* Andreas Hanke [08-21-06 10:55]:

Patrick Shanahan schrieb:

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09:25 wahoo:~ # rpm -hiv http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/rpm/packages/System/smart/smart-0.42-8.g... Retrieving http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/rpm/packages/System/smart/smart-0.42-8.g... Preparing... ########################################### [100%] package smart-0.42-8.guru.suse101 is intended for a x86_64 architecture

What's the output of these commands:

rpm -q --queryformat '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm

rpm --showrc | head

rpm --eval '%_arch'

rpm --eval '%_target_cpu'

rpm -V rpm

14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm -q --queryformat '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586 rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64 14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm --showrc | head ARCHITECTURE AND OS: build arch : i586 compatible build archs: athlon i686 i586 i486 i386 noarch fat build os : Linux compatible build os's : Linux install arch : athlon install os : Linux compatible archs : athlon i686 i586 i486 i386 noarch fat compatible os's : Linux 14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm --eval '%_arch' i386 14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm --eval '%_target_cpu' i586 14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm -V rpm S.5....T /bin/rpm .......T /etc/init.d/rpmconfigcheck .......T /usr/bin/gendiff S.5....T /usr/bin/rpm2cpio S.5....T /usr/bin/rpmgraph .......T /usr/lib/rpm/Specfile.pm .......T /usr/lib/rpm/brp-compress .......T /usr/lib/rpm/brp-java-gcjcompile .......T /usr/lib/rpm/brp-lib64-linux .......T /usr/lib/rpm/brp-python-bytecompile .......T /usr/lib/rpm/brp-redhat .......T /usr/lib/rpm/brp-sparc64-linux .......T /usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip .......T /usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip-comment-note .......T /usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip-shared .......T /usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip-static-archive .......T /usr/lib/rpm/brp-symlink .......T /usr/lib/rpm/check-files .......T /usr/lib/rpm/check-prereqs .......T /usr/lib/rpm/config.guess .......T /usr/lib/rpm/config.site .......T /usr/lib/rpm/config.sub S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/convertdb1 .......T /usr/lib/rpm/convertrpmrc.sh .......T /usr/lib/rpm/cross-build S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/debugedit .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-debuginfo.sh .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-lang.sh .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-prov.pl .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-provides .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-provides.ksyms .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-provides.perl .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-req.pl .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires.ksyms .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires.perl .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-supplements .......T /usr/lib/rpm/find-supplements.ksyms .......T /usr/lib/rpm/freshen.sh .......T /usr/lib/rpm/get_magic.pl .......T /usr/lib/rpm/getpo.sh .......T /usr/lib/rpm/http.req S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/javadeps S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/macros .......T /usr/lib/rpm/magic .......T /usr/lib/rpm/magic.mgc .......T /usr/lib/rpm/magic.mime .......T /usr/lib/rpm/magic.mime.mgc .......T /usr/lib/rpm/magic.prov .......T /usr/lib/rpm/magic.req .......T /usr/lib/rpm/mkinstalldirs S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/noarch-linux/macros .......T /usr/lib/rpm/perl.prov .......T /usr/lib/rpm/perl.req .......T /usr/lib/rpm/perldeps.pl S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/permlist .......T /usr/lib/rpm/pythondeps.sh .......T /usr/lib/rpm/rpm.daily .......T /usr/lib/rpm/rpm.log .......T /usr/lib/rpm/rpm.xinetd .......T /usr/lib/rpm/rpm2cpio.sh S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmb S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmcache S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmd S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb_archive S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb_checkpoint S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb_deadlock S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb_dump S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb_load .......T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb_loadcvt S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb_printlog S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb_recover S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb_stat S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb_upgrade S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdb_verify S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdeps .......T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdiff .......T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdiff.cgi S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmfile S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmi S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmk .......T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmpopt-4.4.2 S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmq S.5....T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmqpack .......T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc .......T /usr/lib/rpm/rpmsort .......T /usr/lib/rpm/sql.prov .......T /usr/lib/rpm/sql.req .......T /usr/lib/rpm/suse_macros .......T /usr/lib/rpm/symset-table .......T /usr/lib/rpm/tcl.req .......T /usr/lib/rpm/tgpg .......T /usr/lib/rpm/trpm .......T /usr/lib/rpm/u_pkg.sh .......T /usr/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides.sh .......T /usr/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides2.sh .......T /usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/is/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/sk/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/sr/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo .......T d /usr/share/man/man1/gendiff.1.gz .......T d /usr/share/man/man8/rpm.8.gz .......T d /usr/share/man/man8/rpm2cpio.8.gz .......T d /usr/share/man/man8/rpmbuild.8.gz .......T d /usr/share/man/man8/rpmcache.8.gz .......T d /usr/share/man/man8/rpmdeps.8.gz .......T d /usr/share/man/man8/rpmgraph.8.gz .......T d /usr/share/man/man8/rpmqpack.8.gz .......T /var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.services-rpm OK, I see some inconsistancies. What caused the changes to non x86_64. I have designated x86_64 *everywhere* there was a choice??? tks, -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Michael Schroeder [08-21-06 14:32]:

Ah, a user of 'smart'. Smart automatically installs all architectures it can find for a package, effectively breaking them. Please deinstall 'rpm.i586' and reinstall 'rpm.x86_64'.

tks, will report back. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 22 August 2006 09:47, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Ah, a user of 'smart'. Smart automatically installs all architectures it can find for a package, effectively breaking them. Please deinstall 'rpm.i586' and reinstall 'rpm.x86_64'.

FALSE! You are mixing up yum with smart!

AFAIK installing packages of different architectures must be allowed. If things break due to this, it's the contents of the packages that are broken and not the package manager.. -- // Janne --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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If things break due to this, it's the contents of the packages that are broken and not the package manager..

I really wonder how it could happen that both architectures were installed. smart does _not_ do that automagically.

smart installs i686 pkgs on i586, which is more or less connected. Jan Engelhardt -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 02:40:24PM +0300, Janne Karhunen wrote:

On Tuesday 22 August 2006 13:15, Andreas Hanke wrote:

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AFAIK installing packages of different architectures must be allowed.

Why "must"?

x86-64 boxes still need 32bit software (flash, video codecs et al). And I take it this is the way things are going to be for long, long time. There will always be some commercial shonk that has not been ported to x86-64.

Note that we use (unlike e.g. fedora) different names for the 32bit packages. It is always an error on SUSE to install two packages with the same name and different architecture. Cheers, Michael. -- Michael Schroeder mls@suse.de main(_){while(_=~getchar())putchar(~_-1/(~(_|32)/13*2-11)*13);} --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 22 August 2006 14:50, Andreas Hanke wrote:

Installing kdebase3.i586 on x86_64 systems in order to get a 32bit konqueror is plain wrong and unnecessary. Install kdebase3-nsplugin.i586 instead. That one doesn't collide with anything. konqueror itself does not need to be 32bit in order to support 32bit plugins!

OK, having played with Gnome I almost forgot that we're talking about sane architecture here ;). But hey, thanks. -- // Janne --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Hanke schrieb:

Usually I'd say "uninstall both versions and reinstall the desired one", but reinstalling rpm with rpm will be tricky.

's/rpm with rpm/rpm without rpm/' --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Patrick Shanahan [08-21-06 15:00]:

* Andreas Hanke [08-21-06 14:40]:

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Andreas Hanke schrieb:

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Usually I'd say "uninstall both versions and reinstall the desired one", but reinstalling rpm with rpm will be tricky.

's/rpm with rpm/rpm without rpm/'

yes, I have reached that problem. What next, manually copy files from midnight commander to the correct locations ??

and this does not work, probably mc uses rpm for access ?? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan schrieb:

made simlinks from: /usr/lib64/librpm-4.4.so /usr/lib64/librpmbuild-4.4.so /usr/lib64/librpmdb-4.4.so /usr/lib64/librpmio-4.4.so

to: /usr/lib/librpm-4.4.so /usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.4.so /usr/lib/librpmdb-4.4.so /usr/lib/librpmio-4.4.so

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Hi, On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Andreas Hanke [08-21-06 14:40]:

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Andreas Hanke schrieb:

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Usually I'd say "uninstall both versions and reinstall the desired one", but reinstalling rpm with rpm will be tricky.

's/rpm with rpm/rpm without rpm/'

yes, I have reached that problem. What next, manually copy files from midnight commander to the correct locations ??

rpm -e --justdb <i386 version> rpm -Uhv Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hi, Patrick Shanahan schrieb:

yes, I have reached that problem. What next, manually copy files from midnight commander to the correct locations ??

Now you have basically two choices: 1. Use a program or script that can unpack RPMs without using rpm. 2. Use the rescue system. Try 1. first. The script is here: http://www.iagora.com/~espel/rpm2cpio Download it, rename it to rpm2cpio.pl (to avoid confusion with the "real" rpm2cpio), copy it to /usr/local/bin and make it exectuable. Now download rpm.x86_64 http://download.uni-hd.de/ftp/pub/linux/suse/update/10.1/rpm/x86_64/rpm-4.4.... and extract it somewhere (preferably an otherwise empty directory): rpm2cpio.pl rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm | cpio -id Now copy the extracted files manually to their location. Important: rpm will probably work again, but copying the files manually will not register rpm itself in the rpm database. So you should rpm-install rpm on top of the manually extracted files: rpm -Uvh rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm And a general hint: Use "rpm -U", not "rpm -i" when installing packages. This might help avoiding double installed packages (-U replaces an existing package which is the right thing in most situations, -i will install a new package in addition to the existing one). If that fails, try 2. Boot into the rescue system, mount your / file system and use rpm -Uvh --root=/mountpoint rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm to reinstall rpm on the rpm-less system. Andreas Hanke --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Andreas Hanke [08-21-06 15:16]:

rpm2cpio.pl rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm | cpio -id

15:47 wahoo:~/work # rpm2cpio.pl ./rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm | cpio -id Error: header not recognized cpio: premature end of archive guess I'll have to go the 'RESCUE' route. be back soon -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 8/21/06, Andreas Hanke wrote:

Patrick Shanahan schrieb:

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15:47 wahoo:~/work # rpm2cpio.pl ./rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm | cpio -id Error: header not recognized cpio: premature end of archive

I know. The script does not work. I should have checked that before.

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guess I'll have to go the 'RESCUE' route.

Not if you can get rpm.x86_64 in a different format from somewhere.

And you can. It's already in your inbox.

OK, thanks. rpm works correctly now, but I have lost myself as user. I cannot log in or access any files. It's like I no longer have permission. I cannot even log onto a console. I went to init 1 and back to three but still cannot login :^( ??? Do I need to reboot (wouldn't think)? To install rpm, I opened the tarball in mc and copied each directory across to the proper locations. Did that screw the system ?? All I can think to do atm, is add a new user and then move my home directory across ?? tks, -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

On 8/21/06, Andreas Hanke wrote:

Try that. I guess that the problem is not caused by a particular account, but by something more general. But try it anyway.

Actually I guess that whatever transaction caused rpm.i586 to be installed screwed up more things than just rpm. Maybe it installed some nice i586 versions of important pam modules... who knows.

Possible, but I did not have the user/login problem before replacing rpm. ???? I have added another user, but still have the same problem. No use copying the home directory as the new user cannot login. I used yast to create the user and the accounts are both enabled. Is there a way to regenerate permissions? Will try rebooting while awaiting an answer. hard working on a wdoz box. Thanks all for vmware :^)...... tks, -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

On 8/21/06, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

On 8/21/06, Andreas Hanke wrote:

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Try that. I guess that the problem is not caused by a particular account, but by something more general. But try it anyway.

Actually I guess that whatever transaction caused rpm.i586 to be installed screwed up more things than just rpm. Maybe it installed some nice i586 versions of important pam modules... who knows.

Possible, but I did not have the user/login problem before replacing rpm. ???? I have added another user, but still have the same problem. No use copying the home directory as the new user cannot login. I used yast to create the user and the accounts are both enabled.

Is there a way to regenerate permissions? Will try rebooting while awaiting an answer.

hard working on a wdoz box. Thanks all for vmware :^)......

AND, of course, rebooting solves nada. will reboot to the install disk and try recovering the user, but am very unfamiliar with the recovery function :^( Pointers, direction, appreciated. tks, -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

On 8/21/06, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

You should see something in /var/log/messages.

attempting to su from root to pat show the attempt but no error or other message other than an attempt nothing shows from attempting logins to X. tks, -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Michael Schroeder [08-21-06 15:27]:

On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:37:51PM +0200, Andreas Hanke wrote:

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Hi,

Patrick Shanahan schrieb:

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14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm -q --queryformat '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586 rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64

Ouch. rpm itself is installed twice, once for i586 and once for x86_64. That's what I suspected...

What you need in the end is that

rpm -q --queryformat '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm

returns exactly

rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64

and that

rpm -V

returns exactly nothing.

How to get there? Difficult. ;)

Doesn't 'rpm -e rpm.i586' work? And don't forget to install the right version of rpm afterwards...

yes, but then rpm does not work. see my recent posts. Trying rpm2cpio at the moment.. tks, -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:47:11PM +0200, Andreas Hanke wrote:

Patrick Shanahan schrieb:

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yes, but then rpm does not work.

I guess that it's because your /bin/rpm is still i586 and you've lost your i586 shared libraries while doing "rpm -e rpm.i586".

Hmm, this should work then: rpm -e rpm.x86_64 and later on 'rpm -hUv rpm-....x86_64.rpm'. Cheers, Michael. -- Michael Schroeder mls@suse.de main(_){while(_=~getchar())putchar(~_-1/(~(_|32)/13*2-11)*13);} --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Marcus Rueckert wrote:

On 2006-08-21 14:22:08 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm -q --queryformat '%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586 rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64

maybe another fuckup due the smart bug. :|

What makes you think smart is the one to blame? Regards Christoph --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org