (unless Novell has backported that feature into openSUSE's OpenOffice 2.0.4, must check this out). However, there are still no packages of OpenOffice 2.1 on the given location. Hugo Costelha -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 13 December 2006 06:03, Malte Gell wrote:

There are packages with newer versions of OOorg for SUSE Linux, but these packages are not officially supported, use at your own risk: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/OpenOffice.org/

Er, question: At who's risk do I use the Officially Supported OOorg packages? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

Grammar pedant mode engaged.

Your's

Yours. -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://repos.opensuse.org/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 14 December 2006 07:44, Hugo Costelha wrote:

On Thursday 14 December 2006 14:01, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* John Andersen [12-14-06 02:26]:

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Er, question: At who's risk do I use the Officially Supported OOorg packages?

If you buy the boxed set you have 90-day installation support. If you go to enterprise editions you get even mor broader support.

Hugo

I did buy the boxed set, but if YOU buy the boxed set you will see there there is no meaningful support for OOorg packages therein. I just found it odd the the person I responded to seemed to be suggesting that using the factory/beta packages were somehow at my OWN risk, as if there was any indemnification if I used the SUSE official packages. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

Malte Gell wrote:

On Tuesday 12 December 2006 22:08, James Knott wrote:

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Now that OpenOffice v2.1 has been released, are there any plans for a Novell version to follow?

There are packages with newer versions of OOorg for SUSE Linux, but these packages are not officially supported, use at your own risk: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/OpenOffice.org/

I stick with the version that came with SUSE 10.0 since I don´t need the newer features.

Well you really do need the "new features" because OO 2.1 fixes a security hole. Download the tar.gz file from OO.org itself then unpack it. It is all RPMs which you then install (together with the SuSE oriented file in desktop-integration sub-directory) using "rpm -i *.rpm". But unistall the earlier version of OO before doing so. I've just installed 2.1 in Suse 10.2 without any drama. Cheers. -- Hydrophobia, n: the fear of fire hydrants. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Peter Bradley wrote:

Ysgrifennodd Basil Chupin:

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Well you really do need the "new features" because OO 2.1 fixes a security hole.

Download the tar.gz file from OO.org itself then unpack it. It is all RPMs which you then install (together with the SuSE oriented file in desktop-integration sub-directory) using "rpm -i *.rpm". But unistall the earlier version of OO before doing so.

I've just installed 2.1 in Suse 10.2 without any drama.

Cheers.

I think YOU does that. Mine says build 2.0.0.1, which I believe is that build that closes the WMF and other exploits. Apologies if you had something else in mind. Once again I'm late to the conversation so could be misunderstanding.

No, YOU won't help here because Suse hasn't yet cobbled together version 2.1 which is why you need to download 2.1 from OpenOffice.org itself. Cheers. -- Hydrophobia, n: the fear of fire hydrants. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 12:58:32AM +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Peter Bradley wrote:

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Ysgrifennodd Basil Chupin:

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Well you really do need the "new features" because OO 2.1 fixes a security hole.

Download the tar.gz file from OO.org itself then unpack it. It is all RPMs which you then install (together with the SuSE oriented file in desktop-integration sub-directory) using "rpm -i *.rpm". But unistall the earlier version of OO before doing so.

I've just installed 2.1 in Suse 10.2 without any drama.

Cheers.

I think YOU does that. Mine says build 2.0.0.1, which I believe is that build that closes the WMF and other exploits. Apologies if you had something else in mind. Once again I'm late to the conversation so could be misunderstanding. No, YOU won't help here because Suse hasn't yet cobbled together version 2.1 which is why you need to download 2.1 from OpenOffice.org itself.

The security bug however is fixed.... In case you are worrying about it.

Ah OK, so it was plugged up in 2.0.4-38.1.13 released on 9 Jan? Cheers. -- Hydrophobia, n: the fear of fire hydrants. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carl Hartung wrote:

On Thu January 11 2007 08:08, Basil Chupin wrote:

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I've just installed 2.1 in Suse 10.2 without any drama.

Hi Basil,

I've done as you described and my 10.2 OOo menu entries disappeared. I'd have thought the included SUSE desktop integration package would've dealt with that. How about you?

Well mine "disappeared" when I installed the earlier version from OO some many months ago but the original icon from the 10.2 install remained and all I did was to alter the Properties>Application to be able to boot the part I most often use (the word processor). For the latest install (2.1) I changed this to 'openoffice.org-2.1 -writer %U'. All the bits are shown of course under Office in the main 'geecko'>Applications>Office menu and you can bring them to the desktop (just like in Windows) by right-clicking on each part and sending it to the desktop. But, yes, the intergrated icon disappears it seems but as this doesn't bother me I didn't try and see if there is a way to create it. (I think the integrated icon had 'oofromteplate' in the Application entry under Properties.) When SUSE releases its version of 2.1 then it shouldn't be a big problem to uninstall this one from OO -- if one thinks it is all that important to have this integrated icon, that is. Cheers. -- Hydrophobia, n: the fear of fire hydrants. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 10:01 -0500, Carl Hartung wrote:

On Thu January 11 2007 09:48, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Well mine "disappeared" when I installed the earlier version from OO some many months ago but the original icon from the 10.2 install remained...

Thanks, Basil. I'd already created a new launcher but was curious if your experience was the same.

Carl

On the OO2.1 topic; I see the non anti-aliased font rendering is still broken (renders Tahoma almost unreadable). Is this a OO or OpenSuse problem? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 02:22 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

Hans van der Merwe wrote:

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On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 10:01 -0500, Carl Hartung wrote:

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On Thu January 11 2007 09:48, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Well mine "disappeared" when I installed the earlier version from OO some many months ago but the original icon from the 10.2 install remained... Thanks, Basil. I'd already created a new launcher but was curious if your experience was the same.

Carl

On the OO2.1 topic; I see the non anti-aliased font rendering is still broken (renders Tahoma almost unreadable).

Is this a OO or OpenSuse problem?

Just tried using Tahoma in a test document and found no problems with this font.

Do you have Geecko>Configure Desktop>Appearance>Fonts>Use Anti-aliasing>Configure>Use Sub-pixel hinting set to Medium?

Cheers.

I have all that setup - my desktop and ALL other apps display fine (Tahoma 8pt anti-aliasing off - till up to 12pt) Just OO displays horribly with anti-aliasing turned off in its configuration. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 02:52 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

Hans van der Merwe wrote:

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On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 02:22 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 10:01 -0500, Carl Hartung wrote:

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On Thu January 11 2007 09:48, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Well mine "disappeared" when I installed the earlier version from OO some many months ago but the original icon from the 10.2 install remained... Thanks, Basil. I'd already created a new launcher but was curious if your experience was the same.

Carl

On the OO2.1 topic; I see the non anti-aliased font rendering is still broken (renders Tahoma almost unreadable).

Is this a OO or OpenSuse problem? Just tried using Tahoma in a test document and found no problems with

Hans van der Merwe wrote: this font.

Do you have Geecko>Configure Desktop>Appearance>Fonts>Use Anti-aliasing>Configure>Use Sub-pixel hinting set to Medium?

Cheers.

I have all that setup - my desktop and ALL other apps display fine (Tahoma 8pt anti-aliasing off - till up to 12pt) Just OO displays horribly with anti-aliasing turned off in its configuration.

Certainly turning off anti-aliasing in OO has some effect (you can see it immediately in the toolbar) but the Tahoma font is still very much readable and not as you describe (above).

Cheers.

Ok unreadable is prop bit harsh - but as you say turning off anti-aliasing in OO and using Tahoma for the menus (like I do for all my other apps) just looks horrible. I see there are others with the same issue: http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:Optimal_Use_of_MS_TrueType_Core_Fonts_for_a_KDE_... check the last post message. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 00:24 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

Hans van der Merwe wrote:

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On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 02:52 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Hans van der Merwe wrote:

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On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 02:22 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 10:01 -0500, Carl Hartung wrote: > On Thu January 11 2007 09:48, Basil Chupin wrote: >> Well mine "disappeared" when I installed the earlier version from OO >> some many months ago but the original icon from the 10.2 install >> remained... > Thanks, Basil. I'd already created a new launcher but was curious if your > experience was the same. > > Carl On the OO2.1 topic; I see the non anti-aliased font rendering is still broken (renders Tahoma almost unreadable).

Is this a OO or OpenSuse problem? Just tried using Tahoma in a test document and found no problems with

Hans van der Merwe wrote: this font.

Do you have Geecko>Configure Desktop>Appearance>Fonts>Use Anti-aliasing>Configure>Use Sub-pixel hinting set to Medium?

Cheers. I have all that setup - my desktop and ALL other apps display fine (Tahoma 8pt anti-aliasing off - till up to 12pt) Just OO displays horribly with anti-aliasing turned off in its configuration. Certainly turning off anti-aliasing in OO has some effect (you can see it immediately in the toolbar) but the Tahoma font is still very much readable and not as you describe (above).

Cheers.

Ok unreadable is prop bit harsh - but as you say turning off anti-aliasing in OO and using Tahoma for the menus (like I do for all my other apps) just looks horrible. I see there are others with the same issue: http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:Optimal_Use_of_MS_TrueType_Core_Fonts_for_a_KDE_... check the last post message.

I have to ask this question otherwise I won't be able to sleep......

*Why* do you find it necessary to turn off anti-aliasing in OO and then worry about the Tahoma - and not any other font - not displaying well?

"If it hurts why do it?", as the Actress said to the Bishop.

Why not leave the anti-aliasing on, by default, in OO and have a relaxing day?

There has to be reason for all this worrying about Tahoma and OO and anti-aliasing but I don't know what it is so please enlighten me :-) .

Cheers.

My whole system uses Tahoma for menus, dialogs, text boxes etc. It renders beautifully crisp on my 1920x1400 Dell laptop screen. (One thing MS got right) Anti-aliasing is only useful if the font is huge or you use a CRT (IMHO). And... it was working in 10.0. Im trying to find a solution here! not be stuck with something I cant change or dont like (for that I'll revert back to Win) E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org